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by southbankbornnbred
12 Feb 2026, 09:46
Forum: Football
Topic: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Replies: 1217
Views: 17421

Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

David LE" wrote: 12 Feb 2026, 09:30 Lets hope that Alvarez can do a job on Forest at Fenerbahce next week
Surely we want Forest to thrash Fene, don’t we? We want them to play as many games in Europe as possible. We want them knackered and on their knees by March.
by southbankbornnbred
12 Feb 2026, 09:43
Forum: Football
Topic: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Replies: 1217
Views: 17421

Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

At this rate, Forest are going to have more managers on their payroll than Chelsea. And those fuckers are probably still paying Tommy Docherty.
by southbankbornnbred
12 Feb 2026, 09:40
Forum: Football
Topic: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Replies: 1217
Views: 17421

Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

If Spurs were smart they would employ Dyche until the end of the season. He might not take it if he has strong feelings about Forest having started out with them and just managed them. Money could well talk though. They should at least contact him as that would be the sensible thing to do. Hopefull...
by southbankbornnbred
12 Feb 2026, 07:49
Forum: Football
Topic: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Replies: 1217
Views: 17421

Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

Looking at our remains games, I think we might need at least one big result against a “major” side, even taking account of our better form. We’ve got potentially winnable/points games against Bournemouth, Fulham, Wolves, Palace, Everton, Brentford and Leeds etc. There are points in there, of course....
by southbankbornnbred
11 Feb 2026, 13:31
Forum: Football
Topic: West Ham vs Man Utd | PL | 10.2.26 | Predictions & Match Thread
Replies: 344
Views: 4687

Re: West Ham vs Man Utd | PL | 10.2.26 | Predictions & Match Thread

Despite the massive downer of their late equaliser, though, I was a little more upbeat about things after the game. Our team put in a shift yesterday. Full-bloodied, and it wasn’t always pretty. But we will need more of that against good sides for the rest of the season. It was good to get at least ...
by southbankbornnbred
11 Feb 2026, 13:29
Forum: Football
Topic: West Ham vs Man Utd | PL | 10.2.26 | Predictions & Match Thread
Replies: 344
Views: 4687

Re: West Ham vs Man Utd | PL | 10.2.26 | Predictions & Match Thread

The 7 minutes injury time that wasn't 7 mins killed us obviously.  Haven't seen their goal again but looked a good goal that maybe we could have stopped by reacting quicker? It's a bit harsh to quibble too much really. I thought the defence had another impressive game. Disasi did get caught a littl...
by southbankbornnbred
10 Feb 2026, 22:39
Forum: Football
Topic: West Ham vs Man Utd | PL | 10.2.26 | Predictions & Match Thread
Replies: 344
Views: 4687

Re: West Ham vs Man Utd | PL | 10.2.26 | Predictions & Match Thread

So fucking frustrating.

But that was a decent point against a much-improved Man Utd side.

Saw some serious effort - and full-on commitment - from the players today. More of it.
by southbankbornnbred
10 Feb 2026, 07:43
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

If we get relegated this season it will be because we were too bad to stay up and nothing at all to do with the stadium. I say that because the previous two occasions we have been relegated this century our home ground was our much vaunted Boleyn Ground. We go down because our ownership has not don...
by southbankbornnbred
09 Feb 2026, 07:37
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: NFL (since 2016)
Replies: 12428
Views: 185778

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Won’t bore with details this early, but that defense from Seattle was a superb throwback. Threw shapes at Maye that Rex Ryan would have been proud of. It wasn’t Buddy’s 46-Bear defense, but it was swarming. Loved it.
by southbankbornnbred
09 Feb 2026, 07:14
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: NFL (since 2016)
Replies: 12428
Views: 185778

Re: NFL (since 2016)

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 18:59
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

I’ve been clear I’d prefer a change and as a fan I’d happily spin the wheel on someone more ambitious, but that still does not make him the great enemy some paint. He is a conservative and stubborn businessman who has overseen a largely stable fifteen years in a volatile industry. That is not excit...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 16:46
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

Meanwhile, we've been left with the worst fans' experience imaginable. A terrible, soul-less athletics stadium where the action is miles away and the curvature of the Earth gets in the way of your sightlines, a giant walkway in the middle of key stands, separating fans and ruining the atmosphere. If...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 16:36
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

The reality of what Sullivan (and other board members) has done is that he bought the club cheap, intended to move us from Upton Park to the Olympic Stadium all along, then essentially sat on his asset while the Premier League grew in stature and riches, then awaited a buyer so that he can make a co...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 16:30
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

southbank I think we’re just using flexible to mean different things. You mean commercial freedom to push revenues in the stadium. I mean financial breathing room. If your fixed costs are lower than others you can plan easier, start each season from a steadier base and it’s simply a lower stress cl...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 16:06
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

I don’t disagree that stadium investment can work if the revenue uplift really covers the cost, my only point is that the cash still leaves the club each year and football is unpredictable so flexibility has value. At our level sustainability depends on football income being spent on football becau...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 15:31
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

PSR rules do not pay the bills, cash flow does. Stadium finance is still real money out of the club. I am genuinely struggling to understand the counter to that point. If tens of millions leave annually in interest and maintenance, how does that not affect what is comfortably spendable? Because, as...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 12:50
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

For as long as many of us can remember, West Ham have bounced between relegation fights and promotion pushes. In plenty of those seasons we got through because we stuck together and the place was loud when it mattered.This feels like one of those seasons where we could end up on the wrong side of t...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 12:42
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

PSR rules do not pay the bills, cash flow does. Stadium finance is still real money out of the club. I am genuinely struggling to understand the counter to that point. If tens of millions leave annually in interest and maintenance, how does that not affect what is comfortably spendable? Go away, ma...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 12:31
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

People are mixing up turnover PSR and actual spendability. PSR is about allowable losses and stadium capex training grounds and academies are largely excluded from that calculation so owning a stadium does not hit PSR the same way player spending does, but the cash cost is still real because financ...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 12:15
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: NFL (since 2016)
Replies: 12428
Views: 185778

Re: NFL (since 2016)

I'm readying myself for the game. All in on the Hawks. Can't let the Patsies win again. No.
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 12:10
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

Guys, the closest comparison to us in the Sullivan debate is Spurs, because a big part of this discussion is stadium ownership versus renting. In a similar timeframe both clubs moved into stadiums worth hundreds of millions just miles apart in London. The structural difference is simple: Spurs fund...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 11:44
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

Southbank The question is not whether ownership is better than renting, it is whether we could realistically earn more per year from owning than the 30 to 40 million annual saving we effectively have compared to the ownership costs clubs like Spurs or Everton carry. I am not convinced Sullivan and ...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 10:21
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

Capital spending on stadiums, training grounds and academies is excluded from FFP loss calculations. That’s true.What it doesn’t mean is that the cash magically exists to spend on players.If you build or own a stadium, the money still has to be paid in real life through loans, interest, maintenance...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 10:03
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

Owning the stadium is about owning an asset that depreciates but that you control. We have the deal of the century on the rent. I understand that many people dont like it. I'm more than happy where I am. The club WOULD sell better to property developers if we owned the stadium. We didn’t get the “d...
by southbankbornnbred
08 Feb 2026, 09:11
Forum: Football
Topic: Stubbornness — on all sides
Replies: 159
Views: 2527

Re: Stubbornness — on all sides

People talk about stadium ownership vs renting as if one is automatically better, but they’re just different financial models.  Spurs are often estimated to be paying £35–50m a year when you combine stadium financing and running/maintenance costs. Over 30 years that can easily run past £1bn in tota...