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Tomshardware 7:48 Mon Jan 13
Anxiety/depression
Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

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Nurse Ratched 11:28 Tue Feb 18
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WHOmail, Zeb.

zebthecat 11:26 Tue Feb 18
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If it is any consolation Nurse (and it probably won't be) we appear to be in a period where we are leaving the Russia, Turkey, Saudi and Iran ti indulge in pointless military adventurism.
For all his faults I don't think that Boris Johnson is inclined towards that sort of silliness and he will be PM for a decade probably so your son's tour could well be over by then.
Which regiment is he contemplating? Unless you son joins the Special Forces or Royal Engineers (they go to unexpected places) he should be OK.

Nurse Ratched 11:24 Tue Feb 18
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That is good news. But knowing my luck, the Cornish Separatists will kick off, he'll be deployed to sort them out, and end up getting decapitated by the sharp edge of a flying pasty.

Westham67 11:06 Tue Feb 18
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It must worrying I know I would be. On the positive side Afghanistan the Taliban the US and Afghani government are near a peace deal.

Nurse Ratched 10:23 Tue Feb 18
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Cheers, Peckham, but he wouldn't listen and he's made his mind up already. He starts training soon.

Tomshardware 10:01 Tue Feb 18
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When your mind gets to a certain place then suicide can seem a perfectly logical solution. As someone else has said it often makes no sense to the people left behind. It's a hugely complex thing to understand and if you've never suffered from mental health problems then you will struggle to comprehend why people choose to end their lives.

That said, the dark clouds do clear, so anyone feeling at rock bottom should talk to.someone. That can be the first step to getting better. No-one should feel alone with this because there's enough people on here who do understand what its like.

Peckham 9:49 Tue Feb 18
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Thanks for confirming that Ray, I have just ordered a copy from Amazon also.

Nurse, that is why I highly recommend anything but the infantry, due to the amount of people I have met or known come back from the middle east with out limbs or suffering from PTSD.
Invictus Games hits home how many disabled veterans there are, likewise Walking with the Wounded or go on the Help for Heroes website.

There are soldiers just getting help now from service in the Falklands google - Gus Hales for example. Combat Stress has failed many of his age.

Likewise as Northern said many people have enjoyed their service.

But if you are going to a theatre of War, it is never going to be all fun and games and the infantry have it tougher than most.

ray winstone 7:04 Tue Feb 18
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I bought my mate Reasons To Stay Alive by Matt Haig as seen on here, I started reading it last night before I send it to him and I think he's going to like it.

Westham67 6:37 Tue Feb 18
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I think my depression was exacerbated by being here for a full winter for first time since 2002

I had the shades on listening to house classic once the currant came out a week ago never to be seen again

Nurse Ratched 3:55 Tue Feb 18
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Cheers, Sold.

I suppose I am worried about what he will see and what he will have to do. Plus, apparently many ex forces struggle to come to terms with civvy street.

alfs barnet 2:48 Tue Feb 18
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mashed in maryland wrote...


"Unfortunately in his mind this wasn't the case, and her believed that his daughter's life would be richer without him in it"


That is a genuine thing. A lot of people in that state really do logically think that they'll be doing their loved ones a favour if they end it all. Fucking impossible to reason with someone that low.


Indeed. It's the most frustrating thing for anyone who's list someone close to suicide.
My mother really couldn't cope with the fact that she felt she could have stopped it, talked him out if it if only she'd known.

mashed in maryland 2:38 Tue Feb 18
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"Unfortunately in his mind this wasn't the case, and her believed that his daughter's life would be richer without him in it"


That is a genuine thing. A lot of people in that state really do logically think that they'll be doing their loved ones a favour if they end it all. Fucking impossible to reason with someone that low.

alfs barnet 2:27 Tue Feb 18
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Manuel wrote...

Barnet - I don't need any wisdom from you, old fella. You are depressed because you don't see your kids as often as you would like so you then take an action that means you then don't see them at at all and vice versa? Completely ridiculous, but by all means you carry on rolling out the usual same old cliches.


Not really the thread to be starting arguments, but there you go.

If you've had any experience of depression or mental illness you'd understand that what seems irrational to you or I will seem completely rational to the person involved.

For instance the incident that pushed my brother towards taking his own life was relatively minor and could have been resolved easily. Unfortunately in his mind this wasn't the case, and her believed that his daughter's life would be richer without him in it. He adored his daughter and if he was thinking rationally he would have never done anything to hurt her. Unfortunately he wasn't thinking rationally so now she grows up without a father and will have to cope with the knowledge that her father took his own life when she eventually finds out.

Northern Sold 2:23 Tue Feb 18
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Nurse Ratched 7:50 Mon Feb 17
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All this talk of ex forces lads becoming depressed and suicidal makes me fear for my son's future. Horrible reading all that.



Nursey I know loads of people that have been ex-forces and the vast majority have loved their time serving her madge... I know of three jumpers out of our building since I have been here (20 years)... it's the person... not the job

Fruitbat 11:18 Tue Feb 18
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My thoughts are with anyone who has had depression - in all its many forms. It's hard to comment on anyone's specific circumstances or experience in any meaningful sense, but it is easy as a human being to feel compassion for someone who has fallen along the way.
The more faith, hope and sense of worth disappear and the deeper one falls into the mire, the harder it can be to get out, but it's not impossible. Often it needs a light bulb moment or epiphany to reverse things and begin the climb out. I know from close experience that these moments can be dramatic and illuminating.
Best regards to anyone who has suffered or is suffering from depression. Keep going.

Manuel 9:21 Tue Feb 18
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Barnet - I don't need any wisdom from you, old fella. You are depressed because you don't see your kids as often as you would like so you then take an action that means you then don't see them at at all and vice versa? Completely ridiculous, but by all means you carry on rolling out the usual same old cliches.

alfs barnet 7:44 Tue Feb 18
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Manuel wrote...

I'm sorry, but topping yourself because you spend less time with your kids makes no sense whatsoever.


Suicide rarely makes any sense apart from too the person taking their own life.

Manuel 3:55 Tue Feb 18
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I'm sorry, but topping yourself because you spend less time with your kids makes no sense whatsoever. So now he will never see them at all, miss seeing them grow up, and has left 2 kids without a father in this world. Must have been more to it than that.

Peckham 3:20 Tue Feb 18
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This poem was written for soldiers. But it can resonate with anybody who has to put on a mask and hide their pain and continue as if nothing is up. It's called the Mask.
" Get a grip, I'm expected to succeed, face fear, be strong and take the lead, not resilitate in thoughts or deed.
My mask must never slip.
Man up and keep my thoughts inside.
No one can know how much I cried,
When the bloodshed came and the fear arrived.
My mask must never slip.
Crack on there's no time to reflect or admit I did genuflect and prayed to god, for me to protect.
My mask must never slip.
Chin up! Worry not about how I feel, never let them know just how surreal it was. Dark thoughts I can't reveal.
My mask must never slip.

Peckham 3:14 Tue Feb 18
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Just to add to my earlier post.
I met this lads parents.
He was part of a team protecting Harry.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/901196/Prince-Harry-Afghanistan-soldier-dead-Army-PTSD-treatment

The Government as usual has done too little too late. There NHS for veterans service is beyond good but its only been recently invested in.

Otherwise it's only Charities that support Veterans and those unwell.

Can't underestimate how good the Royal British Legion is for support and care for former Soldiers.
But there are loads of good selfless charities running on tight budgets doing loads too.

PTSD from military service is the modern day Shell Shock in some way.

Sorry to bore all.

Nurse Ratched 12:19 Tue Feb 18
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Thanks, Zeb, but I think I'll give the poem a miss 😕

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