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martinbritt_63 8:50 Fri Nov 22
"West Ham is a very difficult club to manage"
Slav in today's Grauniad - all yours gents....

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/nov/22/slaven-bilic-west-brom-west-ham-very-difficult-club

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RBshorty 3:07 Sun Nov 24
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Managing any club is like basic plumbing. “Shit trickles down.” And in our case. We got a whole lot of shit at the top. Look at the so call top teams. Man City and Liverpool have a game plan and very little interference from the top.(Only when it’s necessary.) Then look at the likes of Arsenal and ManU. The board only give a toss about the coin. Then look at us.!

Managing us would be a lot easier if you ain’t got to deal with the SPIVS.

13 Brentford Rd 2:50 Sun Nov 24
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RM10
My point was the move was meant to sort all this shit out, so whilst we are used to the shit as it was normal at Upton Park but it wasn't part of the deal when we moved. They raised expectations as a trade off for the move and then mugged us off.
Now we're still as shit but now we're missing our home and stuck in a souless athletes bowl miles from the pitch with tourists eating popcorn whilst filming the game on their iPads.

13 Brentford Rd 2:38 Sun Nov 24
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The point I believe he is making is the same problem we've faced for decades now.
In London, not as big as Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea but bigger than the rest of the London clubs. This means we attract mostly players who are not quite good enough for the top teams because they are flawed (injury prone, attitude or are big time Charlies)

threesixty 12:47 Sun Nov 24
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It’s a very good article, you should all read it.
He’s making some interesting points about how being a big London club but not internally having a big club mentality has been fucking us up for decades.

Remember we got relegated with possibly the best squad of footballers in world history. Half that team went on to be amazing players and win trophies.

We have an ingrained company culture problem. And people working for the club take advantage of it.

Bilics problem isnt that he can’t manage a team well. He can. He just can’t fix problems when they escalate. Probably because he’s everyone’s mate. Which works when your winning but not when you have to blast those same “mates” for being shit.

Every successful football manager must be ruthless if you want to stay for a long time. He hasn’t ever shown that side sadly.

Also, it seems to take him along time to realise when something is actually wrong. The right back situation eventually got him the sack. Why he couldn’t see that for half a year I do not know.

RM10 12:25 Sun Nov 24
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13 your obsession about the stadium clouds the fact that we were shit at Upton Park for years! We have had bad management through out, yes I miss UP due to the closeness of fans but when we were shit people didn’t go and stayed in the pub/club!!

blueeyed.handsomeman 12:19 Sun Nov 24
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interference and undermining the function of the staff is the way that they are

chedylan 2 12:18 Sun Nov 24
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Let's not forget about bilic's own fucking holiday camp he ran here himself.

13 Brentford Rd 12:12 Sun Nov 24
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He is spot on and I've said it before too.
The Dildo Bros have only made it harder by selling our home and not delivering on their bullshit.

Manuel 5:12 Sun Nov 24
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Yea, next manager should be Bowyer or Parker, once this present clown fucks off. Benitez would be pointless. We are a fucking disgraceful football club and simply a laughing stock. Fuck off.

jfk 4:55 Sun Nov 24
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We are no different to manage than any other sizeable club we as a supporters have been had over by our current owners who took upon themselves to flatten our history for their greed.I don't know any West Ham supporters that wouldn't give their right arm for us stayed put at Upton Park(we should never have believed the bullshit).
We have every right to detest our owners but that's fuck all to do with a good manager taking us In the right direction.All we have ever asked of our players is put in a shift.If we lose so be it.
As Any Old Iron posted earlier I also think we need a British manager with British scouts and go back to grass roots and invest in homegrown youth.
There are loads of brilliant foreign players we've had a few over the years but look at the players yesterday the only ones that showed any kind of commitment were British the likes of Anderson and Yarmalenko done fuck all,they don't give a fuck about pride.
We need a complete rethink we've tried foreign managers buying so called potential superstars and got nowhere.
The last manager to almost bring us a major trophy was Pardew.
Food for thought.

normannomates 4:02 Sun Nov 24
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Don't take a genius like gph to figure it out

Sydney_Iron 6:21 Sat Nov 23
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Slav has a point, just look at the people that run the club, not just G&S but the media unit for example seem more interested in getting the players to prank each other or talk and giggle about there most embarresing moment or favourite food than on the actual playing of football! Cant be helpful to the manager having players encoureged to do this and then the filming etc

Then they put out shit like yeaterday with some video/tweet that got taken down about an hour later, some cringe crap about Mourinho and "Are You Ready" FFS it was embarresing, especially seeing the form we are in, and the stadium is hardly a fortress, we reguarly get flogged in it.

Manuel 3:58 Sat Nov 23
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Won't be reading the article, but fraser spells it out well. You can't polish a turd no matter how big they make the cesspit. Crystal Palace have more about them as a football club than we do now.

Alfs 2:23 Sat Nov 23
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I agree with Jasnick.

zico 2:01 Sat Nov 23
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It helps if you bring in the right players, technique, ability, fitness and mentality wise which would make the job easier,. Doesn't help when you buy a load of injury prone players or show ponies! That's not a dig at Slav but managers in general, you can make the job easier if you do it right!!!

gph 1:53 Sat Nov 23
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Bollocks is it.

There's at least half a dozen people on here who'd find it a piece of piss...

Jasnik 1:25 Sat Nov 23
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Bilic and Pardew were the past two managers I actually liked.

wd40 1:09 Sat Nov 23
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Didn't he bring in ''bring your kids into work'' days while in charge of us?

Wanted to one of the boys wanted to be liked ...failed

diehardhammer 1:05 Sat Nov 23
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that bit about longing to manage West Brom cracked me up, what a load of shit

Alex G 12:24 Sat Nov 23
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How many seasons in the last thirty years far have been as enjoyable as Bilic's first?

The Pardew cup final season. Maybe a couple under Redknapp.

The rest have been pretty much as mediocre as the other year and a half under Bilic.

Anyone who expects any better doesn't know out recentish history.

ChesterRd 12:23 Sat Nov 23
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I went to a meeting the manager evening at the LS when Bilic was in charge. He was talking about the long hours he had to put in as manager. He then went on to explain that it was often 4pm before he left. People were looking at him thinking, are you for real? I think it fair to say Slav fitted in quite nicely with the regime he is now criticizing.

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