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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

The bigotry is in forcing others to agree with your point of view. Most cultures are built around religion. It’s been a cornerstone of people’s belief systems for centuries. And now they’re being called bigots for not following a new belief system? Who’s the bigots here?

"No.i.am.not. It's quite simple .... arguing against discriminatiion of gay people and denying them rights, isn't discriminating against a religion. What you are basically saying is its OK for religious groups to. Want deny groups to.others. Go down that road at our peril. I"

And yet that is exactly what you are arguing for?

Goose where the religious use their interpretation of an ancient text to.uphold the idea that it is OK.to discriminate against other then yes that is bigotry. One set of a country's citizens shouldn't get to be protected against discrimination at the expense of others

Spot on FC

But in Debs world the people of all those religions are bigots because they don’t agree with her.

"Growing up in a home with two loving parents creates happier, more well adjusted children than those who are in council care and a series of foster carers their whole life. That would apply to same sex adopters. As for marriage, civil marriage is just that - it's under civil not religious law. Even if a religious person thinks same sex marriage is wrong, it's a marriage recognised by the secular state, it's got nothing to do with anyone with any religious belief. The only point I would draw a line is if the law said that a church, mosque, synagogue or whatever should be legally obliged to marry same sex couples if that religious institution was against same sex marriage. At that point, the state is intruding on the rights of religious people and religion itself. But as long as it's under civil law then it's nobody's business who the state allows to get married (as long as they're consenting adults)."

"One thing i have noticed is how i am changing on my views on this gender bullshit due to these activists infiltrating every fabric on our society. If you had told me 5 years ago i would be a feminist in 2023 i would have laughed you out the room, but here i am arguing for women’s rights due to men in dresses and lycra trying to destroy women’s spaces, have also noticed recently regular trans people who just want to live their lives standing up against these violent and athletic men in women’s spaces, so I’m now agreeing with them on many things. Haven’t got my pride flag out yet though!!!!!!!"

Hysterical.cabbage....if I laugh any harder I.might need some kind of medical.intervention.

Darlo Debs 8:39 Sun Jul 16 Anyway food time. Greggs?

Adoption isn’t a right. Kids are placed with the family that gives the best possible start in life. Statistically that’s the ‘traditional’ family structure. Marriage btw has its origins in religion. Hence the religious influence on the ceremony.

"Yeah mimmler, opinion polls consistently show 60% approval for same sex marriages in Poland https://wyborcza.pl/7,75398,29845961,ipsos-rosnie-poparcie-polakow-dla-legalizacji-zwiazkow-osob.html Do the translation yourself"

Anyway food time.

Mashed it's not a weak argument at all. All.you are saying is if people really don't like homosexuals on religious grounds then its OK to take their rights or not extend to.them.roghts enjoyed by others. Luckily we have laws here to.prevent such discrimination and stopping certain religions from taking away the rights of others..

"""But how does it affect you...."" is such a weak argument. It obviously affects the people of Poland and Hungary (and most other Christian countries) as the vast majority of their populations are msssively hostile to all this bollocks If people have deeply held moral and cultural beliefs that are at odds with a tiny minority of people's demands then the majority takes priority Well that's how it should work anyway, but too many histrionic women and gays got into power here so we've gotta put up with this bollocks til the pendulum swings back the other way in a few years (which it will)"

The Muslim faith is very clear on homosexuality. Pop down to a mosque and ask them about gay marriage. Hence it’s not legal in any Muslim country.

No here you go.dou g it again. I said fundamentalist Muslims which is different to saying all.muslims are fundamentalist. Stop twisting people's words

It’s also the ground occupied by the crypto fascist Catholics and the Kremlin. To call them cod-Taliban is no insult at all.

Right so muslims are fundamentalists because they don’t buy into gay rights? Amazing and very tolerant of other’s religions.

"Here’s the ground where Orban, Kaczyndki and the Catholic crypto fascists meet: when a gay couple adopt or marry, that’s a threat to the nuclear family and civilisation itself but when a abusive psycho beats up his wife it’s OK as long as he goes to church on Sunday - definitely not a matter for the social services, prosecutor or the police. You sick fucks."

You are openly admitted your bigotry regarding lgbt rights. Thanks for proving my point For someone who despises what you regard as fundamentalist. Muslim beliefs you seem.to have a lot in common with them Enjoy your day .

You are openly admitted your bigotry regarding lgbt rights. Thanks for proving my point For someone who despises what you regard as fundamentalist. Muslim beliefs you seem.to have a lot in common with them Enjoy your day .

Hilarious. Different opinion = bigot. Very open minded Debs. I’m sure you say the same about Muslims you meet. I don’t agree with same sex marriage and deffo not letting them adopt.

No.you are bigot because you think.any other kind if family structure should be banned by law.

I’ve already made clear my views on the breakdown of the nuclear family and how this affects society in general. I’m a bigot because I believe in the traditional family structure and the benefits it brings? Very open minded Debs.