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Come On You Irons 1:23 Sun Sep 6
One dead and seven injured in Brum stabbings
Religion of peace again?

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Mike Oxsaw 8:26 Tue Sep 8
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Following the release of the CCTV images of the suspect on Sunday,police are considering, given the location, that he might be from the Black Country,

Investigations are ongoing as to determine exactly which one.

Side of Ham 8:16 Tue Sep 8
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, 7:51 Tue Sep 8

No need to speculate, or draw a conclusion on your agenda comma because if it were a right wing extremest with the slightest of tory links it would all be out there before you could type a comma.

Victim? Oh sorry forgot about him/her. Obviously had it coming, tory as well?

That's why it turns into a big debate every time this kind of thing happens............stop acting like your the bastion of fairness on here........

, 7:51 Tue Sep 8
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Reports of someone being killed, a suspected murder.

Quick, get on to WHO in order to speculate about what sort of person did this, colour, religion, ethnicity and mental state etc.

Rapidly scour msm in order to draw a conclusion which matches your agenda.

Victim? Oh sorry forgot about him/her. Obviously had it coming, druggie?

Cony Tottee 5:28 Tue Sep 8
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Didn't Gillette has some issues after their woke advert?

only1billybonds 5:07 Tue Sep 8
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Crass.

Your point about the chief of plod in and around Brum echoes mine from yesterday. What is the mindset of those at the top when it comes to cases like this? Do they think that not revealing all the facts is somehow gonna ease racial tensions? We all know that some whites are dangerous wrong uns but the same applies to the darker skinned among us. These cunts should trust the public with a bit more trust and sense. My first thoughts when i heard the news were with the victims family,i didnt suddenly want a/some black people dead as a form of retriibution. Law and order require honesty,the authorities need to apply their share if they demand it of us.

BRANDED 4:57 Tue Sep 8
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Most advertising is directed at the people advertisers expect to spend their hard earned or easy debt on. They aren’t fucking stupid.

Cabbage Savage 4:54 Tue Sep 8
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its sad poland miss out on so much kultural enrichmant

Crassus 4:54 Tue Sep 8
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Fo
Ads - My take, to use a modernism or two, is that it is 'appropriation'.
Let's use a few ethnics and mixed race types to appeal not to the same, but white wokey types, as they love all that stuff these days and add a degree of cultural sophistication to a bag of frozen chips for the peasants who buy them
A policy determined by the same as they seek to influence those that are not.
Ironic really, cynical manipulation of perception by way of tokenism.
Also rather amusing that there was something on the wireless a couple of weeks back, and I can't for the life remember who it was, but one brand had seen sales reverse in a kick back by the consumer against it's apparent PC delivery, and that from across the ethnic customer base
Interesting times mate

Golden Oldie 4:34 Tue Sep 8
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Some astonishingly bad takes here, some special mention goes to Vexed best guess at it being the work of a 'far right cracka assed honkey' and DefJam stating that the least likely to be assaulted specifically for their race are white people, even though all evidence points to the contrary in both cases.

Fo the Communist 4:30 Tue Sep 8
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Yes, we are, to a very large extent, arguing around the margins.

On the issue of ads, you are not incorrect in your observation but I suspect the reason for that is not blindly following PC doctrine. Rather it is appealing – merely to increase market share – to those who do and to those from what have been identified as untapped markets. Big business doesn’t run untested advertising campaigns that are knowingly against their own commercial interests.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:56 Tue Sep 8
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defjam 12:10 Tue Sep 8

Erm - we were talking about black people and white people, not terrorists and racists.

Nice try, though.

Crassus 3:34 Tue Sep 8
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Fo
We are sort of there but you are missing the point, at least my point
It is not so much left or right per se politically, it is the current vogue of identity, black or white if you pardon the pun with a healthy dose of your man Trevor Phillips' thinking
The BBC, in fact Sky C4/5, printed media, the civil service, local authorities, academia, emergency services et al all following the same agenda, and it is bollox
I'll give you an example, senior plod in the West Mids were trying not to reveal the identity of the week ends assailant and have been subsequently 'condemned' according to the Times. Yesterday one of the seniors emerged to say it could be down to lockdown!
Another, I understand that the black population equates to around 3% of the populace, so why is it that every ad on tv features mixed race families/gatherings? Fuck me you have a chip commercial and the diners look like something from the UN, with a token Ginge dropped in for good measure
In the event that whites are involved in anything it is immediately reported as hijacked by the far right and whitey playing up again
I reckon that your average black fella will be copping the pip that these lemons are showing faux outrage on their behalf too. The evil thing about it, is that in my mind the interest is not genuinely in the alleged victims but a look at me who can shout the loudest, self aggrandisement exercise.
Fifth, I take your point but having grown up in Newham, I too have a healthy understanding of how a very mixed race community got on in those days, broadly speaking we saw mates and people, not colour - not so sure that would be 'allowed' in these times mind

Mike Oxsaw 3:25 Tue Sep 8
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Fo the Communist 2:06 Tue Sep 8

I am not sure that the lack of progress on rooting out the causes of islamaphobia is any more than the simple fact that in doing so focus may (have to also) be brought on other groups that enjoy a more privileged position in UK society.

Without naming that/those group/s, it is a privilege that, down though the decades has put them in positions of power they would otherwise have no access to and would not want to lose.

Fifth Column 3:03 Tue Sep 8
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Crassus I disagree on one point. I lived in South London in predominantly black neighbourhood for almost 20 years until this year. Big turnover in terms of immigration from all over the world. Huge number of the woke hipsters and students moved in over the last decade. They are the sort of wokies you're talking about and they certainly do live in the neighbourhoods affected by mass immigration. Once they have kids and its time for kids to go to school though they move back out near to where mummy and daddy live so maybe you are half right

Fo the Communist 2:06 Tue Sep 8
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Afternoon Crass.
Don't disagree with most of that but I am not sure you can say it is predominantly the fault of the left when a Tory Government has been in power for a decade.

I really didn't want to post this as I was trying to avoid a right-versus-left argument but look at the following as an indication of how successive administrations duck the issue.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grooming-gang-rotherham-review-home-office-findings-a9344896.html

You could add the Government's much-vaunted inquiry into Islamophobia to the list. It's all gone very quiet on that front. Whether or not the tory party is more islamophobic than the Labour Party is anti-Semitic is not he point: it is that if a Government can side-step the issue of race/religion then it will.

I think what we have here is a failure of the collective political establishment. And this is based not on a political ideology but rather a fear of upsetting people or opening up a Pandora's box that has fuck knows what lurking at the bottom.

I am sure that the civil servants, council workers, coppers and the rest who collectively failed so badly in the various grooming scandals were acting not out of misguided politics but fear of the consequences of stabbing at a hornet's nest.

Slightly off on a tangent, Trevor Phillips made am interesting point the other day, I thought, when he said that the reason the BBC gets itself tied up in knots over race issues is through a lack of diversity. Basically you have a largely all-white leadership second guessing what it needs to do in order to not offend a given demographic.

Crassus 1:39 Tue Sep 8
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Fo the Communist 1:00 Tue Sep 8

You are absolutely correct there Fo, the right are not without blame in their shameful pursuit of the centre vote
However, whilst not solely the province of the left it is predominantly so
Moreover, this left of which you speak, it is not the traditional left, proper left if you like, but the Metrocentric shysters of the Islingtonista type - the fuckers that advocate one thing but don't intend to live within an area that bears the consequences of it, whilst their electorate do
Final point that riles me, modern day racism is only a thing if it perpetrated by whites, black on black, internecine feuds from imported conflicts, illegal customs etc are all not up for general debate
Put all that together and you have a cocktail of disenfranchised political drift away from traditional voting

Jaan Kenbrovin 1:06 Tue Sep 8
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Never said they were the same, I just find it amazing only one has become acceptable to protest.

Fo the Communist 1:00 Tue Sep 8
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The unwillingness of those in power to discuss this and other race/religion-entwined issues is not solely the province of the left. Attempts to paint it as such just adds more heat than light to the debate.

defjam 12:10 Tue Sep 8
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:28
Jaan Kenbrovin 3:26


Well I've learnt one thing today at least, terrorism and racism are the same thing.

Mike Oxsaw 9:24 Tue Sep 8
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Capitol Man 4:40 Tue Sep 8

And that observation is based on how many years of living and working within an Islamic nation/state/society?

Capitol Man 4:40 Tue Sep 8
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Not really the same thing are they though Kenny.

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