WHO Poll
Q: 2020/2021 Where will we finish up this season?
a. Top Four, Champions League here we come
7%
  
b. 5th-7th Europa League is well within our grasp
1%
  
c. 8th to 14th anywhere in mid table is about right
13%
  
d. We're in a dog fight before a ball has been kicked and we'll do well to finish 17th or just above
38%
  
e. GSB have derailed our season before a ball has been kicked, the Championship beckons
42%
  



Barty 9:53 Sat Jan 18
So who´s attending the protest today then?
I send my best wishes from Iceland!

Hound SG&B OUT or make them fulfill their promises!

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On The Ball 3:26 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
The sale of UP is a bonus, I think. The real money will come for them when they sell up. I'm absolutely certain that they want to get the stadium then they'll have a much more attractive thing to sell.

Sir Alf 11:53 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
The owners set expectations to achieve the one thing that really mattered to them..... a property deal involving the sale of UP.

They need to be held accountable for over selling the move. Its that simple.

Most fans never bought into the European football in 7 years nonsense but do expect us to be run professionally and not by owners who dabble in the football side ( transfers ) and to not be facing relegation struggles every season. That is next level for us.

The analogy I use is a leaky roof, You cannot patch it with a few gold plated tiles in some areas when others are falling apart. Thats' the model. Get a few gold plated ones via one season's spend but then fail to continue the investment. The roof falls through every few years. Then a few more gold plated tiles , repeat .... and so on.

It will take 5 - 10 years of above average investment but underpinned by a long term plan or strategy with a robust scouting and recruitment team ( not volunteers), the best data analysis team you can pay for, the best training and medical facilties. This should be overseen by someone who knows what they are doing . has had success doing that, sourcing players etc.. because some of teh best young players don't cost that much. But you need to know everything about them, their potential etc... and not have some volunteer looking at streams or youtube.

All the above will mean foregoing some / a material profit or dividend or loan interest for at least 5 - 10 seasons.

It is the owners right to say we don't want to do that. But this is a unique business and very much about the long term. If you do not want to do that then sell to someone that will or expect protest and unhappiness with your ownership. Like it or not Sullivan and Gold cannot treat fans like customers. These are people who have deep emotional bonds with their "brand" which is why changing it was always asking for trouble.

They would get away with it if we were consistently top half, seen to be building something but no. Take the big transfer kitty Pellegrini got teh year he joined. They follow that next season by recouping fees via a 23 million net spend, reducing wages/operating expenses, losing 6 players from the squad and replacing 1 with a like for like substitute. Some of these squad players were not regulars but they contributed ( Hernandez, Perez scored some useful goals. Obiang was better than Sanchez etc). This action is what has led us to be in real danger of relegation again. Sullivan, Gold or more likely Brady's decision to apply financial prudence asap to meet short term financial targets. I have seen it in over 40 years in the workplace, Accountants who only understand cost cutting and not the idea of investing to make much bigger gains longer term. Its what kills many companies and is one reason why we are looking at the trap door to the championship yet again.

Thames Ironworks 11:36 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Great having a protest if it comes to something. Waste of time!

Takashi Miike 11:02 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
where is the line between running a club as a 'business' to running it as a personal cash cow? people have a choice to take their 'business' elsewhere in the real world in regard to tescos, iceland or any other business that treats them with contempt, so comparing consumers to a captive audience of football fans who treat following a club like a religion is nonsensical

Mike Oxsaw 7:04 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
It's definitely the tail wagging the dog now.

Football (clubs/teams) started as community/bonding projects for company employees and are now businesses in their own rights, where as (many of) the originating communities/companies have long gone.

At the administrative level, a modern football club absolutely MUST be run as a business because football (and not, as in our history, shipbuilding) is the main/sole revenue-generating product.

One of the biggest killers is fucking up the cash-flow in a headlong attempt to buy success in the short term. History - not just football - is littered with failures; not because the products or service was bad, but because they fucked up their cash flow. No good "going to be big in 5 years" if you can't pay the wages of today's staff.

normannomates 6:24 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
ICELAND****

normannomates 6:20 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Alfs/gank/block. Etc

ITS fookin boring

Let's go

normannomates 6:16 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Alfs
Don't fuck about.. Just admit you are one of em you fookin toad

normannomates 6:14 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Mph
Chattin shit
Proper

Alfs 3:40 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Of course, West Ham is a fucking business and anyone who doesn't realise that is living in the 1970s.

Football creates billions of pounds of income. Money attracts greedy fuckers who want more money - and they're all over the premier league. Their purpose is to create revenue not to give a shit if we get to the Carabo cup final as that will bring in less income than finishing two places higher.

Yes, it's sad for us old fuckers but things change and move on. Football as many of us knew it is dead and that's not going to change. Well, certainly not in the Prem.

At least we can enjoy free streams and watch every game from the comfort of our homes, so progress has also brought some pluses.

ManorParkHammer 3:34 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
I was there as well.

Has no bearing on what I am saying.

normannomates 3:22 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Chim 2.18

normannomates 3:20 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
I recall Chester Rd was there among the frozen pathetic few at Blackburn Rovers away Upper stand few yrs ago.. the coldest away day?.. Up there certainly.

BODS like that will always have my back.

Calm down lads

Irons

normannomates 3:06 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Decent muster.. From decent people.
That kumb fella does love a bit of attention though doesn't hehttps://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OGC.76a53a8e41e35e5f79093dfcdafcb3a4&pid=Api&rurl=https%3a%2f%2fmedia.giphy.com%2fmedia%2f137IuTbsAaHDWg%2fgiphy.gif&ehk=Q3C1%2by%2fnvRC6xXimIkrgkYSEA027CiZpxzy1vF11nr0%3d .... .. but that don't mean shit.. Fair play for Gettin up.
Bubbles requires no thanks from like of me

ManorParkHammer 2:58 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Ah, avoidance and asking for back up.

It’s ok.

Realise you are a poor useless tramp compared to the owners like I have about myself and my opinion is based on my embarrassing small less than 100k salary and you may be able to enjoy life.

They are better than you. More successful. Happier.

They are not arguing with a drunk on the internet at 1 in the morning.

Grow up.

ChesterRd 2:49 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
You'll have to do a bit better than that.

Anything else you want to add? It will give the early risers something to laugh about in the morning.

ManorParkHammer 2:46 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain to you why you are wrong.

Grow up, try not to be bitter and understand that the owners are just better than you in every way and your opinion means nothing.

When I realised that, I felt so much better about my life. Bin juice is not champagne: understand your position in life.

ChesterRd 2:42 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Do you understand what crying means? It is you who is immaturely responding like a petulant child so perhaps the person doing the crying is you seeing as it's an activity mainly associated with childhood.

ManorParkHammer 2:41 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
So? They own the club. They are more invested than you.

And more successful.

It sucks to have to be on the receiving end of other people’s decisions. However I am not successful enough and neither is anyone on here to replace them. So until then all you are doing is whinging like a baby denied an ice cream.

Grow up.

ChesterRd 2:38 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
I'm a home and away season ticket holder.

ManorParkHammer 2:37 Sun Jan 19
Re: So who´s attending the protest today then?
Haha Chester. The comment of a bitter poor man. How do you judge success? Crying about millionaires making decisions you do not agree with?

Grow up.

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