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"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

"I've got an exercise bike that I use - but I don't go hell-for-leather on it for physical fitness, I use it more for the simple pleasure of the movement - I took to - and have loved ever since - cycling as soon as the stabilizers came off my first bike (about 6 days ago...). Given the fuckwits on the roads these days it seemed a better option - plus there's nowhere to ""come back from"". I haven't got around to sticking it in front of a TV and having a YouTube Tour de France POV in front of me, but I may get a fan for those ""Wind in your hair"" moments. However 30 minutes - 1 hour does rack up a few virtual kilometres and I seem to always feel better for it for the rest of the day. My contribution here, FWIW, is that you may not need to bust a gut to get benefit from exercising."

"I was watching an old clip of Tony Curtis who was an Alcoholic, he said he drank when he was stressed and that sums drinking up for me. STRESS it's a killer causes so many illnesses. I used to do weight from 14, squash, football then got Glandular fever. Started running 10 years ago for about 7 years which felt like i was getting less stressed, then got a bad viral chest infection which never recovered from fully. I did some research and I think I pushed my body exercised too much which caused mass inflammation. Listen to your body and slow down accordingly and to age."

BRANDED 2:22 Mon Oct 9 I had talking therapy that helped far more than anti depressants. For me I had so much going on in my head I couldn't see the trees for the woods but therapy broke it down to separate issues that I could manage myself and I assume running would be the same as it will clear your mind. I caned the gym when my dad died that helped

"Hope you're all doing well. Thanks also for that Branded, I've got out of the habit of running and must agree that it helped with my mental health."

Thanks for posting that wilko.

Thanks Wilko for putting this up and chim don't forget we also really appreciate your comments on this thread they are very uplifting for a lot of people take care mate

https://twitter.com/NorwichCityFC/status/1711630140227064183 Just came across this Tweet from Norwich City. I hope it's okay to post it on this thread. If not could somebody please delete it. Thanks.

"someone told me about this study yesterday. The conclusion doesn't surprise me and lots of people cant run but I'll share it anyway. Conclusions: While the interventions had comparable effects on mental health, running therapy outperformed antidepressants on physical health, due to both larger improvements in the running therapy group as well as larger deterioration in the antidepressant group. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36828150/"

"Pents, for some shitty reason I can't reply to Whomails but I meant sincerely the post below. You're an absolute inspiration."

Wow. You old leftie punk :-) Thank you very much. I echo the words of yours about this site and all its users üëç

"Pentonville, I'd like to give you a shout out too. When I first became aware of you you were, with the greatest respect, someone who anyone with a shred of empathy worried about. You had times I don't want to drag up and trigger you again when I genuinely thought we were going to lose you. Shit in Spain, shit with your mum - a situation we'd all crumble from, no matter how robust we think we are. Look at you now pal, a shining light, an empathic, sensitive man it would be an honour to call a friend. I hope it shows that any of us (including me) can turn our lives around, thanks in part to this idiotic and dysfunctional site. When the chips are down, some people on here roll their sleeves up, circle the wagons and protect our own. There has been the odd poster who has taken the piss a bit with the WHO fund but they are VERY few and far between. and shame on them. Keep up the good fight lads and stay alive - if only to piss the powers that be off. We've got the tools and I couldn't imagine two more upright creatures running the fund than Charley and Moncs. My love to you who are suffering and if you ever find yourselves in Camden I'd gladly provide a shoulder and buy you a beer."

I spoke to Block about 6 ot 7 weeks ago and he was very into family life and commitment to that and busy with work. All seemed positive but I hadn't spoke to him for a time.before that either. All seemed good to me üëç

"Just saw this. Thanks Charley. Its good to give back, the circle as it were. As chim says, we are west ham and we fight together!"

"Just saw this. Thanks Charley. Its good to give back, the circle as it were. As chim says, we are west ham and we fight together!"

"Well said Chim...fight as best as you can, get support from around you...WHO mail on here, post on here don't be afraid to ask for help and I'm sure between us we can help in some way. Also a quick reminder of the work in the background that Pentonville does, he has been an absolute prop for so many posters, that he has helped due to his own experiences he has been a rock. So on behalf of WHO Pents, thanks for all your help. Finally can somebody who knows Block well, check in to see if he is ok, haven't heard from in a while.."

"I'm not for one minute telling anyone to 'just pull yourself together' but come on, we're the West Ham family and that means that when one of us fall into a trench another goes back through enemy fire and gives him a hand up to keep him/or Debs in the fight. It's been said loads of times before that we're all here for you and would rather pay your rent for a month while you're on your arse than buy a wreath. We're all a couple of paydays from oblivion and most of us understand that. WHO, for all its faults have Charlie Farley and the incomparable Moncs as your last resort, your net if you like and that's why despite most of us being complete cunts, we/they will stop you falling through it. Don't be shy."

That is an awful lot to deal with WHUex must have a terrible time for you so glad you got back on an even keel mate and thanks for posting it

Thinks can get on top of you and it's hard to unscramble you mind My brother 10 years older than me and in poor health has just been diagnosed with lung and bone cancer. He spoke to his GP for a year about the above and ended up calling 111. I am the only one in our family he has told in confidence .

"I'd like to echo much of what WHU(exeter) says below about there always being a way out. I'd add to what he says that when you really feel at a dead end and can't see how you can go on, lay off the alcohol completely and try to get a good night sleep. The alcohol might feel it's relaxing you and sending you off but it stops you getting the REM sleep that helps you heal and resolve stressful situations. If you can get a good 8hours of non-alcohol induced sleep you stand a much better chance of thinking creatively and working stuff out and at least clearing some of the fog."

"Blimey Ex, that was a lot to go through. You seem to have found an inner strength to cope. Life throws a lot of ups and downs. We really need to remind ourselves to make the best of our short time on this planet"

"I suffered from this, that and the other as a few years ago I had over a month period, of my Mum, Dad and sister all in such bad health, that every time my phone went, it could easily have been someone telling me that one of them had died. My Mum had dementia and had a stroke, my Dad was in a diabetic type coma in hospital and my sister couldn’t cope with it and I feared for her, with what turned out to be justifiable reasons. At the same time, I was learning a brand new system at work (from an outside source and not proper trainers) and had three quarters of my team out. On evenings would be travelling 80 miles back and forth to visit my Mum and Dad in separate towns, because the hospitals and care homes they were in were 20 miles apart. When my Mum did die during that time, my Dad came round thankfully, but he was diagnosed with dementia straight after. During Covid especially it was very hard to try to explain to him over the phone, why I couldn’t visit and the situation with my Mum. All in all it did me in eventually, and I’ve suffered from a lot of the anxieties explained on here by others. Think this thread has been brilliant though for offering ways out to people. One of the best bits of advice I’ve had is when you’re facing problems, no matter what they are, there are always solutions. Instead of your mind spinning all the time, in the middle of the night, or first thing every morning, try to dispel it all, wait for a time, your own time later on when you are calmer. Think of all the possible solutions to whatever it is you’re facing. Write down the pros and cons to all the solutions you can think of, whittle it down to the few solutions that you think you can go with, do it and dispel all the others crowding your mind."

Mine was severe or clinical depression. It was only the therapy that got me out of in 3 weeks and then there was the low mood and anxiety to work on . Looking back I was suffering from depression and low mood for over 4 years

Mine was severe or clinical depression. It was only the therapy that got me out of in 3 weeks and then there was the low mood and anxiety to work on . Looking back I was suffering from depression and low mood for over 4 years

I am sorry to read that you've had troubles Debs. Keep smiling though and have a row with Surf & goose. You know that it'll make you feel better mate.

That depends what you mean by low level. Also people with depression that's not clinical Often have more than one low level.issue getting to them and so.dont know where to start in overcoming things and get totally overwhelmed. I ended up.losing my appetite and not taking my meds ( which basically keep me alive) over what you might consider low level.depression. One of which was grief. That alone can floor someone enough to cause them.to.want to kill.themselves. So yes while you have a point about serious mental.health issues it's not for anyone to say what is low level or not as you don't know how they are coping with what you perceive to be minor ills.