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Sydney_Iron 7:47 Tue Dec 31
Global warming and Climate change
Been in Sydney for 26 year but never experienced anything like the past month before, fires, smoke and the heat some days is fucking unbearable, just a hot dry summer or are Greta Thunberg and all the Activist types right and we are all fucked in the near future?

What’s the verdict from WHO?

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Capitol Man 1:21 Thu Feb 27
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riosleftsock 12:59 Thu Feb 27
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What a fucking loser’s viewpoint. You really do pick up all the shit on the internet and carry it over here.

It’s already happening at a decent scale. Start building the infrastructure now. Everyone isn’t going to buy an electric vehicle tomorrow. If the demand is there the supply will catch up.

Thought you were a free marketeer rather than a right-wing reactionary.

UK is perfect for electric vehicles given it’s a small country with very drives of really long distance.

only1billybonds 1:14 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Please excuse my spelling,not got glasses on and have fat thumbs.

only1billybonds 1:11 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Prumps.

I'm not saying it cant be done,just that its a massive challenge,same as doing away with gas biilers being outlawed. I just dont think the evidence is conclusive enough to justify such measures..

As for the oil companies all they have done is provide a commodity that has been essential in the developed world for years. Granted they have made obscene amounts of money in the process thats what happens in a capitalust society.

riosleftsock 12:59 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
angry

The four points in your first post do not require drastic action. We can do most of this easily and cheaply. That said I agree with you they all need doing.

Your second post requires some thought about the actual practicality.

Forget the charging point at demand for a minute, think about the bigger picture.

1) Energy density is the critical factor, current battery technology offers nothing like the energy density of diesel and petrol, so you get less energy output from the weight of energy stored. A kg of diesel will offer many more miles than that delivered from a kg of Li-on battery. Look it up.

2) The amount of electricity required to provide a reliable quick charging network for 30 million cars is enormous, the grid will need completely re-designing and much of it replacing, including the construction of anything up to 28 new large power plants (we struggle to build one power plant in ten years).

3) The rare earth component of the battery tech (cobalt) is insufficient to produce enough battery cells for even the UK vehicle fleet based on known available resources.

There is much more, but this alone should make you wonder what the hell is going on.

angryprumphs 12:47 Thu Feb 27
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only1billybonds 12:43 Thu Feb 27

Do you really think it will be an issue getting every house a charging point? Pretty sure someone said the same thing to Edison, he did the hard bit.

angryprumphs 12:44 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
rios

The way I see it is some greedy cunt will always be making money from the population. For me, the current crop of greedy cunts who control the oil havent done a great job, so I am happy to side with the hippy cunts for now.

The upshot all this is:

- massive quantities of litter being removed from the sea / beaches
- companies being forced to look at packaging
- companies being forced to look at there environmental footprints
- countries being held to account for the damage they do to the environment
etc

People are talking about it and things are actually being done. This is because of urgency, no other reason.

only1billybonds 12:43 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
I think certain governments,including our own have been sucked into this whole 'emergencey' nonsense and have set totally unrealistic targets. As well as the trillions of £'s rios mentioned there are many practical challenges. For instance,a charging point for electric cars outside every dwelling in the country and making battery's big enough to run bus's and 40' artics.

Of course the government may already know that the word 'emergencey' is a massive exageration and are just joining in to keep certain groups on side.

Hammer and Pickle 12:35 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Actually the runes say “wanker” with a big COCK sign.

riosleftsock 12:33 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Nurse

I've just looked it up in some very ancient runic european scripts and it appears to mean "my liege".

riosleftsock 12:32 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
angry

I pretty much agree with you.

But, I'm always prepared to be proven wrong and happy to admit when I am.

The problem I have is in the assumption of emergency and where this leads us. That's where you need to first have a peek at the people behind these "grass-roots" movements, their motives and what their proposed solutions involve and how it effects us.

In the case of the "climate emergency" it presents itself as a youthful, green movement supported by normal people, whereas in fact its promoted by governments, global organisations such as the UN, EU and multi national corporations and is a very punch down movement in reality.

Then you should look at the risk of the massive capital misallocation.

The green policy currently in front of the UK will cost at least 3 tn pounds, which is £100,000 per household here but with no guaranteed result and looks like a massive economic transition program that certain people will make a fortune from at our expense.

Climate Emergency could possibly destroy the green movement for decades, which I find particularly galling, as genuine environmentalists such as myself will never be heard.

Nurse Ratched 12:28 Thu Feb 27
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Socko 12:20

Maybe it's the slavic equivalent of 'knavinge'

angryprumphs 12:24 Thu Feb 27
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riosleftsock 12:10 Thu Feb 27

But, lets just say you are wrong, not going to argue the reasons why, because honestly neither of us actually have a fucking clue. Arent we best trying to sort it out ASAP just in case?

I am quite happy with us moving towards cleaner energy, cleaner air, using less pollutants and generally not fucking up our planet. If it is done with more urgency, not a bad thing.

riosleftsock 12:20 Thu Feb 27
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Tsotsk?

It makes no sense in any language.

Hammer and Pickle 12:12 Thu Feb 27
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Yep

It's ЦОЦК

riosleftsock 12:10 Thu Feb 27
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angry

There isn't really an anti-climate change argument as such. Nobody could offer an intellectual argument to the fact that the climate changes. You would have to adopt a position of climate stasis.

Pretty much everybody wants cleaner energy and treating the planet responsibly.

The argument is with the ridiculous "urgency", the actual perception of a problem and the colossal misallocation of capital that is being suggested by the untried solutions to a problem that doesn't exist. That's before you address the lack of scientific method, the cynical use of children, especially an autistic, under-developed child with mental health issues.

Sydney_Iron 11:41 Wed Feb 26
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Emissions have plummeted, especially in China. Not the way I would choose to fight global warming but at least there is a positive from this Coronavirus.........

angryprumphs 10:52 Wed Feb 26
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Never really understood the anti climate change arguments, the shift towards cleaner energy and a more responsible view on how we treat the planet has to be a good thing regardless of whether or not we there is any 'tipping point' or imminent crisis.

Hammer and Pickle 10:46 Wed Feb 26
Re: Global warming and Climate change
You might want to refrain from bringing your family into your posts, Batz.

It'll help you consolidate that personality.

riosleftsock 10:46 Wed Feb 26
Re: Global warming and Climate change
o1bb

Shut up and pay your carbon taxes, peasant.

:-)

only1billybonds 10:45 Wed Feb 26
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Rios.

Of course she will. The way this will unfold is that it will show those who dont already know a great truth,that truth being that one side of an arguement will try to shut down the opposing view before said view can be heard.

The whole Brexit fandango was a great example of where we are when it comes to reasoned debate.

Nurse Ratched 10:42 Wed Feb 26
Re: Global warming and Climate change
Probably you, Uncle Disgusting.

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