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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 20:59
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:56
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:33
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:17
Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.
GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
GM are the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US.
try again.
Yeah and the tariff hit is on their overseas production.
from the WSJ. Read the article on the link below.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 19:15
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:13
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:56
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:33
GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
GM are the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US.
try again.
Wake me up when we get Stagflation!
Wake me up when they manufacture iPhones in the US
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 19:13
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:56
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:33
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:17
Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.
GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
GM are the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US.
try again.
Wake me up when we get Stagflation!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:56
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:33
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:17
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:13
Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.
GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
GM are the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US.
try again.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:33
by Nutsin
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:17
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:13
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:11
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.
Silly nuts!
Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.
GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:24
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:17
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:13
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:11
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.
Silly nuts!
Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.
Retarded like thinking a permanent tariff is transitory? That kind?
I’ve no idea why you’re bringing VAT into this. Unless you’re finally agreeing that tariffs are nothing more than a glorified sales tax?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:17
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:13
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:11
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:09
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.
sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.
Silly nuts!
Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:13
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:11
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:09
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:06
What like VAT you mean?
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.
sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.
Silly nuts!
Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:11
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:09
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:06
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:53
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
What like VAT you mean?
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.
sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.
Silly nuts!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:09
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:06
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:53
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:49
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again!
Soppy cսnt!
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
What like VAT you mean?
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.
sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:06
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:53
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:49
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:36
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?
nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again!
Soppy cսnt!
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
What like VAT you mean?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:53
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:49
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:36
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:33
Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.
Silly nuts!
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?
nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again!
Soppy cսnt!
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:49
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:36
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:33
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:23
Hahaha

“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.
Silly nuts!
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?
nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again!
Soppy cսnt!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:36
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:33
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:23
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:19
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.
Poor Goose!
Hahaha

“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.
Silly nuts!
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?
nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:33
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:23
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:19
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 16:55
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.
Poor Goose!
Hahaha

“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.
Silly nuts!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:23
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:19
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 16:55
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 16:53
You are clueless!
Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?
Poor Goose.
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.
Poor Goose!
Hahaha

“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:19
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 16:55
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 16:53
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:43
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.
Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
You are clueless!
Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?
Poor Goose.
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.
Poor Goose!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 16:55
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 16:53
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:43
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:32
And yet the stock market is flying high!
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.
Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
You are clueless!
Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?
Poor Goose.
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 16:53
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:43
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:32
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:29
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.
not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
And yet the stock market is flying high!
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.
Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
You are clueless!
Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?
Poor Goose.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:43
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:32
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:29
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:16
So desperate !
Poor Goose!
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.
not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
And yet the stock market is flying high!
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.
Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:32
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:29
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:16
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:09
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
So desperate !
Poor Goose!
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.
not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
And yet the stock market is flying high!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:29
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:16
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:09
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:02
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
So desperate !
Poor Goose!
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.
not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:16
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:09
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:02
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:49
He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.
so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?
what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
So desperate !
Poor Goose!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:09
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:02
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:49
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:46
Watch the YouTube video I just posted. It’ll educate you. You are obviously ignorant to what is going on. This will help you!
Cheers!
You’re welcome!
He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.
so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?
what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:02
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:49
Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:46
goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:39
No mention of why the US biggest car manufacturer has lost $1.1bn of profits due to tariffs.
someone is paying those tariffs, either US consumers or US companies. Let’s see who.
Watch the YouTube video I just posted. It’ll educate you. You are obviously ignorant to what is going on. This will help you!
Cheers!
You’re welcome!
He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.
so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?
what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.