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Irish Hammer 12:41 Sat Jul 10
Article : West Ham & Leeds = Major Trophy
Good luck tomorrow lads. Going to be some
Game ! Bit of a read to pass the day 😊

‘To win a tournament, you need a bit of West Ham’ – the link between West Ham, Leeds, and England success


“To win a tournament, you need a bit of West Ham,” beaming BBC presenter Gary Lineker told viewers following England’s 2-0 Euro 2020 win over Germany.

Pundit Rio Ferdinand agreed, noticeably praising West Ham midfielder Declan Rice’s performance — and considering Gareth Southgate’s side are now on the brink of history, it is worth remembering how the club’s players have previously been a good omen for the national team.

The Wembley Stadium faithful chorused “It’s Coming Home” following Wednesday’s semi-final win over Denmark — but for the past 55 years, West Ham supporters have also been boisterous and somewhat jocular in reminding others that their beloved side basically won the World Cup for England in 1966.

The England men’s team have never won a major tournament without a West Ham player, and on the sole occasion when they were victorious, the club had Martin Peters, Geoff Hurst and Bobby Moore were in the team. Hurst — who remains the only man to score a hat-trick in a World Cup final — and Peters both scored in the memorable 4-2 final win over West Germany. Of the 11 goals England scored during that tournament, their West Ham players got five (four for Hurst, one for Peters). Also, when England reached the semi-finals of the European Championship in 1968, they lost to Yugoslavia, with Peters and Moore the two West Ham players in the starting XI.

The World Cup statue of Moore, Peters, Hurst (and Everton’s Ray Wilson, depicted helping carry captain Moore and the Jules Rimet trophy shoulder-high in the post-match celebrations), which was unveiled in 2003, is located on Barking Road, a stone’s throw from the former site of West Ham’s old Upton Park home.

On Thursday afternoon, that bit of east London was fairly quiet, the locals perhaps waiting in anticipation for Sunday’s final before they descend on the streets, waving their England flags with Rice’s name emblazoned on the back of their replica jerseys.

Rice has been carrying the flag for the club this summer and, providing he starts Sunday’s final against Italy, looks set to cap off a terrific tournament. He has been in the XI every game so far and a key player for manager Gareth Southgate — the fact England have only conceded one goal has largely been due to his midfield partnership with Kalvin Phillips. Their standout performance was against Germany, where they nullified Toni Kroos’ impact and sent him into international retirement. Phillips also provided the assist for Raheem Sterling’s winning goal in the opening game against Croatia, while Rice came close to scoring as Ukraine were swept aside in the quarter-finals.

It is not the first time we have seen a fruitful England partnership between West Ham and Leeds United players. Moore and Jack Charlton were the central defensive pair during the 1966 World Cup and remained good friends after they retired. The duo were two of eight players to play all 570 minutes in that tournament. Rice has amassed 465 minutes, seventh-most by an England player, while Phillips has registered 545, the third-highest.

One of the anecdotes from Moore’s autobiography is that photographers swarmed him in the dressing room before the final.

“This is the most important game of my life and look at this lot. I can’t even start getting changed yet,” he said to partner Charlton.

Following this week’s semi-final triumph, the photographers had even more reason to capture the jubilation on the faces of Rice and company.

Following the 2-1 extra-time win, England’s official Twitter account posted a photo of Rice and Phillips celebrating, captioning it with ‘What can you say about these two?’

On the eve of the tournament, Phillips had only just recovered from a shoulder injury, and it appeared likely Jordan Henderson would regain his place in the team. Although the Liverpool midfielder scored as a substitute in that 4-0 win against Ukraine, Rice and Phillips’ impressive form has kept him out of the starting XI.

Tony Carr, the former academy director at West Ham, believes the duo have proven their doubters wrong.

“It’s nice to see that connection continue between West Ham and England,” he tells The Athletic.

“A lot of West Ham players have played for England. The likes of Johnny Byrne, Martin Peters, Bobby Moore and others after them in the golden-generation era, like Joe Cole, Michael Carrick, Rio Ferdinand and Frank Lampard.

“We’ve always had a link with England and we’ve always produced players that have been good enough to play for the national team. I’m so proud Declan has been able to follow in their footsteps.

“Phillips and Rice are very similar and they’ve both done an excellent job for England. No one would have suggested at the start of the tournament that Rice and Philips should be the preferred midfield partnership. But they’re perfect for the role, and once again, we have a lovely link between West Ham and Leeds. In 1966, it was Moore and Charlton, and now it’s Rice and Phillips.”

Although their achievement on July 30, 1966 was the highlight of their sons’ careers, Moore and Peters’ parents could not attend the World Cup final. They watched it on TV, along with an estimated 32.3 million people.

Peters, who passed away in December 2019, had sold his two complimentary tickets to famous tout Stan Flashman — something he would later regret.

Rice’s family have attended all five games England have played at Wembley Stadium in the tournament so far. After the win over Germany, the midfielder’s seven-year-old nephew, Blake, could not contain his excitement and danced to the classic Freed From Desire by Gala in the hospitality area where all the families congregate.

The squads of yesteryear who continuously fell short of expectations at major tournaments now feels like a distant memory.

Former England managers Sven-Goran Eriksson, Steve McClaren and Fabio Capello struggled to get the best out of midfield pair Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard, with the former occasionally playing on the left flank. Now, ahead of just the men’s team’s second-ever major final, the future appears to be bright with 22-year-old Rice and Phillips, 25, excelling in the heart of their midfield.

“A lot of people wrote us off,” Rice has told the official England podcast. “For some reason, a lot of people compare us, between Leeds and West Ham. I feel like Leeds and West Ham fans have now connected together and become like friends this summer. Me and Kalv have always been great friends. I love playing with him. You see how good he is for Leeds in the Premier League.

“Every time there is something on social media, we send it to each other on WhatsApp and buzz off it. We’re really good mates. I want him to succeed as much as I want myself to succeed.”

Come the final whistle against Italy on Sunday, maybe that connection between Leeds and West Ham will have grown even stronger still.

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BRANDED 7:29 Sat Jul 10
Re: Article : West Ham & Leeds = Major Trophy
I would say you need the UNITEDS

Mex Martillo 7:28 Sat Jul 10
Re: Article : West Ham & Leeds = Major Trophy
In someways Gareth has built the team around them, I think Rice’s position was never in doubt, unlike Phillips.
I think Gareth has seen how Moyes has Rice and West Ham playing and decided to do the same, but at times more conservative than Moyes, especially at the start of the tournament. This has made it easier for Rice to do his job and made England better.
They should do the job on tomorrow.
Thanks Irish

lab 3:55 Sat Jul 10
Re: Article : West Ham & Leeds = Major Trophy
Thanks Irish .





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