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Westside wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 15:32

theaxeman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 15:09 Apparently, we've bought 56 and only 2 have gone on to score 20 goals in their West Ham career! Not in a season, their entire West Ham career!!!!

 

Carroll, C Cole and Sakho have all scored 20+  career goals for West Ham. 

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 15:24

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 15:00

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 14:22

Fucking hell! These are your examples? If you have to go back 29 years to include Hartson and Kitson and only include 2 current players, one of whom was clearly making step forward in his career and the other of whom would only initially sign on loan  I'd say that you've pretty much proved my point

We are aren't deep in relegation trouble every year. You don't sign tonnes of players in the Jan window either. We can sign loan players now, so why wouldnt they count? They still come in and make a difference.

They are examples of players brought in when we were deep in the shit. Good players who have come in and improved the squad. It's entirely possible.

 

Bilic was a summer signing
Reiper was a punt who'd never played overseas - and we were far from marooned when he joined
Hartson & Kitson, absolutely
Demba Ba signed because he'd failed medicals at 2 other clubs
Lucas Neil, yes
Boa Morte? ahem...
Jarrod and Soucek I've already covered. I'll give you three players in 30 years

theaxeman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 15:09 Apparently, we've bought 56 and only 2 have gone on to score 20 goals in their West Ham career! Not in a season, their entire West Ham career!!!!

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 15:00

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 14:22

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:57

I'd say its more delusional to assume better players don't exist and aren't interested.

With that attitude we'd never have signed Bilic, Reiper, Hartson, Kitson, Demba Ba, Lucas Neil, Luis Boa Morte, Matthew Upson, Jarrod Bowen, Tomas Soucek etc etc.

Fucking hell! These are your examples? If you have to go back 29 years to include Hartson and Kitson and only include 2 current players, one of whom was clearly making step forward in his career and the other of whom would only initially sign on loan  I'd say that you've pretty much proved my point

We are aren't deep in relegation trouble every year. You don't sign tonnes of players in the Jan window either. We can sign loan players now, so why wouldnt they count? They still come in and make a difference.

They are examples of players brought in when we were deep in the shit. Good players who have come in and improved the squad. It's entirely possible.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 11:05

scott_d wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 10:25 Compared to Potter and Loppy, Nuno has improved our performances.

Sadly, it' still not enough and it looks like there has been some real damage done since we dropped Moyes and shopped for replacements in the sale rail.

Sacking Nuno isn't the answer unless it means investing in a replacement, but we all know that's not an option so the only alternative is to back him in the transfer window.

But again, what is the likelihood that Sullivan allows Nuno to bring in the players he wants?

It's a fucking mess and it's not really Nuno's fault.







 

 

Because of how Nuno has poorly mismanaged the results leading up to the Transfer window opening, no one decent will want to join now. We are 6 points away from safety as it currently stands. Players will not want to come. Hence why our only real longshot chance is to get Strand Larsen for around £40M muted that Wolves would accept as they know they are a total lost cause, whereas we have a small chance of still surviving but have to yet again pay well over the odds for a player that risky with confidence currently through the floor. 

A lot of the form since he arrived really is his fault, just as much as BS and Potter this season. No way is he blameless getting an easy ride.

What we need is a charismatic man manager that will inspire this anxiety ridden pussies, that's about our only hope and Nuno aint that man to inspire them in to reacting. The evidence after 13 games is undeniable. *folds arms looking shell-shocked defeated and gormless*

Sir Alf" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 14:45 The point with Wilson is he has to start as he is our only recognised, central striking option and getting ahead in games. We know he cannot play 90 mins and Nuno has been approaching it the wrong way around arguably especially in home games. Not sure what his thinking is? That the opposition will get tired and Wilson coming on late exploits that? Seems he didnt consider if our players might get even more tired and more likely to concede( exactly what happened to Scarles who was  )?  Or is it that he wants a midfield 4 to start games so only 2 up top? At home whatever it is, it has failed

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 14:22

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:57

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:50

And there you have it.
We have a squad as good as anyone in the bottom half and we will be OK with one defensive and one attacking leader joining a seriously relagation-threatened club (as long as they are good enough and despite not having been able to sign either in multiple transfer windows over multiple years with bigger budgets and better prospects) and can add Antonio to the mix (as long as long as he proves his fitness). Borderline delusional

I'd say its more delusional to assume better players don't exist and aren't interested.

With that attitude we'd never have signed Bilic, Reiper, Hartson, Kitson, Demba Ba, Lucas Neil, Luis Boa Morte, Matthew Upson, Jarrod Bowen, Tomas Soucek etc etc.

Fucking hell! These are your examples? If you have to go back 29 years to include Hartson and Kitson and only include 2 current players, one of whom was clearly making step forward in his career and the other of whom would only initially sign on loan  I'd say that you've pretty much proved my point

wils wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 14:43

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 14:05

If we want any sort of improvement up front we have to go out and get a bona fide starting calibre striker who will get picked to start every game by this manager or any other who may be stupid or desperate enough to take the job should it become available. 

We have bought over 50 of 'strikers'. A significant amount of those were 'bona fide' when we bought them but did nothing for us. And many of those left to go and perform well at the clubs they left for. So not convinced it's as simple as 'buying' a striker. But not having a one at all is not the way forward either. Playing Bowen where he is most productive is essential. I would just rotate between Soucek and Wilson up front at this point. I would put any money into shoring up the defence.

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 14:05

If we want any sort of improvement up front we have to go out and get a bona fide starting calibre striker who will get picked to start every game by this manager or any other who may be stupid or desperate enough to take the job should it become available. 

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:57

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:50

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:28

again it's a given that he'd prove his fitness before being offered any kind of deal.

And there you have it.
We have a squad as good as anyone in the bottom half and we will be OK with one defensive and one attacking leader joining a seriously relagation-threatened club (as long as they are good enough and despite not having been able to sign either in multiple transfer windows over multiple years with bigger budgets and better prospects) and can add Antonio to the mix (as long as long as he proves his fitness). Borderline delusional

I'd say its more delusional to assume better players don't exist and aren't interested.

With that attitude we'd never have signed Bilic, Reiper, Hartson, Kitson, Demba Ba, Lucas Neil, Luis Boa Morte, Matthew Upson, Jarrod Bowen, Tomas Soucek etc etc.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:02

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 12:56

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 12:39 Again, don't overly focus on what he could necessarily offer the Team just on the pitch (although I disagree he wouldn't add anything when called upon), it's also what he offers in and around the Club behind the scenes as well. He's not going to be a disruptive influence and would be the right character to make sure people act professional, that shit rubs off, especially for young Pros just starting out. The message it sent out however I think was damaging as his first move upon walking in to the Club. That shit is proper mental management that saud a lot about Nuno and didn't like it. If say Ward-Prowse was a known nightmare then OK I can understand it but Ward-Prowse? Not a fucking chance he deserved being launched out the door amd I suspect many of the current Squad have felt likewise. It certainly aint a move that's going to ingratiate himself to other players if that's how he treats someone like Ward-Prowse. Then I look at how his managed Wilson, then a pattern emerges not being a one-off of oddball moves.

 

JWP’s high character wasn’t rubbing off under Potter. Two out of three managers deemed him not good enough and Potter who did rely on him is widely acknowledged as the worst manager in our history. It was brutal to just drop JWP like that but it’s hardly had a detrimental effect. At the time it was seen by basically everyone as doing what was needed. 

I don’t believe anyone else would have managed Wilson much differently through the circumstances of both his fitness and contract structure. Again he is not a player who can play every minute of every game and at the time Nuno came in it was obvious he’d try Fullkrug first as would any manager and everyone was at the time clamouring to see Marshall over Wilson which happened and was clearly not the answer in hindsight. It has transpired he’s the least shit option vs a kid who isn’t ready or a Fuckjng cowardly wantaway cսnt but he was clearly brought to be no more than a bitpart player and backup to the cowardly wantaway cսnt. 

If we get a proper capable striker in the transfer window and they and Wilson both stay fit then I’m absolutely positive the manager has a striker on the pitch every minute of every game going forward from then. 

6 games under the other hapless clown Potter aint a barometer for anything. He uses to make decent players at Chelsea look like wank as well remember. I absolutely did not agree ostracising Ward-Prowse was smart management the way that he has and I also banged the drum at the time that our best Premier League Striker at the Club that should be starting most of our games is Wilson even when Fullkunt was fit to play. And so it has proved. 

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:50

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:28

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:24 "Antonio off the bench is a better option than Fullkrug or trying to play Paqueta through the middle". 


Although neither of the alternatives are remotely pleasing, you're basing this on not having seen this nearly 36 year old kick a ball since a traumatic compund fracture of his leg 13 months ago, right?

again it's a given that he'd prove his fitness before being offered any kind of deal.

And there you have it.
We have a squad as good as anyone in the bottom half and we will be OK with one defensive and one attacking leader joining a seriously relagation-threatened club (as long as they are good enough and despite not having been able to sign either in multiple transfer windows over multiple years with bigger budgets and better prospects) and can add Antonio to the mix (as long as long as he proves his fitness). Borderline delusional

goose wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:28

onsideman wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025, 13:24 "Antonio off the bench is a better option than Fullkrug or trying to play Paqueta through the middle". 


Although neither of the alternatives are remotely pleasing, you're basing this on not having seen this nearly 36 year old kick a ball since a traumatic compund fracture of his leg 13 months ago, right?

again it's a given that he'd prove his fitness before being offered any kind of deal.