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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 18:44
by THUNDERCLINT
only1billybonds wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 17:48
So much of the recent unrest In Minneapolis is a result of who is in the White House.
So politically motivated violence, like terrorism?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 18:41
by THUNDERCLINT
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 17:11
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:53
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:18
And what about assault rifles?
Ah, whataboutery...let's deal with this prick first shall we?
Why did he need a laser sighted sidearm at a, I'm guessing the intent was peaceful, protest?
It's not whataboutary, should have preempted you saying something so idiotic, I haven't changed the point, talking about a different class of gun within the same frame of reference is not whataboutary, it's a valid point. Do you have a problem with guns of any class being allowed in public or what? I mentioned assault rifles as suddenly you feel a laser sight is too much, when people have been openly carrying AR-15s in MAGA protests for the last couple of years
It's not whataboutery when you start a question with "And what about... " in order to deflect rather than answer the point
You clown, that's exactly what whataboutery is.
The point I've made which your so keen to dance around but not touch is why he felt the need to take a specialised firearm to a "peaceful" protest. I never said a laser sight was " too much" I said it changes the nature of why the weapon is carried.
As for firearms in public I really couldn't care less, go fucking nuts, legalise stinger missles. I don't care.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:49
by Mr Anon
Nutsin wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 17:27
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 17:18
Amusing that the NRA and hardline republicans have pushed back against trumps claim that guns have no place at a protest. you agree with open carry or even closed laws or not? Some of you can't seem to decide
I agree with all of the above, however you need to use a little common sense with such a responsibility, don’t you agree?
Maybe we're both agreeing here, I don't believe any guns of any sort should be carried by civilians at a protest
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:48
by only1billybonds
Attention should be drawn to Nurse's post at 15.09.
Under Obama, 51 civilians died at the hands of ICE agents. These same agents received nothing but applause from the left wing media/establishment.
Obama deported more than 8 million people during his two terms.
Obama pinned a madal on Tom Homan, the Trump appointed border czar. Homan is now seen as a menace to the public.
So much of the recent unrest In Minneapolis is a result of who is in the White House.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:27
by Nutsin
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 17:18
Amusing that the NRA and hardline republicans have pushed back against trumps claim that guns have no place at a protest. you agree with open carry or even closed laws or not? Some of you can't seem to decide
I agree with all of the above, however you need to use a little common sense with such a responsibility, don’t you agree?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:18
by Mr Anon
Amusing that the NRA and hardline republicans have pushed back against trumps claim that guns have no place at a protest. you agree with open carry or even closed laws or not? Some of you can't seem to decide
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:14
by Mr Anon
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:59
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:15
Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?
Never said there was or should be.
The point you're contorting yourself to dodge is why take one to a (peaceful) protest?
Was the protest at Capitol Hill Peaceful or an incitement to violence then? plenty of guns on display there
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:11
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:11
by Mr Anon
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:53
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:18
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 14:32
A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.
A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.
And what about assault rifles?
Ah, whataboutery...let's deal with this prick first shall we?
Why did he need a laser sighted sidearm at a, I'm guessing the intent was peaceful, protest?
It's not whataboutary, should have preempted you saying something so idiotic, I haven't changed the point, talking about a different class of gun within the same frame of reference is not whataboutary, it's a valid point. Do you have a problem with guns of any class being allowed in public or what? I mentioned assault rifles as suddenly you feel a laser sight is too much, when people have been openly carrying AR-15s in MAGA protests for the last couple of years
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 17:06
by Massive Attack
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:59
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:15
Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?
Never said there was or should be.
The point you're contorting yourself to dodge is why take one to a (peaceful) protest?
Totally normal behaviour. Especially for an intensive Nurse.. *Looks nervously over in Nurse Ratcheds direction*
Geezer was half expecting a shoot-out when in the close vicinity of ICE agents. Thick as mince prat fucked about and found out, as they say.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 15:59
by THUNDERCLINT
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:15
Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?
Never said there was or should be.
The point you're contorting yourself to dodge is why take one to a (peaceful) protest?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 15:53
by THUNDERCLINT
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 15:18
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 14:32
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:45
What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight?
A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.
A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.
And what about assault rifles?
Ah, whataboutery...let's deal with this prick first shall we?
Why did he need a laser sighted sidearm at a, I'm guessing the intent was peaceful, protest?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 15:18
by Mr Anon
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 14:32
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:45
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:33
Why would you take a firearm to a vigil/protest?
And not just a regular run of the mill concealled carry straight out of the box one but one which is laser sighted...
What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight?
A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.
A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.
And what about assault rifles?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 15:15
by Fauxstralian
Is there a restriction on the type of gun someone should be allowed to carry now?
Someone should tell the NRA that they are being undermined by Republicans
Man up you soft cock commies
Not aware of Obama sending untrained masked gunmen onto the streets to shoot people dead during the course of identifying and removing illegals
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 15:10
by Nutsin
The Governor Tim Walz spoke with Trump about ICE and what’s happened and Trump told him that he will be happy to reduce ICE numbers if the police co-operate amd hand over the criminals instead of letting them back out on the street.
Trump is not going to allow the Sancguary city madness to continue.
As for Walz he’s probably trying to negotiate a pardon for his involvement in all the fraud that’s been going on where there are whistleblowers and evidence verifying he knew it was happening but allowed it because it funded the Dem party.
the Dems are rotten to the core.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 15:09
by Nurse Ratched
Bottom line, if Saint Barak of Obama was driving these deportations of illegals, no one would care.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:39
by Pub Bigot
More slave trade nonsense
£1.1 mill for a vanity project? Constantly harping on about the slave trade never the work done to stop it.
If they want to build a memorial, do it for those who lost their lives stopping human trafficking, and shame the African chieftains who sold their own people.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:35
by THUNDERCLINT
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 14:13
I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.
That's entirely the point, they don't have papers because they're, duh, fucking illegals.
And the masks and balaclavas wouldn't be necessary if they and their families weren't at risk of being doxed by scumny commies.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:32
by THUNDERCLINT
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:45
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:33
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 11:45
Yes, Trump did say the bloke murdered shouldn’t have been carrying a legal gun in a holster which was taken off him
I guess he is finally coming round to the idea that citizens walking round with guns is insane
Maybe that’s progress … or a bit more dementia
Why would you take a firearm to a vigil/protest?
And not just a regular run of the mill concealled carry straight out of the box one but one which is laser sighted...
What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight?
A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.
A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:29
by Takashi Miike
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:29
by Council Scum
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 14:28
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:54
As an American who are entitled to carry a legal weapon to the grocery store, a protest, a Charlie Kirk rally, a President Trump rally, a child care centre, a school or a football match
Anyone who says otherwise is un American , a soft cock liberal commie and should be rounded up and deported. Or shot in the back by the ICE Gestapo
But why would you feel the need to take a laser sighted firearm to a protest?
If it's all tolerant soy fed commies on a jollytheys outing why would you even think "I know I'd better take my laser sighted Sig Sauer 9mm?"
I mean, he was a nurse, wouldn't he be taking a first aid kit to help.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:28
by THUNDERCLINT
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:54
As an American who are entitled to carry a legal weapon to the grocery store, a protest, a Charlie Kirk rally, a President Trump rally, a child care centre, a school or a football match
Anyone who says otherwise is un American , a soft cock liberal commie and should be rounded up and deported. Or shot in the back by the ICE Gestapo
But why would you feel the need to take a laser sighted firearm to a protest?
If it's all tolerant soy fed commies on a jollytheys outing why would you even think "I know I'd better take my laser sighted Sig Sauer 9mm?"
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:20
by Council Scum
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 14:13
I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.
It's one step away from checkpoints and national ID cards that nearly everyone here is dead against
Easier to find someone when you know exactly where they are going to be isn't it?
Turn up at the house and they aren't there, you won't ever find them again.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 14:13
by Mr Anon
I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.
It's one step away from checkpoints and national ID cards that nearly everyone here is dead against
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jan 2026, 12:59
by Council Scum
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 12:14
Council Scum" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 11:40
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 10:09
Doesn't that perfectly describe New York at its inception?
So because a City a few hundred years ago was infested with immigrants and crime, they should all be happy to go back to that, for the sake of more immigrants who still live like it was 200 years ago?
Great, lets just go back a few hundred years and be done with it, progress is over rated anyway.
you've stopped even mentioning the "illegal" part then...No wasn't what I meant, just that New York has literally always been "infested" with immigrants, it's part of its identity. In terms of crime if there's the will to be hard on it and spend some money then you wont have to put up with it, most are there to work and keep out of trouble. Don't have an issue with deporting offending illegals, just think the currently tactics are all wrong .
Stopped mentioning? Not sure I started.
If someone is in the country illegally and a criminal I don't care how they get them out, you only need to look at home many foreign nationals due for deportation that reoffend in our country to know, that the courts/legal route simply doesn't work.
Christ we try to deport Jamaican violent and sexually violent criminals all the time and all you get is "Windrush" and "He's got a family" and they are back of the plane and reoffending within the week.
So I'd rather their tactics than ours, in 2022 alone 3000 foreign nationals reoffended over 10,000 times when they should have been kicked out.
Only 3% of those who crossed illegally in small boats from 2018-2024 have been returned.
Would love to know your way of removing them though.