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Tomshardware 7:48 Mon Jan 13
Anxiety/depression
Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

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arsegrapes 3:10 Sun Sep 20
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zebthecat 10:39 Fri Sep 18

Was that an allergic reaction to penicillin ?

Sniper 12:52 Fri Sep 18
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Zeb

All the best with the CBT fella. It’s a strange but rewarding process, and you do take out what you put in

It’s actually quite fascinating to have your own thought processes mapped out as well - it’s something I think a lot of people could find very useful, not just people suffering from mental health problems

Bungo 11:18 Fri Sep 18
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zebthecat 10:39 Fri Sep 18

I've heard lots of good things about successful long-term treatment with CBT. All the best with that.

zebthecat 10:39 Fri Sep 18
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Finally made it to the top the CBT waiting list and therapy starts next week - Hooray!

One thing I have found is that having a near death experience helps (not that I would recommend this as an intentional treatment option). Had an anaphylactic reaction to antibiotics three months ago and, quite apart from the adrenalin rush, it crystalized that I definitely do not want to die and the small stuff bothers me a hell of a lot less than it did.

Bungo 1:18 Fri Sep 18
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Jasnik 11:41 Thu Sep 17

That's a bit of an over-simplification. They do the best they can based on short consultations and the expectation that many patients have that they can be given a pill which will be a one stop cure-all. The prescribing of ADs short-term can be a massive help to many suffering severe symptoms of depression so that is usually a good thing.

Many doctors are under a lot of time pressure, so unless the patient comes back at the right time, there isn't always a system in place to chase up each patient at the right time. If you don't initiate coming back yourself, then 'the system' will often assume you don't need further treatment.

This is starting to change with diseases such as asthma and diabetes, where GP practices are obliged to offer regular follow up clinics with patients to check progress and modify treatments as necessary. As far as I'm aware, this is not as developed in mental health services yet where treatment is longer-term and people intensive.

So most doctors are doing the best they can, but they don't always have the time or resources to follow each patient through a full treatment regime as they would in a perfect world.

Jasnik 11:41 Thu Sep 17
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Bungo 10:54 Thu Sep 17

So your saying the issue is Doctors giving these pills out like they are smarties.

With no real plan on how to treat the patients.

Bungo 10:54 Thu Sep 17
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Just want to clarify how and when anti-depressants should be used, speaking as an employee of ‘Big Pharma’ who has been involved with the development and distribution of several ADs in the last 25+ years, and having spoken to countless doctors about how they use them.

Firstly, they should not be viewed as a ‘solution’ to depression. They are really the equivalent of putting a sticking plaster on a cut, but this is not always made clear to the patient.

If a doctor has a depressed patient in front of them, they will often prescribe an AD, as this is what the doctor is able to do there and then that is most likely to have the most immediate impact on reducing the worst symptoms (hopefully within a couple of weeks). Many patients also feel that to leave a consultation without a prescription is to somehow be short changed which leads many doctors to feel more pressure to prescribe.

The doctor should then be seeking out other ways to help the patient over the medium/long term with non-pharmacological therapies. Unfortunately, these tend to be less available and often have long waits. Patient adherence to these can be quite variable too as many expect a quick fix which these are not.

For years pharma gave doctors advice about helping patients get off ADs, but as with many medications, many patients stay on them for too long either because they have developed a reliance on them, a lack of timely follow up with the doctor or a lack of availability of alternative therapies.

Many have talked of the ‘deadening’ of all other emotions which is one of the reasons they should only be used for a fairly short time, and the underlying issues addressed.

Hope that’s useful.

whu4eva 5:40 Tue Sep 15
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Sniper 12:20 Tue Sep 15
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Could not have said it better...

It's important to 'feel' emotions and know when you are happy / sad / angry... Dealing / processing / reflecting alone is the hardest time where ultimately it can be hard

Sniper 12:20 Tue Sep 15
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I found ADs just made me feel like my head was ‘humming’ and foggy all the time, I couldn’t focus on anything but at the same time would sort of zone out constantly. I really struggled with them, and I have no idea whether they actually made the difference they were meant to

My main frustration with mental health at the moment is that, once people know you’ve suffered, if you’re upset or angry or downbeat, it’s immediately attributed to that - when in fact you can suffer from depression but still be legitimately annoyed or affected by something in exactly the same way as someone who doesn’t suffer is. But it gets attributed to a ‘down day’ or a ‘are you struggling’ comment, and I found that, on ADs, I would sometimes find it hard to reconcile whether I was genuinely feeling that way or if it was me just being a bit mental.

Since coming off them, I feel much more in tune with when I am struggling and what I need to do and when I am just pissed off because our owners are cunts, or because work is being shit or because a shovel fell down in the garage and landed on my foot or because in dropped my phone and smashed the screen - and that it’s actually fine to be irritated by any of those things and that has nothing to do with you not being able to handle things

side effect 10:15 Mon Sep 14
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I've gone back up to 50mg trip from 10mg and while I'm waiting fro it to kick in the doc gave me 28 5mg diaz and 28 mg zoppys so I'm starting to feel almost normal now.

BubblesCyprus 4:37 Sun Sep 13
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Doc prescribed AD's after Mrs BC went up to the pearly gates over 10 years ago and taking them ever since.only major downside is stop taking them for a week or so and like a junkie without a fix. Never did non prescribed drugs so ignorant of drug addiction but without realising am addicted to them.

Westham67 12:17 Sun Sep 13
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I did the same with antipsychotics which I was taking for 18 months. I had to wean myself off of them and I had broken sleep for months that was June 17

I was reluctant to take antidepressants about this time last year. I took 4 in December 19 and had pains around my liver. I googled conflicts with the meds I was taking and I read do not take with any meds you are taking for heart and so had stop

Always check for any conflict with any medication you are given yourself via google as doctors do not have time to check

whu4eva 5:11 Mon Sep 7
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Hardest thing I found about the chemical option is that it made me emotionally numb... both good and bad emotions

It stopped the lows but also the highs.

It was hard to feel angry / frustrated / happy or excited. That's why I had to get off them

I did it for 3/4/5 months and tapered off and was able to know warning signs / when I needed to immerse myself around friends / family

Boycie 1:55 Fri Sep 4
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Billy Blagg 1:30 Thu Sep 3
B I resisted on the same basis thinking I was able to "tough it out". I gave in and after about 2 or 3 weeks felt completely different. The sick dark feeling was gone and I was able to get back on track. I then came off after about 6 months. That was 7 yrs ago but everything going on at the moment means I am back on them.

Billy Blagg 1:30 Thu Sep 3
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I've been going through it since I lost Lady B just over two years ago. I've tried everything bar the chemical solution which I'm reluctant to do as I feel I should be able to 'cope' and I worry that I may never come off them if they work. In answer to your question, sadly NO.

normannomates 3:13 Thu Sep 3
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In 200 yrs time I will be defrosted and reform WHO

Mike Oxsaw 5:28 Mon Aug 31
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Boycie 10:59 Sun Aug 30

"Yes mate but usually the light is some bastard with a lamp bringing you more work! "...

...which generally implies that you did a good job - or the best he could expect - the last time around.

Boycie 10:59 Sun Aug 30
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Westham67 2:35 Sat Aug 29

Yes mate but usually the light is some bastard with a lamp bringing you more work!

CryBabies 12:32 Sun Aug 30
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I'm through the worst of it. Alcohol helped me - it was my self harm treatment. Unfortunately, it also ruined me. Thinking of positives won't be easy at this moment, but even tiny ones will help.

Westham67 2:35 Sat Aug 29
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Boycie. I have been there mate with the lost it all thing. I fully understand how you feel. But there is light at the end of the tunnel look at every day as getting closer to that light and you are every day that passes separates you from the past and look forward not backward

Boycie 12:23 Sat Aug 29
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hope to god Roberto never plays for us again. Look for the things that make you happy and grab hold of them for as long as you can. Even if it is for a minute or two a day. Those moments get longer and longer. Get to sleep by 11 pm no lights and wake up at a decent time and get out in daylight first thing. It seriously helps. Walk around get exercise, we were made to keep on the move about 10-12km a day, it helps your mood seriously.

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