goose 12:23 Wed Jan 22
This coronavirus in China
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anyone else worried? 9 dead so far.
CNY soon so the virus will spread very quickly if they cannot control it. It'll be in Europe by the end of CNY if not earlier.
is this the end of humanity?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51202216
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BRANDED
4:44 Sat Apr 10
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Here’s a decent article about Sweden in the New Yorker that probably wouldn’t have been published six months ago in this way. As time passes the story unfolds of course.
www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/swedens-pandemic-experiment/amp
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BRANDED
4:35 Sat Apr 10
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Sweden and Florida
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Side of Ham
4:26 Sat Apr 10
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You always talk like there is one Branded so name it......I think most want there to be one as well so it can be the benchmark in the future....
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Mike Oxsaw
4:22 Sat Apr 10
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BRANDED 4:08 Sat Apr 10
Doesn't matter how many states/nations there are - which of those would you hold up as the one that got it (most) right?
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BRANDED
4:08 Sat Apr 10
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There are two hundred nations and then hundreds of state’s within them.
I can only talk about what I know
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Mike Oxsaw
3:58 Sat Apr 10
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BRANDED 3:35 Sat Apr 10
I didn't ask for your "ideal position" and all the attached waffle - I asked you to identify a nation/state that could be used as a bellwether to help guide all other nations on the planet in getting out of the pandemic.
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mashed in maryland
3:54 Sat Apr 10
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Think I've worked out where the wires are crossing here.
I thought that a chance of the government saying
"Oh well, you've been vaccinated under the impression you'll be bringing all this to the end, but tough shit, it didn't work and people died again and therefore back under lockdown you go haha better luck next time"
Would be something you'd all be unhappy with. Turns out you'll all be more than happy with it and in fact welcome it.
*shrugs*
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BRANDED
3:44 Sat Apr 10
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I think it’s perfectly reasonable there will be a third wave and that people will die.
It’s exactly the same as a flu season.
People will die of something so they’ll likely die of two existing morbidities and then also Covid. As they do with flu. As they have done for the last year.
The big difference is that if you’re a remotely confident person you’ll get on with life just as most of us would have anyway.
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On The Ball
3:40 Sat Apr 10
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I don't get why the Government would forewarn people of these things if they had no need to. Is it some sort of game?
Also, why is just about every Government on the planet in on it? And why are none of their opposition parties calling them out on it?
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Lily Hammer
3:35 Sat Apr 10
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Coffee, he posted it a couple of pages ago..,,.
mashed in maryland 9:01 Fri Apr 9
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From the government's own website
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spi-m-o-summary-of-further-modelling-of-easing-restrictions-roadmap-step-2-31-march-2021
"As with previous SPI-M-O modelling of easing restrictions, all scenarios from the three
groups lead to a distinct third wave; there is significant uncertainty in both the
timing and scale of its peak with results differing between the groups and across
the sensitivity analyses. For the central scenarios modelled (with significant transmission
reduction after Step 4, very high uptake and no waning immunity or escape variant), the
peaks are estimated to be lower than those seen in January 2021 and likely below those
seen in Spring 2020 (Figure 4). The resurgence is a result of some people (mostly children)
being ineligible for vaccination; others choosing not to receive the vaccine; and others
being vaccinated but not perfectly protected (including those who have only received one
dose, rather than two). This means population immunity – which is the reason the waves
modelled here start to shrink – is not achieved from vaccination without further infections.
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have
received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave
respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age
groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated
individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56."
The government's own study on its own website admitting that there will be a third wave and despite having 2 jabs, people will die.
Told ya.
They told you vaccination was the way out of all this. I said it wasn't. You all said I was chatting shit. Now the govt are saying it themselves.
Jab or no jab, they won't let this bollocks end any time soon.
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BRANDED
3:35 Sat Apr 10
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My ideal position would be allowing the maximum freedom to the citizens of a nation to make their own decisions about their own lives. Ideally I prefer that beyond the nation state but clearly most people are citizens of one nation.
Now. I’ve already said that in a situation where you need to keep the health care services functioning you build capacity and rearrange the system to suit the increased capacity requirements. That’s what you do in any other situation.
I also think you are 100% honest with people otherwise those who investigate will find you out.
That or you are already a totalitarian state and you lock people in their homes.
So. I don’t think I’d judge a state by deaths but by a broad set of judgements. I mean we started the most obese and pretty unhealthy state in Europe so it wasn’t good before. I would say it’s a lot worse now health wise.
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mashed in maryland
3:34 Sat Apr 10
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Certainly coffee
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spi-m-o-summary-of-further-modelling-of-easing-restrictions-roadmap-step-2-31-march-2021
Page 10
"The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have
received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave
respectively."
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Coffee
3:30 Sat Apr 10
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mashed in maryland 3:22 Sat Apr 10
Can you paste what the govt says about it being mostly people jabbed with this incredible vaccine who die from it?
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Mike Oxsaw
3:29 Sat Apr 10
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mashed in maryland 3:22 Sat Apr 10
You have proved NOTHING (except, perhaps that you've become a bit unhinged over the last year).
Why is it you keep throwing up comments from over a year ago, when very little was known about the virus and how to react to it, as some sort of argument against the way things are today?
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On The Ball
3:29 Sat Apr 10
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"now I've proven"
Well done proving something that Boris said to the public some weeks ago. Must have taken some intense "research", that.
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mashed in maryland
3:28 Sat Apr 10
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Rios, in case you're still reading...
Mim: here is a link to a government web page where they say there will be a third wave with the majority of deaths being those jabbed with this thing that's supposedly the answer to all our problems, therefore this bollocks will continue
Joyo: you are a mentally ill conspiracy theorist
See what i meant earlier? You can literally point to the sky and say "look its blue" but it the government/press told them 5 minutes ago its purple with yellow spots, they'll call you mad.
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mashed in maryland
3:22 Sat Apr 10
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Oh and now I've proven that the gov are not only expecting a third wave but saying that it'll mostly be people jabbed with this incredible amazing world saving vaccine who die from it....
How many of you are still so confident that there won't be another lockdown?
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joyo
3:21 Sat Apr 10
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MIM..l normally like you as a poster, but on this you are coming across a as crackpot conspiracy theorist
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Mike Oxsaw
3:19 Sat Apr 10
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BRANDED 3:01 Sat Apr 10
So.
Cut to the chase.
Which nation/state are you holding up as a beacon of (most) correct when it comes to dealing with the global pandemic?
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mashed in maryland
3:18 Sat Apr 10
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Crassus 3:07 Sat Apr 10
That is their end.
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mashed in maryland
3:11 Sat Apr 10
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ChillTheKeel 3:06 Sat Apr 10
Matt Hancock:
https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1344205863507132416?s=20
"The vaccine is the way out of this pandemic"
Out of everyone on here, you have disappointed me the most. You've spent years cunting the Tories off but now they're actually pulling off a move to dictatorship you're on here making excuses for them, even if you must know deep down what they're doing is wrong. I expect that from avowed Tories like Surf and Hermit but not you ffs.
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