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ironsofcanada 9:46 Wed Mar 14
North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Been developing for a few days but the bigger papers have now done stories.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/right-wing-canadian-activist-lauren-southern-detained-at-calais-and-barred-from-entering-uk-a3787886.html

TL;DR - They came to meet with Tommy Robinson

I specifically have known of Southern's work via some other people for while and I strongly agree with a lot of her rhetoric and stunts but being "refused on policy grounds that their presence in the UK was not conducive to the public good" is a different thing.

For me that is a pretty scary (not to mention inconsistent) stance from an open government.

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riosleftsock 1:14 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Fifth Column 11:49

You make a good point.

I also had never heard of any of them before the last few days. But myself and millions of others do now.

She had a joke "pretend" left wing kiosk handing out leaflets promoting the LGBT intersection with Islam and claiming Allah was also a gay god.

She did this apparently as an exercise/experiment to assimilate a recent similar episode where it was claimed that Jesus was gay.

There can be no good ending to this. It effectively means that UKBA is enforcing medieval blasphemy laws in our country.

Mrkxxx 12:37 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
And yet Tariq Ramadam comes and goes as he pleases and fucking teachers at Oxford..

you couldn't make it the fuck up!

Ronald_antly 11:59 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Golden Oldie 10:32 Wed Mar 14

I know. It was my tongue in cheek way of alluding to the fact that people often refer to them having done so.

For example, "People died for your freedom of speech ..... so SHUT THE FUCK UP!!"

Swiss. 11:55 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
I would.

Fifth Column 11:49 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Rios

I don't think anyone should be allowed in who incites violence or endorses violence. I was using a generic descriptive term, not a legal term.

And I have no idea what these particular people say/do, I've never heard of them. I was commenting generally on the illiberal actions of the state.

riosleftsock 11:38 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
5th

Neither of the girls or Mr Sellner is accused of inciting violence (I assume you meant inciting, rather than endorsing).

Have you sen the "racist literature"? Its fucking hilarious.

Fifth Column 11:36 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
I believe that only people who endorse violence etc should be banned. Whether they're Muslim or white supremacists or whatever. There are too many people banned of different persuasions.

BRANDED 11:36 Wed Mar 14
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Abuse of power is always a twat. Not allowing another twat into the country is fine.
We've been through the hate speach thing. It costs time and money and gets us nowhere.

riosleftsock 11:30 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Branded

The law is not the problem. I posted up a very brief police guidance form their college library.

The law is not being applied correctly and there is a clear abuse of power.

This should concern all of us.

BRANDED 11:28 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
We all love a law that nails our hated ones. They're the very very best laws of all.

harold 11:23 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
She and others like her on YouTube are not Far Right; they just warn of the Islamification of the West, just like me, and I suspect many on here.

riosleftsock 11:22 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
The Home Office has probably scored a massive own goal with this.

Its not just Lauren Southen, its Martin Sellner and Brittany Pettibone as well.

All detained for 3 days.

joey5000 11:20 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Not sure on all of her politics but she is decent.

riosleftsock 11:20 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
"Schedule 7 powers should only be used to counter terrorism and may not be used for any other purpose"

That's form the police college online library.

Comma, I;d be happy if they stopped and questioned every single muslim coming in to this country until islamic terrorism has stopped.

Lauren Southen (I am not a fan of hers in the slightest) is not a threat to our country.

Her "offence" was apparently "distribution of racist material in Luton on Feb 24th" (sic).

Pub Bigot 11:19 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Interesting that they've been stopped under the terrorism act, for precisely what? They were apparently questioned on their religious views and whether they intend to drive on pavements!

The government holding them is only going giving them more attention. As a regular reader and viewer of theirs, none content could be considered extremist in the slightest.

This also ties in with Amber Rudd wanting to make it illegal to read certain content online e.g. Far right or places that push an extreme religious narrative, which would come with a maximum if a 15 year sentence.

I'd like to see how they define what's considered far right, and why they think they are able to interfere with what political content people view.

How long before a point of view is illegal? How long before people like Nick Griffin are locked up? I vehemently disagree with his world view for example, but he should be able to believe what he wants and have a platform to share it.

Golden Oldie 11:13 Wed Mar 14
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, [commie] sneered...
- I've always enjoyed your snide neo-liberal sneering, without once ever proving a solitary word I've written was untrue or wrong

Golden Oldie 11:13 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
I've always enjoyed your snide neo-liberal sneering, without once ever proving a solitary word I've written was untrue or wrong

Vexed 11:12 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
I'm ok with it.

, 11:10 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
Oh dear, a poster being endorsed by GO is surely the kiss of death.

Golden Oldie 11:08 Wed Mar 14
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Nurse Ratched - I wouldn't have even tried to, you don't strike me as being one the dishonest, devious, hypocritical liars here

Nurse Ratched 11:04 Wed Mar 14
Re: North American right-wing activists/journalists banned from UK under terrorism laws.
"Interesting how free speech suddenly matters to those vehemently opposed to any free speech not in accordance with their own..."


Good luck pinning that one on me.

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