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twoleftfeet 10:27 Fri Feb 5
The U23s aren’t very good are they!
5-1 down after 70 minutes to Brighton, Alves sent off after 7 minutes.

Mipo scored though.

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Alfs 2:15 Sat Feb 13
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Every boy's dream is to come on at Old Trafford in the FA cup when your side is one down - and to score a screaming equaliser and then the winning penalty.

He had the chance!

That's what's so disappointing.

Sir Alf 10:42 Fri Feb 12
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Well we better hope Moyes can get "blood from a stone" and bring another 1 or 2 into the first team from the yoofs pretty soon. Just seen the latest , early positioning article for no funds in summer for Moyesiah from GSB via their mouthpiece the "Tanked Up", urine sodden Hugh Southon:

https://www.claretandhugh.info/hammers-could-write-off-another-30m-this-summer/

Lertie Button 9:52 Fri Feb 12
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Yup and the other lot are bang average as well.

Salvation isn't coming from the youth setup any time soon

Johnson 7:45 Fri Feb 12
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Rossal 4:36 Fri Feb 12

He might not be as highly regarded but after seeing one against Doncaster and the highlights against whoever Bolton played versus Mipo wandering around like a lost sheep and then giving it away when he did get it I know which one I'd prefer right now.

The quality of the opposition doesn't matter, the player's own movement, intelligence, desire all show through and the two players on first showing seem quite far apart.

Mipo can't even say he was overawed by it being Man Utd, he used to play for them.

Let's give him time, but after that showing I'd be surprised if Mipo is seen for a bit until he notches a few more against Tower Hamlets U15 or whoever it is he's been smashing at youth level

Rossal 5:24 Fri Feb 12
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Eerie, sounds like you did after 30 seconds

Eerie Descent 4:51 Fri Feb 12
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Apart from Vexed, but that's hardly a surprise.

Eerie Descent 4:50 Fri Feb 12
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Who's writing him off, Rossal? You're a proper doughnut at times, it was judging him on that game, and anyone who knows football could see he was a rabbit in headlights, however no one has said he won't eventually become a good player have they?

Vexed 4:39 Fri Feb 12
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Mipo has a nice touch but nothing else about him. The other lad had effort and desire but controlled the ball further than Mipo could be arsed to kick it. Neither are the answer yet and I'd be surprised if either of them made it. We probably should have bought a striker you know.

Rossal 4:36 Fri Feb 12
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Yeah the kid come on and had a mare. But he has quality, had been banging them in for the 23s aged 18. I wont write him off after 30 seconds

And Johnson I dont think the lad that went to Bolton is as highly regarded. I know he scored against Donny but he didnt look that impressive

Johnson 3:06 Fri Feb 12
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The lad we sent to Bolton looks to have far more about him so how comes we fucked him off and left the clearly unready Mipo to patch up the inevitable Antonio and Yarmo injury absence instead?

Very poor squad management by Moyes.

Eerie Descent 3:04 Fri Feb 12
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Rossal 2:12 Fri Feb 12

I'm not sure if you know what happened Rossal, but coming on as sub then getting subbed is a very, very rare occurrence, and only happens in 'spectacular' circumstances.

He was given a chance, and he got dragged off after coming on as sub. I said out loud as soon as I saw him run like a headless chicken 'this lad ain't ready at all'. And so it proved. Hardly fucking spectacular you wally.

Given the rep he's got, he could play the next game and be brilliant. I'm going to guess he won't even be on the bench.

the exile 2:32 Fri Feb 12
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Yes, the U23s have had a dodgy season so far, but that can mainly be put down to several key players being either injured or out on loan. Coventry is only just back from a long injury - he is one who could make it, I think. Ashby is going to be a player, but is still out injured. Baptiste has certainly got something about him but could probably do with time on loan. Nobody else has mentioned the left back Longelo - very good going forward.

Rossal 2:12 Fri Feb 12
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"but I could tell after watching him for 30 seconds that he did not have a clue what to do."

Even by WHO standards that is spectacular. Give him a chance not like he was up against 2 shit centre backs was it

Eerie Descent 1:53 Fri Feb 12
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Don't forget, we also sold Diangana for good money, he would've been part of the 1st team squad had he not been sold.

Eerie Descent 1:50 Fri Feb 12
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Players move to different academies all the time, that's an irrelevant point. The fact we have 2 players from the Academy is the squad (Rice/Johnson) is a massive step from having ZERO since Tomkins over a decade ago, especially as one of them is looking like being world class.

I've really not wanted to jump on the lad's back, but Mipo looked like he'd never set foot on a football pitch before. I get nerves, our style etc, but I could tell after watching him for 30 seconds that he did not have a clue what to do. That's a lack of natural football intelligence, regardless of age. Still, let's hope he comes good.

Side of Ham 1:32 Fri Feb 12
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Athletico Easthamico 1:51 Thu Feb 11

Got Rice through that, so I think it's here to stay as their youth strategy.....

daveyg 1:26 Fri Feb 12
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Sir Alf
Some good thoughts there
Mipo does have good pace, you can watch extended highlights of the U23's on the offical website. It's more than just the goals.
I just find it amazing that Afolayan was allowed to leave when he would of been more than useful especially with Moyes having not seen Mipo much in the flesh. I thought his goal against Doncaster showed his intelligence and that is quite often displayed in the U23's in several roles.
Of the players you mentioned I think Alese has to really impress out on loan but I think he'll be let go. Baptiste has great skill and is composed and mature for his age. Coventry I feel will be let go,he's a good neat player like Cullen but will go out on loan for a year in the summer or be sold for a small fee. Ashby will only get a chance if Fredericks leaves and I hope this is the case as Ashby is a player to watch, he's got great energy and his technique is excellent.
Holland may get a chance from the bench , Moyes should use the injuries to asses him now otherwise is goodbye in the summer,he was kept on instead of going out on loan in the last window for some reason. Hope Moyes can change but I doubt it.

Sir Alf 2:00 Thu Feb 11
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Mipo will get more chances and tbh Yarmalenko was struggling and in fact anyone in that game playing upfront would have struggled. We hardly had any possession and a young lad up against 2 international CBs and one ( Maguire ) a lump and a half.

That said, one thing that was a tad disappointing is that Mipo lacked any real pace or at least it appeared that way. I am one that bores on about that all over the team but especially upfront. Now someone like Ings does not possess much either so its not 100% critical but him being young ( Mipo I mean ) he lacks the physical strength too so what a surprise when he cannot keep the ball the few times it came his way.

Anyway, getting back to the U23s, my take is those that have a chance of getting to the next level ( first team squad ) are Baptiste, Ashby, Alese, the other lad from the Doncaster game, Coventry and Holland? Those that have been sent out on loan. Of course probably only 1 or 2 or maybe none of them will progress to first team level but the loans our are intended as that final test. Mipo could do with that based on what we saw this week. Or if his prowess is finishing ( like Ings etc) maybe as others say, and I think Moyes would have done this ordinarily without the striker crisis ( self inflicked ), he gets 5, 10, 15 mins towards the end of games?

Anyway, I have fingers crossed that Alese, Ashby and Baptiste can make it an exceptional crop as in preseason friendlies they seemed to have the physical strength needed, good passing and technique etc. Of course they are only friendlies and only few minutes but hope springs eternal.

Athletico Easthamico 1:53 Thu Feb 11
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Where's Alfie Lewis and Conor Coventry?

Athletico Easthamico 1:51 Thu Feb 11
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Got Dan Kemp from Chelsea and now he's at Orient.

Academy seems shit. Getting all the leftovers FFS.

Sven Roeder 1:41 Thu Feb 11
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Mentioned earlier they sent Dapo & Alese out on loan last week
Dapo is 23 so should be making an impact if he ever will.
Alese is the one who played preseason (Wycombe or Ipswich?) & think is still 18/19

Cardoso has gone out but thats with an option so dont reckon he will be back
Holland I am guessing is still injured .... seems permanent for him so reckon he will be moved on

Dont really know the rest but maybe those who watch them can advise.
Have always said we should be stalking the youths of Chelsea , Arsenal etc for prospects in their industrial factory of players.
Rice is obviously the jewel we found in their bins but we missed a trick with Lamptey going to Brighton.

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