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JLAP 9:57 Mon Dec 30
Tenuous Positives about Moyes
- Might install a bit more fight in the players than Pelle did
- Could turn Haller’s season around, based on what he did previously with Arnie
- He has inherited a better squad than he did previously

(Admittedly I’m struggling here, any more?)

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Lertie Button 8:44 Thu Jan 2
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
He really has nothing to lose. Will never get another Premiership gig after this one so hopefully will go for broke.

Grumpster 8:33 Thu Jan 2
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
Regardless of what any of us thought about the appointment, theres no point in doing anything other than support the bloke, as all we should want is to win games, though obviously nice if it's with a bit of style like yesterday.

For all his faults (football style a big bugbear for many), he has never done anything other than big up the club and recognise the excellent support we have, so he's not an Allardyce walking round cupping his ear and being a fat cunt with no respect for the people paying their hard earned money.

Eerie Descent 7:58 Thu Jan 2
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
"It's his last chance at a Premier League club. If this goes wrong, his top flight career is over. I'm hoping because of that, he'll go for it more."


I posted that the other day, and I know it's only 1 game, but there was definitely a difference in the way he/we went about it yesterday. First time around, he was negative in his first press conference, talking about how shit we were and sure enough, we set up negative and didn't try to get forward at all. He set us up not to lose.

This time, he's been bigging up the players from up front, talking about how happy he is to be at the club, talking about winning the FA Cup, and sure enough we went into the game, albeit against a struggling team, and we clearly went out to win the game, rather than not lose it.

As I say, one swallow and all that, and I certainly didn't want him in charge. But IF he goes for it on Sunday, and we see the same mentality in our upcoming games, that'll do for me.

Big IF at the moment, but we live in hope.

JLAP 7:57 Wed Jan 1
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
Not any more Alf

Sir Alf 4:01 Wed Jan 1
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
We’re in the bottom 3 ! End of thread ;-)

mashed in maryland 1:37 Wed Jan 1
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
One positive is he's almost certainly gonna wanna prove himself, surely?

Balto 11:48 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
He needs to get a song out of Anderson ... who looks like he is frightened of being tackled. He can take players on and beat them but prefers to play sideways.

Pep Guardiola is on record as saying. "When Kevin De Bruyne gets the ball ... the players know to start running."

It should be the same way as when Anderson gets the ball.The bloke needs some options when he has the ball.

If Moyes can fix that then we are more dangerous in attack.

chedylan 2 11:22 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
Foden is the Wilshere we thought we were buying??

I think we have the exact wilshere we thought we were buying.

New Jersey 3:26 Tue Dec 31
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He's a constant reminder to the witch with tits, that she called him out in her fucking embarrassing Sun column (does she still write this?) for being a sexist and yet she had her tongue so far up Philip Green's arse when he was using NDA's all the time to keep his sexual assaults quiet and Brady lost face on this!!

Vexed 3:18 Tue Dec 31
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Definitely. We'll be so deep at all times that we'll forget offside is a thing.

mallard 2:04 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
Hopefully he’ll ditch that suicidal offside trap that MP implemented

Full Claret Jacket 2:03 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
We don't need Foden. We have a number of players with skill and flair who don't have the bottle, strength, pace or combative qualities which you need to win back the ball.
We need better fullbacks and centre midfielders. Much depends on the formation he chooses to use. A positive of Moyes is he is not wedded to one formation or one style of play. Hopefully some changes here will suit some of the underperformers.

Manuel 1:57 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
Really don't want Giroud. Yes he may prove to be okay, but it's just that same old type of familiar signing that we always seem to make, and it's just fucking depressing.

crystal falace 1:57 Tue Dec 31
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Do we really believe Foden would benefit more from coming here and playing in our disjointed team.

Or from training everyday with David Silva and KDB under Guardiola.

Im sure Pep has had teams calling him constantly about trying to take him on loan.

Eerie Descent 1:52 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
"If I'm Guardiola"

Hahaha

The_Phantom 1:41 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
Tenuous Positives about Moyes

He’s not Allardyce or the other names previously mentioned

Vexed 1:33 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
You're a fool if you think we're getting Foden.

How is Balbuena not good enough for the prem exactly? Pretty solid on the whole especially with a shit midfield in front of him, clowns at both full back positions and often a hapless goalkeeper behind him. But yeah dig out one of our more consistent players you dick.

southbankbornnbred 12:23 Tue Dec 31
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If I'm Guardiola and I know he's going to get games and vital experience, yes.

Guardiola has openly talked about getting the kid some key experience - it's what the best coach in England actually wants for him. Here's his chance. Our fans would get behind the kid from day one, I'm quite sure.

It's a brave call, of course. But we are in the shit, the fans have turned on the club and its manager (understandably) and a focal point, around which the club coalesces, is required. As with Hartson and Kitson when we signed them - and later Di Canio.

Harry, for all of his flaws, understood the power of doing something brave which galvanised the fan base and got people off their seats again.

But we have Moyes, so who knows how this goes...

Percy Dalton 12:20 Tue Dec 31
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Forget about Foden we won't get him or any other decent players.
Everyone knows how toxic a club we are.
Would you honestly let one of your brightest young stars come to a car crash club like ours.

southbankbornnbred 12:09 Tue Dec 31
Re: Tenuous Positives about Moyes
I also think that by bringing Foden in on loan (he can play in the centre or as an attacking wide man), it would give Anderson, Fornals, Yarmolenko and Lanzini the kick up the backsides that they need (for different reasons).

Some skilful, young upstart English kid who the crowd get behind taking their place: can imagine that will stir their professional pride. And if it doesn't, then they shouldn't be here.

southbankbornnbred 12:06 Tue Dec 31
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Ajeti is a very poor forward at the moment and would need to improve significantly to become a Premier League player.

Cheap these days, for £8m, and yet we still overspent on him. He could not be trusted to lead the front line if Haller got injured.

So, yes, we do need extra depth at striker. Quite where we get it from, I have no idea.

Was thinking about the whole January transfer window thing last night (not that I spend much time mulling over these things) and I really think Moyes needs to do something brave which really galvanises our fan base and club.

Despite having the likes of Anderson, Yamolenko and Fornals in the squad, we have not created much this season.

Phil Foden is now 19 years old and has been sitting on Man City's bench all season. He needs games. He is a top class youngster, with skill and pace to burn and he plays at a high tempo. He's the Wilshere we thought we were buying.

If I'm Moyes, I'd be straight on the phone to Man City to strike a loan deal for Foden until the end of the season. Young, exciting and English: reckon our fans would get behind the kid. And, frankly, the team and club need a psychological lift.

I'd also go and buy Worrall from Nottingham Forest. Best defender in the Championship and a solid looking prospect who will add depth when, as is inevitable, we let Reid go and finally realise that Balbuena is not Premier League quality.

Two young, English players for the club to rally around. It would start to give the club a lift and a sense that something different is happening.

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