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Percy Dalton 10:26 Thu Aug 8
Leyton machete attack
Just wanted to comment on the police commander talking about the attack on one of his officers.
That's what a proper copper should look and talk like not one of your pansy lesbian commanders that seem to have overtaken the Met.

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Mike Oxsaw 7:32 Fri Aug 16
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Fifth Column 5:58 Fri Aug 16

It doesn't have to be Brexit - it could be any such situation where somebody gets away with breaking the law and keeps the deeds from that activity; Brexit happened to be the most visible expression of disrespect for the legal side in society.

It could be noticing that house burglars nearly always never get caught (when they do it's so rare it makes the headlines), or the police don't bother too much with a nicked moped. They learn that rules and laws don't HAVE to be respected and it snowballs from there.

As a result, we have a very stabby yoof.

ChillTheKeel 6:22 Fri Aug 16
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Oxsnore brings Brexit into every thread on here. He's as odd as they come.

zico 6:18 Fri Aug 16
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I agree the Brexit thing is a shambles and democracy has gone out of the window on that one but half these kids couldn't even spell Brexit let alone understand what the rights or wrongs of it are. When you hear 20 somethings on reality television come out with dumb comments like believing that Rome is in France then what chance have you got!!!

The problem is these days there seem to be no consequences for your actions. I read today that this year has seen the lowest percentage of criminals being put in jail for many a year. Thugs must be rubbing their hands with glee that the chances of getting caught let alone going to court or prison are slim these days!

Their must be a message set out that states you will not get away with it but it's been too lenient for years. Didn't that thug that killed Philip Laurence the Headmaster years ago get released then arrested again within weeks? It's too soft on criminals, simple as that.

Fifth Column 5:58 Fri Aug 16
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Mike

If you think the average stabby kid in Peckham has a clue about Brexit campaigning and that it influences them being stabby then you've well and truly lost it.

I agree with your final three sentences though.

Mike Oxsaw 5:47 Fri Aug 16
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Fifth Column 5:28 Fri Aug 16

Both are a choice to ignore something that was legally arrived at by the society in which they live - in one case, the vote to leave a political organisation, the other a requirement not to harm others.

It's the observation of seeing one "get away with it" that reinforces the belief that they, to, can get away with it.

In my lifetime, we've lost virtually all the role models from public office that could help kids start off on the right road (as well as having families disintegrate geographically due to the pressures of work).

As has be hinted both on here and other threads, the softly, softly approach that MAY have worked a generation or two ago is failing very badly now; we really need a short, sharp shock to society as a whole to get out of the malaise we're in.

If that doesn't happen, you'll find most of those who could make a difference decide it's not worth the bother, with many fucking off to warmer climes, where, although the grass may not be (much) greener, at least it's allowed to grow.

goose 5:39 Fri Aug 16
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Golden Oldie 4:57 Fri Aug 16
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Import Mogadishu over the course of 70 years in an unprecedented social upheaval not seen since the last civilisational collapse, get surprised society now resembles Mogadishu... before its inevitable collapse

wow

some thing you posted makes actual sense.

Fifth Column 5:28 Fri Aug 16
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Mike

I've stayed out of the dull Brexit arguments on here over two years... but making an analogy between youth stabby crime and people arguing for another referendum is utterly ridiculous.

Even more ridiculous is the idea that stabby youth are choosing to stab people on the basis that they see Remain campaigners arguing for another referendum. Have a word with yourself FFS

Fifth Column 5:26 Fri Aug 16
The copper murdered last night
Was raiding traveller site in investigation of burglaries. Bloke tried to get away by driving car through the copper, dragged him along, killed him.

Mike Oxsaw 5:26 Fri Aug 16
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zico 4:43 Fri Aug 16

Is this really any different from remainers refusing to accept the legal and democratic result of a societal process within which they fully and willingly participated?

As you say, if the kids witness such activities winning out, why the fuck shouldn't they also just cherry-pick the laws, rules & regulations that don't inconvenience them and fuck what other people think?

And, no, before you start. There's NOT a world of difference between the processes of ignoring a referendum result and taking what is not legally yours.

riosleftsock 5:16 Fri Aug 16
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Goldie

Spot on there.

ornchurch ammer 5:15 Fri Aug 16
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Oldie and Zico have pretty much got it covered.

Golden Oldie 4:57 Fri Aug 16
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Import Mogadishu over the course of 70 years in an unprecedented social upheaval not seen since the last civilisational collapse, get surprised society now resembles Mogadishu... before its inevitable collapse

zico 4:43 Fri Aug 16
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There are clearly lots of issues with regard to the explosion of violent crime but half the problem is that if the parents don't give a tioss and the schools aren't allowed to give a toss then how on earth do we expect kids to grow up to give a toss.

Schools aren't allowed to discipline anymore and seemingly neither are parents and a lot of parents now - well you only have to see the state of a lot of them in the shops and ion the street to realise that their kids don't have a chance in learning right and wrong and respect. My old headmaster back in the 80's was ex Borstal and I was terrified of the fella but I liked and respected him. Nowadays he wouldn't last 5 minutes in a school before he himself would be disciplined.

Real punishments need to be brought back for knife and gun crime and I'm talking 10-15 years for possessing a knife and life terms that mean life with even the death penalty brought back. We need discipline back in society rather than this pathetic gently gently don't offend anyone crap.

smartypants 4:20 Fri Aug 16
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You should google the murder stats for London under the previous labour government, it was worse.

threesixty 3:27 Fri Aug 16
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Vexed


As a site of predominantly Tory voting Brexiters it seems a bit ridiculous you moaning about the lack of old bill. This is what you get with a Tory government always has been. You have already been told that it will get even worse when the country has to make more cut backs due to being considerably poorer. Yet you still voted for it. Think about that when your kid has a knife sticking out of their neck won't you?”


Exactly.

The woman they all loved cos she reminded the of thatcher cut 20k officers and they still put her in charge of the country.

The product you ordered has delivered. Why complain now?

Lee Trundle 3:18 Fri Aug 16
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Yeah, it's looking like pikeys.

Toe Rag 3:14 Fri Aug 16
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Mr Anon 3:10 Fri Aug 16

In one!

Mr Anon 3:10 Fri Aug 16
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Ahh so travellers then

1964 3:07 Fri Aug 16
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Berkshire - not East London this time then

Grumpster 2:57 Fri Aug 16
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Just heard a copper was murdered last night.

If the 10 arrested are all guilty, that's another load who should be hung, including the 13 year old.

mashed in maryland 1:15 Sun Aug 11
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Dunno if "more plod = less crime" is such a certainty either.

Bit like "more money = better NHS"

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