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Gavros 1:22 Wed Feb 7
'First Briton' was...
....blue eyed.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/first-modern-britons-dark-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-reveals

Discuss.

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gph 2:14 Wed Feb 21
Re: 'First Briton' was...
*waits for someone to denounce the Guardian's picture for making him look dark, even for an African, when the scientists only made him as dark as the African average*

gph 1:34 Wed Feb 21
Re: 'First Briton' was...
"We don't know how he died"

Missed the obvious bullet hole above the right eye, then?

It's a fake.

(Only kidding, here)

gph 1:18 Wed Feb 21
Re: 'First Briton' was...
"Nothing Mike Oxsaw says contradicts the experts who have studied this stuff for years."

Except no expert worth their salt would argue that the way humans behave is irrelevant to the "appropriateness" of skin colour to the environment.

If human beings act in a way that guarantees themselves a decent diet, they don't need to manufacture vitamin D in their skin, and skin colour becomes neutral with regard to Darwinian fitness.


Anyway, the TV version of this is now on 4oD: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-first-brit-the-10000-year-old-man/on-demand/65473-001

Mike Oxsaw 7:21 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Swiss. 6:58 Sun Feb 11

Coming from somebody who's first language clearly isn't English (as witnessed by your response to my post that triggered this phase), I'll treat that with the contempt it's earned.

Go back and complete your formal education - it's never too late.

mashed in maryland 7:15 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Nothing Mike Oxsaw says contradicts the experts who have studied this stuff for years

Hammer and Pickle 7:12 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
... called Abdul, had a Media Studies degree and was a Guardian reader.

Nurse Ratched 7:06 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
*says something right-on*

Swiss. 6:58 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
I just wondered how you know better than the experts who have studied this stuff for years. You come across as an ignorant prick

Mike Oxsaw 6:54 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
If YOU don't know that, then no cunt can help you - you're on your own, which probably where you're at your happiest.

Swiss. 6:48 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
What's my agenda?

Mike Oxsaw 6:13 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Either way, Dawin would have seen to it that those with a skin pigment level more appropriate to the environment prospered, over several generations, better than others.

Tough shit if that happened to be fairer skinned in the Northern European Environment, and that don't suit your agenda.

Nature does as nature is.

mashed in maryland 5:48 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Just seen it was 10,000, not 50,000.

Apologies, point still stands, with a slight tweaking of the maths.

mashed in maryland 5:47 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Gotta remember this is 50,000 years ago.

Predating the oldest known human building by at least 40,000 years, and even the earliest known *structure* (a pile of rocks in Greece) by about 30,000.

Ancient Egyptians were around much later and the consensus is that they were light skinned.

It's most plausible that 50,000 years ago, people across the world looked totally different to people now, the climate was different, the diet and lifestyle would have been unrecognisable, and "races" might well have not even been a thing.

So basically, whatever political viewpoint you're looking at it from; it's totally meaningless.

Darby_ 5:14 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
mike hunt = white negro

Swiss. 4:51 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Racist Mike is upset that he's ancestors are n**gers.

mike hunt 4:30 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
so let me get this straight, because they find ONE creatures remains, it automatically follows that that creature is where we all came from? fucking crock of shit, pure fucking guess work

Swiss. 4:18 Sun Feb 11
Re: 'First Briton' was...
A man of colour?

Hammer and Pickle 3:21 Sat Feb 10
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Maybe they got singed by that comet that extended the last glaciation by the odd thousand years?

gph 3:18 Sat Feb 10
Re: 'First Briton' was...
a) the closest refuges where human life was possible during the ice age were in Portugal and Spain, so they are the most likely origin;
b) DNA evidence - i.e., the famous "Basqueness" of the Welsh, and, to a lesser extent, the rest of the inhabitants of mainland GB.

Not proof, but enough to make it the most likely hypothesis.

Pretty sure QFB has got the wrong glaciation, and probably meant after instead of before.

Mike Oxsaw 3:08 Sat Feb 10
Re: 'First Briton' was...
Spain & Italy formed what became known, in such circles where such things are known, as the proto-EU, therefore, they was the bestest at everything - especially sending their unemployed to the UK..

Willtell 3:03 Sat Feb 10
Re: 'First Briton' was...
My point was really only that how could anyone possibly know that 500,000 years ago Homo Sapiens came from Spain and Italy...?

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