Keep dreaming 6:18 Sun Sep 18
Moyes Out
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Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore.
I'm fed up, we can do much better
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Side of Ham
7:55 Thu Feb 2
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The only plus side to relegation is the fact Sky pretty well drop the club like a stone until the business end of the season.....it feels like you get your club back for a while.....until you start missing those 'big games' that Moyes gave up on from the get go......
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Texas Iron
7:53 Thu Feb 2
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It was clear after the Brighton game...end of last season Moyes had lost the plot...
Owners should have been looking for a replacement then...
And I said so at the time...
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Takashi Miike
7:45 Thu Feb 2
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*too*
what makes me laugh is the ones that now change their tune and pretend they wanted something different before the world cup break. absolute fucking clowns
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Takashi Miike
7:43 Thu Feb 2
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"there are going to be a fair few on here absolutely delighted if we do go down."
do you think the few who wanted him sacked in October, it was because we wanted relegation? no, it's the complete opposite you braindead cunt. you can thank all the "Lets wait until after the World Cup" idiots if the inevitable happens. the reason I moan is for logical reasons, that your top dim to realise what's occurring isn't my problem
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Side of Ham
7:37 Thu Feb 2
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We may need our own players to play a game to how they feel a game should be played ie: fuck off his instructions.....we may get that desperate....
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Sir Alf
5:48 Thu Feb 2
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Moyes just won’t try to change anything. He will double down on his tactics despite almost every team knowing how to exploit them.
He’s not very bright in that sense but not knowing how to play any other way is perhaps because he was at Everton for 90% of his career? He’s the classic case of 30 X 1 year of experience. Just does the same thing over and over which also, as we all know, is the definition of insanity when u expect a different result.
He relies on Paul Nevin now that Irvine has gone and he is not appearing to come up with any plan b either
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Stevethehammer
5:05 Thu Feb 2
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The players have to take some blame of course they do, they are the ones out there not performing.
The board in my honest opinion can't take much of the slack this time, we have spent money in areas that Moyes identified and wanted.
Moyes is the one in my opinion where all the fucking blame lies. His in game management is appalling, his substitutions don't make sense, he doesn't utilise the squad at the best of times, rushs players back from injury ie Zouma and he will never ever change his style or approach. He is a reactional manager rather than a pro active one and he is still dining out on the Lyon and Sevilla results. I was firmly in the Moyes in camp, however ever since losing at home to Leicester and after the world cup, seeing no change whatsoever, its time to fuck off.
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Rossal
4:54 Thu Feb 2
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Who on earth would be absolutely delighted with relegation??
Those 3 all deserve to be cunted off as they have all been absolutely dogshit all season
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Lee Trundle
4:54 Thu Feb 2
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I was very early with the criticism of Moyes.
I won't be delighted if we go down.
I think things will start to look very rosy for us if we do somehow manage to stay up, with a new owner and a new manager.
It's pretty much impossible for them to do worse than the ones we currently have.
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Manuel
4:51 Thu Feb 2
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I know what is very clear and that's there are going to be a fair few on here absolutely delighted if we do go down. Pretty much every post on here now is cunting off either Moyes, the players, the owners etc, it's all become very tedious, predictable and boring.
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Stevethehammer
4:47 Thu Feb 2
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Personally I can't see a win in any of those games
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Vexed
4:46 Thu Feb 2
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I think realistically we are going to get relegated this season due to stupidity compounded by further avoidable stupidly.
We could quite conceivably get zero points from that set of games. I see no more than five points if we get a bit of luck.
We absolutely fucking deserve it too, club is run like a total shitshow top to bottom.
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Manuel
4:43 Thu Feb 2
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Rossal - Don't misquote me son, I said at this point it's guesswork if we actually go down or not, which it is. Of course we're in the shit, ffs.
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Rossal
4:40 Thu Feb 2
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Our main issue is the next 2 months, our games are as follows
Newcastle
Chelsea
Spurs
Forest
Brighton
Villa
Man City
So going with the assumption that run brings no more than 7-10 points that leaves us bang in trouble for the remaining few months. Assuming that Moyes gets sacked somewhere in that run who do we go and get in?
All the teams around us (bar Everton) have new signings to give them a boost and to get points in Feb and March whilst we limp along with Moyes and the same old squad.
I don't believe its guesswork, you can use logic to point at us being knee deep in shit come April.
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Manuel
4:04 Thu Feb 2
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Canning - I know you're not digging me out, how the fuck would I know why, lol.
My point still stands regardless, we probably have the best side down there, which is why most pundits and media etc think we will stay up as do the bookies.
As I said before, there is way too far to go still before being certain of anything. At this point it's no more than guesswork, simple as that.
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Stevethehammer
3:59 Thu Feb 2
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The problem we are going to have now is rotation I think.
Moyes doesn't like to rotate the squad and bring everyone in to play their part be it in the cups or within the league, he has form for doing it apart from absolute dead rubbers.
It will be the same usual team with a few tweaks but having a few players in the squad such as Downes who probably won't get a look in and someone like Emerson who Moyes will blow hot and cold with, it will create division within the team.
Players such as Areola can't be happy with the situation and Moyes never changes the vast majority of the team to make a statement, such as play bad, out of form you won't play etc.
It cannot be good for you to go to training day in day out knowing you aren't going to get picked or even get minutes from the bench as again. Moyes doesn't like to make changes.
On paper we have a team that will survive no problem, the only thing is and the Common denominator... Moyes
We are on a decent little run of form but you just know at some point he will go back to his usual tactics, team selection etc and we will be in the shit then. I don't trust him to get us out of it.
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CanningTownWA
3:45 Thu Feb 2
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Manuel
You have highlighted the two big issues :
“We have the best squad”, the question is so why are we nearly bottom?
“When fully fit”, so again why didn’t we buy anyone apart from broken Ings and shipping out Dawson?
The answer is Moyse to both and that’s why he is going to cost us.
Not digging you out or criticising btw
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Manuel
2:36 Thu Feb 2
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Steve - Yep, we're in a battle for sure. I might be wrong, but we still probably have the best side down there, when everyone is fit, or most anyway, and that is where our hope lies?
Also, being in Europe and Thurs/Sun games could work against us.
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Stevethehammer
2:22 Thu Feb 2
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Same response
Forest have signed so many players, I don't see how anyone can be happy there. Literally about 25 players signed in 2 windows and they have even shifted out one signed in the summer.
The fat Greek is having a field day with his money but I don't think it will come back to bite him on his massive arse. They will be alright
Leeds I think will be good especially with Gnoto playing well
Southampton seem to have something about them
Everton could well turn it around under Dyche
Bournemouth I think will struggle
Leicester will be just about okay
Wolves will pull well clear
Us.... Well don't look too promising does it
CanningTownWA 9:32 Thu Feb 2
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CanningTownWA
2:14 Thu Feb 2
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I posted this on The January Transfer thread
As a summary on the clubs fighting relegation:
Forest, Southampton, Wolves - 6 new players
Bournemouth - 5 new players
Leeds - 4 new players
Leicester - 3 new players
West Ham -1 new player (- Dawson)
Everton - 0 new palyers (-Gordon)
It would not be a surpise if that's how the league table ended up
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Side of Ham
2:07 Thu Feb 2
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Nick QQQ, even the twoleftfeets amongst our support won't be able to argue those facts.....which most of us have been complaining about for over a year now.......
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