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goose 12:23 Wed Jan 22
This coronavirus in China
anyone else worried? 9 dead so far.

CNY soon so the virus will spread very quickly if they cannot control it. It'll be in Europe by the end of CNY if not earlier.

is this the end of humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51202216

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Lee Trundle 5:57 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
It's a phrase quite often used over here, Pickled. It's no surprise it's lost on you.

Hammer and Pickle 5:57 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
Your "coin" Twundle?

Has a wheel fallen off your house or something?

Mike Oxsaw 2:51 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
dealcanvey 2:30 Fri Feb 26

Can't argue with that.

Key now is patience (not a common virtue these days) - be guided by how things pan out after each step.

I see some releases being pushed back, some being brought forward, none of which will satisfy those who demand absolute and immovable dates in the process.

dealcanvey 2:30 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
Mike

With the Vaccine the health services should not now come under extreme pressure.

We will probably still see hundreds/thousands of cases a day but it should not be causing serious illness for 99% of people.

The hysteria at the start created by uncertainty and the media is slowly going away. A vast majority of people just want to go back to normal now. The vaccine will hopefully bring around normality and the media will eventually find something else to talk about.

Mike Oxsaw 2:19 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
dealcanvey 2:09 Fri Feb 26

Many (and I don't claim to be among them) were saying, at the start of the outbreak, that this would be the end game.

Everything that governments have done in the interim was just to protect their respective health services (as the failure of those would have been totally intolerable).

dealcanvey 2:09 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
COVID variants cannot be controlled. To worry about variants means that you will never leave the house again.

The flu constantly changes and the vaccine has to be tweaked every year. It is why flu still does the rounds now.

COVID will be no different.

Mike Oxsaw 2:05 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
Thailand is considering waiving their mandatory 2 weeks quarantine for international travellers who have been vaccinated/had a recent negative test. That will unleash a huge tsunami of European people (not just feeeeeelthy purrrverts) looking to get away.

Flights will be dirt cheap and many who had considered European destinations will be tempted, despite the 14 hour flight time.

Europe needs to get it's tourist industry back in order or it will lose out big time.

Lee Trundle 2:03 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
The Bubble and Squeaks are most definitely desperate for our coin, Pickled, and would jump at the chance of vaccinated passports if it means they get our business. The hotel owners are suffeirng massively there.

But being an EU glove puppet you wouldn't care what they think.

Hammer and Pickle 1:58 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
"The EU wants vaccination passports as they're desperate for our coin as they know we're likely to be the only vaccinated people in the summer."

I very much hope this is auto satire.

Mike Oxsaw 1:31 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
Come on! Come on! Some perspective here.

Some people have had an absolute bastard of a lockdown and fully deserve (DESERVE...FULLY) a vacation.

The right for them to freely do so far outweighs the risk of them bringing back a variant and starting the whole fucking lockdown cycle again - surely you can see that.

Lily Hammer 1:12 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
These vaccines don’t stop the vaccinated picking up new variants and bringing them back and spreading them.

I theory, you wouldn’t be allowed on the plane to get back home if you haven’t had a recent negative test.

Johnson 1:06 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
That doesn't stop you picking it up or spreading it though Lily, or bringing it back home.

Lily Hammer 12:57 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
I resent the idea of being forced to take a rushed experimental vaccine to be allowed to travel.

I’d be much less uncomfortable with a Recent Negative Test Passport. Develop a quick, easy and inexpensive test which updates an App on your phone to give you a green light each time you want to go on a plane or in a pub club football stadium etc.

Johnson 12:57 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
Hopefully this will all calm down when greater numbers around the world are vaccinated and the virus retreats.

Anything like this vaccine passport and testing should hopefully be a temporary thing if it does indeed get off the ground.

I think aligning inoculations (all of them) with your passport is a good technical innovation - but the use of it needs to be understood particularly around the points rios raises.

stewie griffin 12:53 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
haven't really seen anything other than on here, sock0, as i don't watch or read the news - but if you need one to enter Spain (for example) in the same way people need to pass tests to get in to various places now, suspect we'd be required to follow suit in some way?

El Scorchio 12:50 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
I hear that, but I'd be pretty surprised if it didn't happen, by hook or by crook. Whether we as individuals agree with it or not. In the end it doesn't really matter what any of us thinks, as with all the decision making on this.

riosleftsock 12:45 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
Scorch

I'm not so sure. It may still be in kite-flying stages.

This is not in the same category as other vaccinations/innoculations - its only authorised for emergency use.

El Scorchio 12:42 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
It's surely inevitable for international travel, and fair enough.

You just can't risk any possible variants which could theoretically evade current vaccines at any point getting into any country where it's under control, wrecking all the progress made and putting us back to square one.

riosleftsock 12:40 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
stewie

Despite all the noise in the media, I don't think this cunning plan will survive first contact with the enemy (law).

Until the vaccines are fully licensed, any government using coercion or compulsion to force citizens to take an experimental medicine that is only authorised for emergency use is on very dodgy grounds.

stewie griffin 12:31 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
to be fair, the idea of a vaccine passport for internal use is a bit cunty - but if you're going to need one to travel to other countries, you'd have to think we'll install a similar system here.

The old c wing 12:21 Fri Feb 26
Re: This coronavirus in China
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56202975

Vaccine twitchers.

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