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th 1:15 Tue Jul 17
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My son, James Herbert, died in police custody in Yeovil Somerset in 2010, having been detained under Section 136 of the Mental Health Act. He had committed no crime. He was 25 and like me, a lifelong West Ham fan and season ticket holder.

Eight years of campaigning have seen some important changes in the way people with mental health issues are policed. We have been helped by an organisation called INQUEST.

My friend John O'Neill, also a West ham fan, ran a 10k in memory of James in 2013 and raised over £3000 for INQUEST. At 63 years old, he has entered the London Triathlon on August 5th this year and has been in training for over two years. He aims to raise £10,000 for INQUEST, this time running in honour and memory of all those who have lost their lives in State detention or after contact with the police.

I have used an icon of Billy Bonds because that exemplifies John's spirit! He was knocked off his bike when in training last year and badly broke his arm. During his recovery, he bought a print of Billy to inspire him. There were only 18 of John's age group entered the London Triathlon last year out of 2500 entrants.

To find out more and/or to make a donation, please go to www.justgiving.com/fundraising/tri4INQUEST

Thank you for reading this and Come on You Irons. A season to remember please.

Tony Herbert

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Westham67 11:54 Wed Jul 18
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Sorry for your loss mate

Your mum 11:50 Wed Jul 18
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It's disgusting the way mental health is treated in this country, sorry for your loss.

th 11:26 Wed Jul 18
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I am not seeking on here to enter a debate about deaths in custody, only to highlight this appeal for INQUEST. I gave some information about my son to highlight why I consider their work so important, and the reason I am posting on here is that James, John and I are all West Ham. I used to post on here. So did James. I still look on here most days.

Two comments made with donations received

As a Hillsborough family member, I would just like to give my sincerest gratitude to INQUEST for all the work they have undertaken on our behalf. Their work is vital for truth and justice.

and from a police officer who is lead for mental health with the College of Policing.

It's remarkable that a charity has to exist to lobby for families in lieu of them being equally represented in the investigations and processes which should ensure they are central to everything.

INQUEST are currently supporting the Grenfell Tower disaster victims too.

arsene york-hunt 3:39 Wed Jul 18
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I know nothing regarding the the merits of the case of your son and was not commenting on that. I was commenting on a case of which I have first hand knowledge . The outrage of some of the supporters of that man and vitriol directed at the blokes who did the restraint was a disgrace, and was not at all helpful. It later transpired that the restraint position that he was held in, caused his and another man's death. Nobody knew this at the time As I was at this time as a mental health professional carrying out restraint on an almost daily basis, it could have been me on the sharp end of all that abuse.

As I said I know nothing of your son's case and would not wish to comment on it, but would say from what you have written, that these 'experts' who talk about missed chances are only wise when using a retrospectoscope , a very precise instrument, which the police at the time did not have.

th 4:51 Tue Jul 17
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Yes, the deaths are a tragedy for all those involved, and when I speak at police conferences (National conference on mental health and policing last October in Oxford) it is a point I make.

The police involved made errors in the detention of my son, that cost him his life. Those are outlined very well in an IPCC report called "Six Missed Chances" . I have never blamed the police officers involved for what happened but remain hurt and angry about the way that they and the force tried their best to cover it up, something which prevents learning and something that families of all ethnic origins experience in the dozens of cases with which I am familiar.

INQUEST helps me give James a legacy, that his avoidable death prevents others meeting the same fate.

arsene york-hunt 3:45 Tue Jul 17
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Many of the people died when on a S136 because the Police had not been trained in restraint procedures. I know of a case that happened where I worked. The Police concerned were devastated. Then we had the usual rent a mob saying on banners "The Police Murdered *******.", with the ubiquitous accusations of Police racism. The fact that the individual committed no crime is neither here nor there.A S136 is a requirement of Police who suspect that an person may be suffering mental Health issues in a public place to take that person to a place of safety for assessment. Restraint is used both to protect the person and others. These deaths are a tragedy for all concerned.

th 3:02 Tue Jul 17
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Thanks very much. Greatly appreciated.

lab 1:38 Tue Jul 17
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Sad loss. Best wishes ongoing.

Takashi Miike 1:34 Tue Jul 17
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sorry about your loss, all the best for the future

Coffee 1:34 Tue Jul 17
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overbyyer 1:31 Tue Jul 17

overbyyer 1:31 Tue Jul 17
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Hope it goes well. All the best.





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