WHO Poll
Q: 2021/22 What competition should we prioritise this season?
a. The league is our bread & butter, so this year let's have a club sandwich
24%
  
b. We're owed an FA Cup after Gerrard nicked our last one in 06, our name's on it in 22
9%
  
c. A bye to the League Cup 3rd round gives us a good start, let's make it count
5%
  
d. The Europa is our best ticket to the Champions League, this is the one
36%
  
e. What's wrong with you, let's do the lot, has the quadruple ever been done
25%
  



Jonah Lomas 10:58 Mon Apr 12
Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
Seeing him notch up another couple of goals (8 in 9 games), and another assist (3 in 9) along with a few other key contributions to goals along the way, got me thinking.

Has his impact on the side equalled or surpassed the impact of the Kitson/Hartson double signing?

Their impact on the side is probably the most important in recent memory up until Lingard started banging them in for fun.

Their goals saved us from certain relegation, while Lingard's goals look to be pushing us towards something we've never achieved before.

So which is the bigger achievement? Assuming we finish in the Top 4.

Are there any others of note?

Also, do I now have to rethink my opinion on the Champions League as a load of shit with too many teams designed purely to make the big clubs bigger, the rich clubs richer, and leave the rest scrabbling around for the crumbs?

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nychammer 4:39 Mon May 10
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
worst case is he is used as bait by Man Utd to get someone they covet from another team (think Kane).

Sniper 4:11 Mon May 10
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
Funny how his influence has died off a bit since the game where he was injured towards the end - I don’t think it was cramp at all

pdbis 1:53 Mon May 10
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
Impact has died off of late.

Haz 9:29 Sat May 1
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
What Lato said. Rice and Soucek will be a huge influence. Without either one of them it will not happen.

Also, some kind of European football will be essential IMO.

Lato 9:19 Sat May 1
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
I think a lot depends on the futures of Rice and Soucek.

nychammer 1:19 Sat May 1
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
I think (hope) that there is some affinity between Lingard and Moyes that has always been there and that enough has developed between himself and the Club - Certainly he and Rice seem to get along - that he will have a say on where he wants to be.
Ultimately money does talk but if the offer is right (maybe not the biggest but enough) then it will be easier to get a deal over the line.

Sven Roeder 1:17 Sat May 1
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
What another club offers is irrelevant if LIngard wants to come to us.
If we offered say £20m and he wants to come Man U will sell.
If another club (lets call them Spurs) offers £30m Man U can accept the offer but cant make Lingard sign.

Crassus 12:47 Sat May 1
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
In 7 months he can sign a deal on a Bosman with an overseas club, that will have focused all parties, of which the only one holding the trump card is Lingard
After his performances with us he will command a king's ransom, and get it - I doubt it will be with us

gph 12:07 Sat May 1
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
My feeling is that he will want to join us, but Man U would rather he didn't join a club where he fits in so well.

They won't want an upset Lingard themselves, but will try and flog him to a third club.

If we offer a reasonable amount more than any third club, he's ours.

IF

The Stoat 10:28 Fri Apr 30
Re: Jesse Lingard - no impact on the club store
Well if Dean Wind Arse says he won't stay I guess it must be true


https://www.footballfancast.com/west-ham-united-news/exclusive-dean-windass-rules-out-jesse-lingard-returning-to-west-ham-e90

Jonah Lomas 9:21 Fri Apr 16
Re: Jesse Lingard - no impact on the club store
"Bigger" clubs probably wouldn't be swayed by a purple patch with West Ham though, would they?

Certainly not as much as we are swayed by it.

You're right though, the stars have aligned a bit here and they may not elsewhere.

I think it is really going to come down to what Lingard wants for his footballing future......a bit part at Man Utd or another big club, or someone like West Ham being happy to build a side around his strengths. And those of the rest of our core group - Rice, Soucek etc.

I reckon we're in with a good chance of getting him permanently. His form with us has got him back into England contention, something that probably wouldn't have happened at Man Utd.

On current form, he's the mythical 20 goal a season striker.

Darby_ 8:17 Fri Apr 16
Re: Jesse Lingard - no impact on the club store
He might be going through a purple patch that won't last forever, but another reason for his good form is simply that our style of fast counter-attacking play suits him much better than Man U's style.

Because of that, he's worth more to us or another counter-attacking side than he is to Man Utd, which is why I wouldn't be surprised if a deal was done, assuming bigger clubs don't come in for him.

Mike Oxsaw 7:18 Fri Apr 16
Re: Jesse Lingard - no impact on the club store
Where's he going to slot in when he goes back to Manchester United?

They seem to have all the areas he works in covered in much more expensive players and the bean-counters won't countenance their wealth bench-warming.

Sven Roeder 3:23 Thu Apr 15
Re: Jesse Lingard - no impact on the club store
Was looking at the on sale kit for 2020/21 on the official site
You can personalise by adding number & name ....
the drop down list includes #11 Snodgrass
but not the other fellow

fraser 10:55 Wed Apr 14
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
Will - why do you say that?

According to Rio and Gary Neville he's always worked hard and done the stuff he's doing for us.

Yes of course he's having a purple patch in front of goal and it can't last forever.

Willtell 10:20 Wed Apr 14
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
For me I don't really care whether we sign Lingard or not. He will never again be the player he is today after a new contract is signed with us or whoever.

Of course we need to replace him and a striker or two have to be key acquisitions for next season especially if we get to CL or EL

Nagel 10:17 Wed Apr 14
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
Well, Alex Song was loaned to us in his final year of contract at Barcelona. It would only happen where the player is on big wages but won't get much first team football, so the club would just be throwing money away if they didn't get rid somehow.

Seems a lot more likely that he'd be a squad player at Man Utd next season rather than not used at all, but Lingard might kick up a fuss about that too as he'd obviously want to be a 1st choice player in the shop window to get a big money contract if he goes on a free.

If Solskjær wants to avoid any issues then the loan fee plus wages for Lingard would be about £10m so not to be sniffed at. All unlikely I know, but still best case scenario for us I reckon.

Sven Roeder 9:29 Wed Apr 14
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
Yes, Lingard COULD decide to sit at Man U for a year but cant recall any player being loaned out in that situation.
At 28 he will want to get on with his career either at Man U or at a club he chooses on a permanent move.
Definitely one of those cases where the player holds all the cards.
As said before if he wants to join us Man U will have to accept a reasonable bid even if another club offers more.

Sydney_Iron 9:25 Wed Apr 14
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
The one thing that puts me off Lingard is his agent, that Mino Raiola who also looks after Pogba and few other big names, all of whom he seems to regularly stir up trouble for, usually to get them a better deal or a transfer elsewhere and him a bigger wedge in the process.

Was reading he looks after Erling Haaland from Dortmund who he is trying to get a move to ManU, they had a fee all but agreement but then Raiola added 20 million on top of it for his cut....at that point ManU went a bit cold, hence him now rumoured to Barcelona or Man City but you would have thought all the fucking around that Pogba has been doing, they would have learned to stay clear of anyone who has this Raiola bloke as there agent!

Jonah Lomas 4:39 Wed Apr 14
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
simon.s 10:19 Tue Apr 13

You're right, it does feel like he's going to score every time he puts the shirt on. It's a bit like when Payet had a free kick around the box, it was more of a surprise when it DIDN'T go in.

simon.s 10:19 Tue Apr 13
Re: Jesse Lingard - Instant impact on the side
He seems a very good fit for the team at the mo, and the way he is playing, you expect him to score every game. Hope he has something special lined up for Chelsea.

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