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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 08:59
by Lee Trundle
BRANDED wrote: 30 Jun 2025, 08:28 Professor Sir Chris Whitty was responsible for government guidance that was believed to have triggered the spread of Covid into care homes, The Telegraph can disclose.The Chief Medical Officer has told the Covid Inquiry that he was “not closely involved” in decisions behind a scheme to discharge thousands of hospital patients into care homes at the start of the pandemic.However, government emails obtained by The Telegraph show that Sir Chris’s office signed off guidance for care homes in England, advising them that they could take patients from hospital who had not even been tested.Emails also reveal that Helen Whately, the former social care minister, warned colleagues that sending people with Covid into care homes “surely materially increases” the risks to residents.However, she signed the guidance off anyway after officials said that one of Sir Chris’s two deputies was “content with the advice”.The care homes guidance, published on April 2 2020, is considered one of the worst mistakes of the pandemic, and has been branded “irrational” by the High Court.Sir Chris and Ms Whately will face scrutiny over their part in the guidance during the Covid Inquiry, which opens its examination of care homes on Monday.Telegraph
I get the impression most of those who were hoodwinked by COVID are too embarrassed to talk about it now, BRANDED.

You still have idiots like joyo beating the facemask drum, but most people just want to brush it under the carpet and hope it all goes away.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 08:28
by BRANDED
Professor Sir Chris Whitty was responsible for government guidance that was believed to have triggered the spread of Covid into care homes, The Telegraph can disclose.The Chief Medical Officer has told the Covid Inquiry that he was “not closely involved” in decisions behind a scheme to discharge thousands of hospital patients into care homes at the start of the pandemic.However, government emails obtained by The Telegraph show that Sir Chris’s office signed off guidance for care homes in England, advising them that they could take patients from hospital who had not even been tested.Emails also reveal that Helen Whately, the former social care minister, warned colleagues that sending people with Covid into care homes “surely materially increases” the risks to residents.However, she signed the guidance off anyway after officials said that one of Sir Chris’s two deputies was “content with the advice”.The care homes guidance, published on April 2 2020, is considered one of the worst mistakes of the pandemic, and has been branded “irrational” by the High Court.Sir Chris and Ms Whately will face scrutiny over their part in the guidance during the Covid Inquiry, which opens its examination of care homes on Monday.Telegraph

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 23:45
by XKhammer
Thought Trump going to sort out Ukrainian war in first day in office instead he's ignoring the biggest despot on planet and somehow blaming Zelensky 
Trump done a good job with Iran but he's a disaster with Ukraine
Mind you if Harris was in charge Iran would now have a nuke

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 23:23
by BillyJenningsBoots
Massive Attack" wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 12:35

So that's Pakistan, Israel and now the Congo that have called for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. Contrary to the nonsense rhetoric of the clueless left that tried hard down the years to paint him out to be a vile warmongering dangerous shitcunt. 😂

Trump sorts Ukraine and Russias shit out, he'll piss the award and be revered for decades to come innthe history books. 
I cant quite fathom whether you are on a wind up or not? Hopefully you are and very funny too! 😁

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 15:19
by goose
XKhammer wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 15:16
goose wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 08:08
XKhammer wrote: 28 Jun 2025, 23:06 Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?
So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????
Except Eyeties as all are soap dodgers
I won’t call every ginger cyclists a nonce just because you are.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 15:16
by XKhammer
goose wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 08:08
XKhammer wrote: 28 Jun 2025, 23:06 Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?
So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????
Except Eyeties as all are soap dodgers

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 12:50
by OK_Guy
One Sunny Day" wrote: 28 Jun 2025, 23:56 A "bird" assaulting pregnant women and abusing little kids is a "little fracas" to you? Says more about you than anyone else.
I see Mandy Clare was a recent local Labour representative until she was hounded out for her views on women (women don't have penis, men do)... so hardly Reform by choice.

no I won't be voting Labour, Reform or any other shit Political-party

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 12:35
by Massive Attack


So that's Pakistan, Israel and now the Congo that have called for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. Contrary to the nonsense rhetoric of the clueless left that tried hard down the years to paint him out to be a vile warmongering dangerous shitcunt. 😂

Trump sorts Ukraine and Russias shit out, he'll piss the award and be revered for decades to come innthe history books. 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 08:37
by only1billybonds
They has obviously forgotten about the Labour MP up in Runcorn who actually battered a bloke in the street in full public view. Going by OSD's standards, this means that all Labour mp's are violent thugs or have I missed something.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 08:08
by goose
XKhammer wrote: 28 Jun 2025, 23:06 Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?
So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 07:30
by Eerie Decent
What exactly happened to them to make you so scared?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 23:56
by One Sunny Day
A "bird" assaulting pregnant women and abusing little kids is a "little fracas" to you? Says more about you than anyone else.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 23:47
by Eerie Decent
One Sunny Day" wrote: 28 Jun 2025, 21:58 Lovely bunch these Reform politicians. Make us all feel safe.
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A bird having a little fracas in a park makes you feel unsafe?

No wonder your arse absolutely fell out when Wong just stuck it right on you, you absolute minge.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 23:06
by XKhammer
Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 21:58
by One Sunny Day
Lovely bunch these Reform politicians. Make us all feel safe.
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Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 14:18
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 28 Jun 2025, 08:24
Nutsin wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:21
I have three questions for you:
1. Trump introduced tariffs on washing machines in his first term, how did it work out?
2. Did you actually read what GE said about this investment? In particular why they’re moving and when they started this plan.
3. The real benchmark is going to be GDP growth, if it’s less than the Biden administration would you agree that equals failure?
No, GDP growth would be a part of it, but you can’t ignore the $88 Billion and climbing Tarriff revenue numbers, the deficits, Inflation, wage growth and standard of living, 

$30 Trillion in GDP with no income growth and high inflation does not equate to a good economy. That’s what Bidenomics gave us, it was not a good economy for the middle class, which is a big reason why he loss.

However once the trade agreements are sorted and Trumps big beautiful Bill is passed I do expect to see an increase in US GDP, a robust jobs market, lower inflation  and higher wages. That will increase the standard of living and will help pull more people out of poverty. 

So it’s not just one metric but if I had to choose one I’d say Standard of living for the middle and lower class is what counts most.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 08:24
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:21
I have three questions for you:
1. Trump introduced tariffs on washing machines in his first term, how did it work out?
2. Did you actually read what GE said about this investment? In particular why they’re moving and when they started this plan.
3. The real benchmark is going to be GDP growth, if it’s less than the Biden administration would you agree that equals failure?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 07:41
by goose
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 28 Jun 2025, 00:58
goose wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:24
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:15
That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?
 
Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 
Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour
Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.

whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 01:03
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:24
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:15
goose wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 15:17
Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?
That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?
 
Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 
What a Day for the Donald!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 00:58
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
goose wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:24
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:15
goose wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 15:17
Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?
That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?
 
Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 
Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 27 Jun 2025, 21:48
by Eerie Decent
Trump is smashing it.

Go on the boy!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 27 Jun 2025, 21:47
by Nutsin

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 27 Jun 2025, 21:24
by goose
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:15
goose wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 15:17
Nutsin wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 15:10
Do you actually read this stuff before posting it?
Nike said tariffs will add $1bn to it's costs this year. An extra $1bn passed on to customers.

They are not moving production from China to the US, they are moving it to other Far East countries.
It's just a tax making your goods more expensive.

Adidas said the same thing a few weeks ago:
""Since we currently cannot produce almost any of our products in the US, these higher tariffs will eventually cause higher costs for all our products for the US market," chief executive Bjorn Gulden said.

why are you celebrating retail prices going up?
That's not necessarily the case. The price of Adidas or Nike goods may go up (or may not), but US-made alternatives will become more competitive.

If mad fuckers want to pay over the odds for fashion footwear, it's up to them. Nobody complains that Ferraris are a bit pricey, do they?
 
 
Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 27 Jun 2025, 21:21
by Nutsin

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 27 Jun 2025, 21:19
by Nutsin
only1billybonds wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 19:55 I hope he ( Trump) eventually wins the noble peace prize. The meltdown from the idiots on the left will be fucking biblical.

Speaking of the Donald, did anyone see that utter cսnt AOC pushing for him to be impeached for bombing the Iranians without first consulting Congress. She's since shut up so I'm guessing that someone must have told her that Obhama dropped more than 26,000 bombs in seven different countries without muttering a word to Congress.
Honestly, the stupidity of the libs is endless.
You think AOC is bad wait till you get a load of their new champion Jasmine Crockett ffs.

It’s as if they are deliberately trying to lose.

Gotta laugh at these fuckwits.