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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

USA
0.00005 gun deaths per person

UK
0.0000007 gun deaths per person

I read something about the number of unhinged nutters on the streets of the USA due to all kinds of factors but mostly not removing them like they might have in the past. Anyway it was in the millions. The argument was that the police and the authorities do little about this and so people resort to carrying a hidden gun as a last resort. In other words they are taking responsibility for their own safety as the authorities aren't. 

This all seems completely alien to us but as the police and authorities in the UK seem to be travelling down a similar path I think people would think more of how they would protect themselves when they are left on their own to do so.

 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025, 06:10 This apparently could be him losing a debate to Kirk a few months back Skye Valadez..



Reminds me a bit of Vexed.

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025, 11:26 Of course criminals will always get guns
So is the answer to allow every citizen, every nutter, every dangerous mental case to have one (or more)?
Mentioned before the number of gun related deaths in Cowboy Land compared to civilised nations
How many schools have been shot up and children murdered in the US compared to every other nation?
Dunblane … was that 30 years ago? Any others in the UK?

Saw a MAGA women saying you couldn’t compare Kirk’s shooting to school shootings because the former was ‘a tragedy’ because he had family. Not sure what she imagined dead children had.

Of course criminals will always get guns
So is the answer to allow every citizen, every nutter, every dangerous mental case to have one (or more)?
Mentioned before the number of gun related deaths in Cowboy Land compared to civilised nations
How many schools have been shot up and children murdered in the US compared to every other nation?
Dunblane … was that 30 years ago? Any others in the UK?

Saw a MAGA women saying you couldn’t compare Kirk’s shooting to school shootings because the former was ‘a tragedy’ because he had family. Not sure what she imagined dead children had.

XKhammer wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025, 10:54

Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025, 10:49 The perp STILL hasn't been caught eh. Mossad don't fuck about do they.

Clearly you're just another sickening anti semitic leftie loon and just as moronic as the right wing conspiracy theorists loons 

"perp"

Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025, 10:49 The perp STILL hasn't been caught eh. Mossad don't fuck about do they.

The perp STILL hasn't been caught eh. Mossad don't fuck about do they.

Westside wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025, 10:33 "Won't help at all.

If you're in the "criminal fraternity", one of your acquaintances will "know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody" who can get you (YOU) a gun. No questions, just lay the money down."

Yes, but you don't get nut job mass shootings in the UK, with illegal firearms beacuse of our firearms laws. Criminals will always get guns as you describe and innocents will get caught in the crossfire, but nut jobs don't do mass shootings with illegally obtained firearms, in the UK. If guns were so easy to obtain in the UK, don't you think some of the terrorist atrocities with knives and cars, would have been with guns?

"Won't help at all.

If you're in the "criminal fraternity", one of your acquaintances will "know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody" who can get you (YOU) a gun. No questions, just lay the money down."

Yes, but you don't get nut job mass shootings in the UK, with illegal firearms beacuse of our firearms laws. Criminals will always get guns as you describe and innocents will get caught in the crossfire, but nut jobs don't do mass shootings with illegally obtained firearms, in the UK. If guns were so easy to obtain in the UK, don't you think some of the terrorist atrocities with knives and cars, would have been with guns?

No one is claiming ALL Lefties are celebrating, just a lot of them. So anyone that is needs to sort their fucking own out by calling them out. The bile is predominantly from the Left aimed at the Right and to the point they're actively trying and on occasions successfully killing those for holding conservative and Christian beliefs. 

The Right have actually kept their shit together and not lost their minds like the Left revealed themselves after the BLM riots. Instead they hold vigils. That's been the level of difference in reaction. Sort your own out, so called "Liberal" Lefties...
 

Comma.

Not going to get into the whole Palestine debate but let's just say many many thousands would still be alive had the Israeli hostages been released.

Some of the comments and celebrations at Kirks murder is sickening and vile BUT its also coming to light that a lot of disinformation is being spread, some may be coming from China and Russia (see link at bottom) who would love to see some chaos and disorder in America and will use this to fan the flames.

Even some far right wing types are posting stuff to get the masses going, even pretending to be celebrating lefties, multiple and fake accounts only serve to get more attention of fighting the left and as far as im concerned the far right is just as fucked up and dangerous as the far left, so as disgusting and outrageous as this killing is im not jumping the gun that ALL lefties are in celebration mode and hope we see some calm and rational thought before individuals or the US government takes any action.

We live in truly fucked up times

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirks- ... ce-2128699

Onebilly, read that spiked article and have to say it was a typicall one sided view of an event and its aftermath. No mention at all of the still ongoing response by Netanyahu’s forces and the colossal loss of life that has ensued.

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025, 09:05 Fine for people to target shoot if that’s something they enjoy at a rifle club
Just needs the guns to be locked away at the club when you want to go and use them
Any sensible reason that these sort of weapons need to leave the gun club?
When they are they get into the hands of dangerous mental people & you have events such as this 




 

Fine for people to target shoot if that’s something they enjoy at a rifle club
Just needs the guns to be locked away at the club when you want to go and use them
Any sensible reason that these sort of weapons need to leave the gun club?
When they are they get into the hands of dangerous mental people & you have events such as this 



 

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/kirks-m ... isemitism/

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/09/1 ... -the-left/


Brendan O' Neils piece in Spiked on  Charlie Kirk.

collyrob wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025, 23:09


is this legit? 

This apparently could be him losing a debate to Kirk a few months back Skye Valadez..



Reminds me a bit of Vexed.

Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025, 22:46 Fuck me Mr Anon! Are you David Icke in disguise?

Why is it every time we get some high profile killing(s) the conspiracy theorists go into overdrive

The Oxford Union condemns but, I bet they still allow him to be President. Almost justifies shooting in his apology... Britain, dogs etc. 

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... k-shooting