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goose 12:23 Wed Jan 22
This coronavirus in China
anyone else worried? 9 dead so far.

CNY soon so the virus will spread very quickly if they cannot control it. It'll be in Europe by the end of CNY if not earlier.

is this the end of humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51202216

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mashed in maryland 7:54 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Real serious and sustainable initiative to prepare for another pandemic would not involve spending billions, it would just be to encourage people to not be fat.

The NHS still promotes the food pyramid and eat-well plate.

*shrugs*

Lily Hammer 7:34 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
bruuuno

That was then. This is now.

A couple of years ago nobody could have imagined the shit that we’ve all had to swallow because of an utterly underprepared NHS.

We now know that viruses are a major threat that will never go away, so we should pay the big bucks to be prepared, just as we pay big bucks to have a military prepared for conflicts we also hope don’t happen.

bruuuno 7:29 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Can you imagine the headlines if, a couple of years ago, the press got hold of the fact that the NHS were sitting on a couple of billion just in case of a pandemic

Mike Oxsaw 7:21 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Lily Hammer 7:17 Tue Apr 13

They won't.

Haircut, beer, football; once those are back nobody will give a fuck.

Lily Hammer 7:17 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
I know what you mean, Mike.

I hope everyone is pissed off enough with lockdown to put political pressure on to make the tightwad cunts do what it takes to prepare the NHS well enough so we never lockdown everyone ever again.

Mike Oxsaw 7:13 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Lily Hammer 7:05 Tue Apr 13

It's endemic across many industries. Planning for possibilities is severely discouraged: wait for something to fuck up then (try to) fix it is the modern idiom

Imagine if your mobile phone company took the same approach. Fortunately clever people hold sway, but I'm not sure for how long.

Lily Hammer 7:05 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
The WHO’s pandemic strategy was updated as recently as Autumn 2019, so it wasn’t outdated when this all kicked off weeks later.

As for the bean counters saving the country money, that worked out well. How much have we been borrowed so far, I wonder?

Mike Oxsaw 6:53 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Lily Hammer 6:44 Tue Apr 13

I suspect the answer is that they left the NHS ill/un-prepared for such an event; absolute minimum of stocks like PPE - just enough to cope with a moderate 'flu season and an assumption that they could procure w hat was needed at the drop of a hat.

Some bean-counter somewhere put together a convincing enough PowerPoint presentation to "save the country money" and the existing "rule book" was out-dated. The government then acted on it.

He/She probably works at one of the Big 4 consultancies now.

Lily Hammer 6:44 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Mike Oxsaw 5:58 Tue Apr 13

There’s no way of dealing with a pandemic without upsetting someone, I just can’t understand why the, for one example among many, the UK government chose to ditch the well established strategy for mass virus outbreaks, which does not recommend quarantining the healthy, nor face masks for all, and instead followed the strategy laid out at Event 201, in October 2019, which was set up and attended by all the fat cats who are earning obscene amounts from how things have proceeded.

Why the fuck did we tear up the rule book and instead dance to the tune of a bunch of billionaires with such vested interests?

Johnson 6:41 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
There's a phrase about equal unfairness that I can't remember what it is, but that.

Lily alluded to it earlier, avoid accusations of discrimination by fucking up everyone.

I'm not saying I agree with it and I hope now the vaccine offers that buffer that an approach more at your end of the scale is taken up in the event of a variant etc.

Mike Oxsaw 6:33 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
mashed in maryland 6:29 Tue Apr 13

Unfair on who?

mashed in maryland 6:29 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
How is that any more unfair than the current system where employers are FORCED to furlough staff and many are literally not permitted to work?

Johnson 6:25 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
mashed in maryland 6:19 Tue Apr 13

So an employer has to pay 20% or whatever of the wages of someone who refuses to work, with the govt. paying the rest and then pay 100% of a replacement worker who they'd then need to pay off once fat worker returns?

Can't see that catching on to be honest.

british is best 6:25 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
I honestly don't know why people are so tribal over the conservatives or labour . They are as bad as eachother the vast majority of MPs on both sides are owned by the corporate lobby . It's an absolute shit show . Just look at that photo of John woodcock and mike gapes with the mad butcher of Saudi Arabia and to think Corbyn was an extremist in there eyes .but he wasnt . is the biggest piss take in the history of politics anywhere . And I ain't a lefty.

Lee Trundle 6:20 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
You mean something like the social credit system that China has, MiM?

Mike Oxsaw 6:19 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Employers are required, by law, to provide a safe working environment.

Allowing everyone back into the office just so a few selfish, pox-ridden fuckwits can go down the gym at lunchtime does not constitute providing a safe working environment.

mashed in maryland 6:19 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Therefore it would make sense to provide some sort of scheme for those who want to stay home.

Everyone is then happy and the country's economy rolls along.

Furlough those who want to be furloughed. I cannot imagine this being any more difficult or expensive than the path they have chosen, and would be infinitely less disruptive.

Johnson 6:14 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
You know full well if the govt. said everyone back to work, folk refused and got fired by their employer then they govt. would be on the hook for that.

mashed in maryland 6:06 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Who said anything about forcing anyone?

If people wanna go back to work, they should be able to. If people don't, then they should be able to as well.

I never realised the concept of free will and not requiring government permission to do anything was such a far-out libertarian ideal, i thought it was just the standard.

Mike Oxsaw 5:58 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
Lily Hammer 5:16 Tue Apr 13

So, who's ego is going to allow them to admit that they are not fat/fit and therefore self-isolate?

You only have to see the handful of posters on here desperate to prove they are not wrong about anything (even stuff they have no knowledge about) to get an idea of the answer.

Lily Hammer 5:57 Tue Apr 13
Re: This coronavirus in China
The teachers’ union, the most powerful union, better be careful what they wish for, because there is a lot of home schooling software being developed, these days.

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