WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
19%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Keep dreaming 6:18 Sun Sep 18
Moyes Out
Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore.
I'm fed up, we can do much better

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Manuel 1:42 Fri Mar 1
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No I totally agree, I'm pleased Steidten is here too as it means the club is at least trying to go in the right direction and yes he has a good rep in the game and we have every right to be optimistic, but he still needs to prove himself, the same as anyone joining a new company in any industry, past reputations can count for nothing if you don't deliver. Let's be honest many are creaming themselves over him just because he isn't Moyes and he may be the man who ultimately gets Moyes out, is European and wears nice scarfs. Yea, prove will be in the pudding, but fingers crossed he will take us in the right direction.

I would file O'Neil under the same category as Silva and Emery, ie modern day coach, lives and breathes the game, fine attention to detail etc. Got a feeling he could go onto big things, he won't come here though, apart from anything else we don't go for in-work coaches.

Eerie Descent 1:31 Fri Mar 1
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Manuel 11:44 Fri Mar 1

I didn't want to elaborate on that point, as I'd bored everyone enough, but since you've asked, I'll explain.

I'm not being starry eyed over Steinden, he's proven nothing with us so far and the proof will be in the pudding long term. But we have brought him in to take the club in a direction, and personally I'd rather the man who has his reputation, interviews with Chelsea, nicknamed the pearl diver etc, making the big football decisions. He's the one who will have an extensive data and knowledge of European football, I'm not saying it would guarantee success, but I'd be happy if he had identified someone specific to work with going forward.

As much as some will laugh as I've been one of the early Moyes out'ers, but I actually get right behind any new appointment we make, try to see the positives and hope it works out, I would do if we got Potter in, I'd still get on board and give him a chance. But that doesn't mean I won't change my mind if I don't like what I'm seeing over a decent enough amount of time.

I do like Gary O'Neill, and would be on board with that, but wouldn't be my top choice. And any gimp suggesting he plays the same way as Moyes is an idiot. I'd have him and Howe just below Slot & Silva, just personal preference, but would be happy with any of them.

Fauxstralian 12:09 Fri Mar 1
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Said earlier that when Paqueta was understandably rested after 75mins at 4-1 it was the perfect opportunity to give Scarles and Earthy 15mins on the pitch
Saw the interview with the kid Danns who scored twice for Liverpool in the cup match and he was like every Christmas had come at once ...greatest day of his life he said
That opportunity energises him and every other youth player at the club. Plus probably rubs off on the senior players to see such enthusiasm

If we do progress in Europe trying to flog every 1st team player by playing them every week and NOT rotating them with youngsters will ruin any small chance we have

Takashi Miike 11:48 Fri Mar 1
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watching liverpool recently and how klopp integrates his young players, it just strengthens my wish for the jock twat to disappear as soon as possible. he's admitted he has no interest in one of the best group of youngsters in the country and there's no future for anyone outside his favourites clique while he's picking the team

Manuel 11:44 Fri Mar 1
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ED - Good post that, enjoyed reading it and couldn't disagree with anything, except until possibly your last paragraph.

Now it's probably me just being cynical, surely not, and Steidten may well be some footballing genius as everyone on here has assumed he is, but personally I find it all a bit cringe and will judge his work over a couple of years rather than hero worship the bloke after only being here for 5 minutes. You say you will be onboard with whoever he brings in, very sweet that, but that will only last until he starts losing a load of games, right?

What about O'Neil (O'Wall)?

Willtell 11:42 Fri Mar 1
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The biggest problem over the choice of managers is Sullivan. We have lurched from inexperienced Zola who I thought did OK on a nothing budget for 2 seasons.

No Sullivan wanted success so appointed CL finalist Grant who promptly relegated us. Boring old Sam Allardyce got us back to PL and frustrated the hell out of fans. Four seasons and in comes popular Bilic and a 7th place followed by relegation troubles brought a safety first manager in David Moyes for a 6 month stint to avoid relegation.

It was close so Sullivan returned to an ambitious signing by appointing PL & twice FL Cup winning Manuel Pellegrini. After spending big the relegation threats returned in Pellegrini's second season. So back to a known safe pair of hands in David Moyes whose record is 6th, 7th and 14th places; 3 years of European football; a semi-final and a final win with a trophy for the bare cabinet. Currently 8th place and still in Europe with all the extra revenue that brings...

It's easy to see why Sullivan is currently shitting a brick. He's about to let the most successful manager he's ever had go and replace him with who?

Eerie Descent 11:28 Fri Mar 1
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Potter's football flatters to deceive for me, and he comes across as a bit flakey, hearing about him talk about how he suffered when he left Chelsea, affecting his mental health whilst on £9mil a year, and yes I get the argument about that sort of stuff, but he was only a manager of a football club, if you can't handle that pressure whilst on that money, then maybe go and stack shelves for £9 an hour.

Lopetegui a big no from me, Wolves seemed boring to me, and we need someone younger on the up. I've seen Van Nistelrooy mentioned, why exactly?

Tuchel is another one I just don't think would be a good fit, I get that he's managed top clubs, but he seems like an excuse maker to me when things aren't going his way, which seems to happy often, blaming everything but himself publicly, and I can't stomach another one of them.

We could've got Alonso, if we would have sacked Moyes when we should have in November 2022, or in the summer, but that ship has sailed. We also won't get the Lisbon manager.

I don't watch Dutch football, but everything I've read about Arne Slot he seems very impressive. Has a bit of arrogance that I think you need with managing us, but not arrogant in that he'll think he's doing us a favour, and I think we get him if we want. He'd be the one I'd be most on board with.

I've always want us to go for Marco Silva in the past, I like the way his teams play, I like the man as well how he comes across, one of them that takes it all on his own shoulders, and hearing soundbites from players, he's one of those that lives and breathes the job, of the Emery ilk. I reckon with decent dough to spend and a club like ours, he'd take us up a few notches. Would also be a safe pair of hands for those 'be careful what you wish for' cunts.

In saying that, if it was Steiden picking, then I'd be on board with whoever he wants. I'm not bothered whether he chose Alonso or not, but he's clearly a bloke that knows European football better than anyone else at the club, and if he's identified someone and we get him, that's good enough for me.

Nagel 9:45 Fri Mar 1
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Yeah, would be surprised if Howe keep his job at the end of the season, which could be good news for us. Newcastle have had injuries all over the team but they were doing reasonably well despite that, until the goalkeeper got injured. Both of their backups have been awful when I've seen them. We're talking Roberto levels of bad. Since Pope got injured they've won 3 league games in 12, conceding 31! Before that they'd conceded 14 in 14.

Manuel 3:43 Fri Mar 1
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RBshorty 7:22 Thu Feb 29

Not so sure, I did hear it somewhere that Ratcliffe is in charge of all football related matters/decisions, but who knows.

Chairman Alf 2:50 Fri Mar 1
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I see that the Geordies are already questioning Howe and claiming that he can’t take them to the next level. The fickleness of some fans!

Massive Attack 12:50 Fri Mar 1
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I'm open to a few potential new managers but I'm not quite feeling the Potter option. I like him and respect what he dine before Chelsea but I did feel like he ballsed that right up. Yes mitigating circumstances with regards to Chelseas new ownership but I still wasn't convinced by him even taking that in to account. I want to see him do well at another Club before deciding if he's what we're ultimately looking for.

It's the De Zerbis, Howes, Fonseca, Silvas, Tuchels of the world that really interest me as our next possible manager, depending on how things pan out with availability and what not. That list ain't exhaustive either.

Stubbo 9:32 Thu Feb 29
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Potter's problem at Brighton was largely they played great football but couldn't score any goals, the change in fortune under De Zerbi directly attributable to the change in fortune in front of goal.

Potter also couldn't get his team to score goals at Chelsea either. Whether he got them playing nice football, I'm not sure.

But it seems like maybe he's good at playing nice possession football, but without output (which would not go down well here). For me he's not the answer. Someone like Arne Slot is exactly the kind of guy we should be taking a punt on...much more a Postecoglu style appointment.

That Sullivan doesn't fancy Potter means it's unlikely to happen anyway.
The irony he thinks Potter is a bang average manager who relies on his recruitment, but then witnesses our hopelessness without Paqueta but can't as a result see the same thing in Moyes.

Nagel 8:42 Thu Feb 29
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To be fair, his successor at Brighton hasn't made Potter's achievements there look too great at all. In De Zerbi's first season they finished 6th, 3 places higher and scoring 30 more goals than the previous season and were FA cup semi-finalists as well, and this season they look like qualifying for Europe again. That's a pretty huge step up from where Potter had them, although perhaps he may well have achieved similar if he'd stayed.

RBshorty 7:29 Thu Feb 29
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What sounds more logical is Sullivan (Who will have the final say.) Not fancying Potter. Because he believed all the success he enjoyed at Brighton. Was down to their computer. And not Potter.!

RBshorty 7:22 Thu Feb 29
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Lee. Doesn’t matter how much wedge Sir Jim got. The Glazer’s still have the final say. (Bit like our own Kretinsky.)

Jasnik 7:20 Thu Feb 29
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What again frustrated me about Moyes, we are 4 -1 up with 70 mins to go and he still wont try out any of the youth.

Then brings Johnson on in the 94th min, what is the point.

Manuel 7:18 Thu Feb 29
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Oh OK. So we should scrub Potter off as a possibility based on Man Utd possibly wanting him. Sound logic :-)

RBshorty 7:12 Thu Feb 29
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And I’m saying. Both ManU and Sir Jim ain’t exactly great. You may agree. Or not.? But I wouldn’t sweat it. Not until we make the change.

Nagel 7:09 Thu Feb 29
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Arne Slot does sound perfect for us, or at least those of us who want pretty much the opposite of what we get from Moyes' team on the field. Apparently, Slot likes high intensity, to attack and keep possession or always press when without the ball, and he likes younger players with high levels of fitness and energy.

He's not that experienced but done well in his 5 seasons so far.

AZ:

1st season - joint top of league with 9 games left when season cancelled due to COVID.

2nd season - undefeated in 10 games then sacked when it became known that Feyenoord had agreed for him to take over in the summer.

Overall, highest points per game of any coach in the club's history.

Feyenoord:

1st season - finished 3rd (2 places and 12 points better than the previous season). Beaten by Roma in Conference League final. Dutch Manager of the Year.

2nd season - finished 1st (only Feyenoord's 2nd league title this century), after having had to change half the first team who were sold off to richer clubs. Dutch Manager of the Year.

3rd season - Currently 2nd. Finished 3rd in Champs League to Atletico Madrid & Lazio, then lost on penalties to Roma in Europa League playoff.

Lee Trundle 7:06 Thu Feb 29
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I'd quite happily follow the footsteps of Ratcliffe, seeing as he's worth $16.4 billion.

Manuel 7:02 Thu Feb 29
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Shorty - Wtf you going on about? Someone mentioned Potter as a possible replacement for Moyes and I mentioned that Jim Ratcliffe is a fan of him, hence he may end up there. That was it.

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