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NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 09:51
by crystal falace
"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 20:41
by El Scorchio
Bondholder wrote: 25 Jan 2026, 20:29
El Scorchio" wrote: 25 Jan 2026, 20:23
Bondholder wrote: 25 Jan 2026, 20:18 Always amazes me that so many NFL stadiums have no roof and they have equally bad weather in the US as we do here. I'd love us to build a stadium like Arrrowhead or Lambeau or  for the Hammers. Stadiums don't really need a roof when they are only used a max of 30 times a years. 
It’s because those teams- usually the older ones-believe football should be open to the elements and also those in the northern states believe it plays to their advantage in the winter months and playoffs where the weather is really adverse and any visiting team used to warm weather or a roof are more out of their comfort zone. 
Was suprised the Bills opted for no closing roof on thier new stadium (which looks ridiculously similar to THFC). The roof must be the biggest expense, so it makes sense to build without. 
They are one of those teams with the philosophy mentioned earlier. They wouldn’t even consider a roof, just like Green Bay, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Cleveland the NY teams etc. 

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 20:29
by Bondholder
El Scorchio" wrote: 25 Jan 2026, 20:23
Bondholder wrote: 25 Jan 2026, 20:18 Always amazes me that so many NFL stadiums have no roof and they have equally bad weather in the US as we do here. I'd love us to build a stadium like Arrrowhead or Lambeau or  for the Hammers. Stadiums don't really need a roof when they are only used a max of 30 times a years. 
It’s because those teams- usually the older ones-believe football should be open to the elements and also those in the northern states believe it plays to their advantage in the winter months and playoffs where the weather is really adverse and any visiting team used to warm weather or a roof are more out of their comfort zone. 
Was suprised the Bills opted for no closing roof on thier new stadium (which looks ridiculously similar to THFC). The roof must be the biggest expense, so it makes sense to build without. 

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 20:23
by El Scorchio
Bondholder wrote: 25 Jan 2026, 20:18 Always amazes me that so many NFL stadiums have no roof and they have equally bad weather in the US as we do here. I'd love us to build a stadium like Arrrowhead or Lambeau or  for the Hammers. Stadiums don't really need a roof when they are only used a max of 30 times a years. 
It’s because those teams- usually the older ones-believe football should be open to the elements and also those in the northern states believe it plays to their advantage in the winter months and playoffs where the weather is really adverse and any visiting team used to warm weather or a roof are more out of their comfort zone. 

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 20:18
by Bondholder
Always amazes me that so many NFL stadiums have no roof and they have equally bad weather in the US as we do here. I'd love us to build a stadium like Arrrowhead or Lambeau or  for the Hammers. Stadiums don't really need a roof when they are only used a max of 30 times a years. 

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 19:39
by El Scorchio
southbankbornnbred wrote: 25 Jan 2026, 15:54 Patsies v Seahawks in the SB, is my prediction.

[I'm a notoriously shite gambler]
The patriots seem to have lucked into a bye to the Super Bowl at almost every turn this season. However I think it’s an NFC winner this time. 

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 16:50
by Takashi Miike
I used to religiously watch the combine footage up until a couple of years ago. saw Josh Allen, who was the complete stand out his year. similarly, Stidham impressed me most the following year, yet got drafted to a declining Patriots and has only started a handful of games since. I hope he does well tonight

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 15:54
by southbankbornnbred
Patsies v Seahawks in the SB, is my prediction.

[I'm a notoriously shite gambler]

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 13:12
by Joe C
What level are your nerves at today Joe?

Edit: Well that didn’t work. 

11. Nerves are at 11

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 25 Jan 2026, 11:20
by southbankbornnbred
Night of the long knives at the Jets - but Glenn has kept his job.

Instead, Glenn was the one who wielded the knife. Six coaches sacked yesterday. Including, rightly, the useless QB coach Charles London - who was a running back who’d never coached a QB until 2022!

Given that we’ve clearly made the decision to retain Glenn, the best we can hope for now is that his co-ordinator appointments are strong.

Looks like Wink, the ex-Ravens DC, as the new DC. Getting back to a high blitz, aggressive defense that’s more in keeping with Jets history. That’ll go down well with fans (we might even register an interception!), but it clearly wasn’t Glenn’s instinct last season. I hope he doesn’t settle on a shit hybrid between his “contain” approach and Wink’s aggression.

Need a good QB coach now - or no decent prospects will want to join.

 

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 11:04
by southbankbornnbred
I like Aaron Glenn as a person. But he's worse than Saleh as a coach and making all the same rookie mistakes. Between him and Mougey, there's no experience at the Jets other than the Johnsons' 25-year experience of being the worst owners in the NFL.

It won't happen, of course. But there is a seriously good opportunity here to get the Jets out of this mess. They failed to contact Harbaugh, overlooked McCarthy. McDermott is a no-brainer. He would be the Bill Parcells move that we made back in the 90s (and he made us competitive). But, football-wise, the Johnsons don't have a brain.

 

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 10:46
by Takashi Miike
southbankbornnbred wrote: 23 Jan 2026, 10:42
Takashi Miike" wrote: 23 Jan 2026, 10:17 yes, the Jets are having similar problems to us attracting coaches, with Glenn and (lesser so) DQ in prove it years. one advantage we have is Daniels, if he can ever get through a season in one piece
Yep - agreed, TM. Daniels at least gives you hope.

If the Johnsons had an ounce of sense (they don't), they'd make their move for Sean McDermott this week. Call in Glenn, tell him that you're sorry but it wasn't working out and that, as the owner, you have to always have one eye on the future stability of the franchise, then make your move for a head coach who is 96-50 (wins/losses) in a tough division where the Patsies play. You also get a HC who has made the play-offs eight times in nine seasons. And he already lives in the state of New York.

You get an upgrade to your HC, a guy who knows the AFC East, a guy who knows the weaknesses of the Bills and a guy who has worked with/helped develop a very good QB. Give McDermott the keys to the Jets and stop this fucking nonsense.

Last season, the Patsies became ruthless when Vrabel became available. We need to do the same. Should have done it with Harbaugh, but it would be nuts not to make a move for McDermott.
I agree, no room or time for sentiment as so many other teams keep improving

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 10:42
by southbankbornnbred
Takashi Miike" wrote: 23 Jan 2026, 10:17 yes, the Jets are having similar problems to us attracting coaches, with Glenn and (lesser so) DQ in prove it years. one advantage we have is Daniels, if he can ever get through a season in one piece
Yep - agreed, TM. Daniels at least gives you hope.

If the Johnsons had an ounce of sense (they don't), they'd make their move for Sean McDermott this week. Call in Glenn, tell him that you're sorry but it wasn't working out and that, as the owner, you have to always have one eye on the future stability of the franchise, then make your move for a head coach who is 96-50 (wins/losses) in a tough division where the Patsies play. You also get a HC who has made the play-offs eight times in nine seasons. And he already lives in the state of New York.

You get an upgrade to your HC, a guy who knows the AFC East, a guy who knows the weaknesses of the Bills and a guy who has worked with/helped develop a very good QB. Give McDermott the keys to the Jets and stop this fucking nonsense.

Last season, the Patsies became ruthless when Vrabel became available. We need to do the same. Should have done it with Harbaugh, but it would be nuts not to make a move for McDermott.

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 10:34
by Takashi Miike
Alan Page


Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 10:17
by Takashi Miike
Billy Kilmer


Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 10:17
by Takashi Miike
yes, the Jets are having similar problems to us attracting coaches, with Glenn and (lesser so) DQ in prove it years. one advantage we have is Daniels, if he can ever get through a season in one piece

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 08:46
by southbankbornnbred
Last year, the Jets missed out on even talking to Mike Vrabel because they weren't fast enough out of the blocks and didn't want to spend good money.

This year, some other good, experienced head coaches have been available - Harbaugh, McDermott, McCarthy etc - and we're still fucking around with a guy who is obviously out of his depth and who can't recruit co-ordinators.

I'd take Sean McDermott (ex-Bills) over this early version of Glenn. He'd also love the opportunity to screw over the owner/franchise that just dumped him prematurely. Give him or McCarthy the keys to the Jets and let them run things their way. It will be immeasurably better than anything Johnson, Mougey and Glenn can muster.

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 23 Jan 2026, 08:39
by southbankbornnbred
Predictably, reports emerging that the Jets are struggling to appoint a DC because some of the better names don't want to work with Glenn and Mougey. They think Glenn won't see out 2026, and are reluctant to sign a contract.

This decision by a bad owner to stand by a poor, inexperienced coach is backfiring.

Echoes of West Ham. They'll appoint eventually, but will probably have to pay through the nose for it. All feels a bit Nuno.

We're going to waste the 2026 draft - you watch. Two first-rounders and two second-rounders, and I bet we don't have a starting QB at the end of it all.

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 21 Jan 2026, 20:01
by southbankbornnbred
El Scorchio" wrote: 20 Jan 2026, 10:52
southbankbornnbred wrote: 20 Jan 2026, 07:45
El Scorchio" wrote: 17 Jan 2026, 17:53 The Jets are worse at quarterbacks than West Ham are at strikers.
Unfortunately, this is true!

It’s probably the single most important position in all of sport (in terms of team reliance on one person).

Yet, the Jets have had just one outstanding quarterback in their entire history, and a couple of other decent players.

Fucking useless at scouting, and then developing,  decent QBs. Even had one on the books just a few years ago, Darnold, then let him down and let him go. He’s now one win away from a Super Bowl!

Basically, the Jets are still not a serious franchise.
Yes- I should say that was not intended to stick the boot in, but just a 'comedy' parallel to make. It's extraordinary and of course there is some bad luck wrapped in there as well, but there's such a long list. It just makes it worse on the occasions when you see them going on to do better elsewhere at least if they suck everywhere it's almost a bit of consolation. And like West Ham it's under different coaches and GMs so it's hard to work out exactly how it happens (I guess ownership)

It seems ever harder for a rookie QB these days to get into the league and not flop when they've been drafted high by a needy team littered with poor players and had to play immediately. It's probably too much along with the expectation of being a single handed saviour for most of them to handle- add the pressure of playing in NY (completely different to Arizona, Nashville or Atlanta or some such place) and it's just so hard.

Unlucky in the draft this year as well with Moore maybe staying in school- although that could be a blessing in disguise- to be picking second in a draft with one prospect. Those things seem to happen a lot when you just need a break and it's so galling then you see someone picked in the teens or twenties who goes on to be really good (thinking the Bears drafting Trubisky over Mahomes- owch. Or anyone who passed on Rodgers in 2005) You have to be so lucky to get the right QB at the right time. 

It's eminently harder than buying a competent centre forward, that's for sure.
Oh, don’t worry, Scorch: as a Jets fan, you have to have a sense of humour about it all. Otherwise, it just feels like an experiment in how much nonsense a fan base can take. The parallels with West Ham are all too clear!

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 21 Jan 2026, 08:26
by southbankbornnbred
Joe C" wrote: 20 Jan 2026, 11:26 Bob Saleh trying as HC again - off to the Titans
I hope he does well for the Titans. He’s a decent man, who was underprepared for the Jets and also made some errors (in approach) that he needs to avoid second time around.

He did the right thing going back to the 49ers as DC first. He’s an excellent defensive mind. But, as a HC, he needs to call defensive plays and bring in a good OC who he can trust to call offensive plays while he learns that side of the game.

He tried to call offensive plays in New York and it was a complete disaster.

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 20 Jan 2026, 11:26
by Joe C
Bob Saleh trying as HC again - off to the Titans

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 20 Jan 2026, 10:52
by El Scorchio
southbankbornnbred wrote: 20 Jan 2026, 07:45
El Scorchio" wrote: 17 Jan 2026, 17:53 The Jets are worse at quarterbacks than West Ham are at strikers.
Unfortunately, this is true!

It’s probably the single most important position in all of sport (in terms of team reliance on one person).

Yet, the Jets have had just one outstanding quarterback in their entire history, and a couple of other decent players.

Fucking useless at scouting, and then developing,  decent QBs. Even had one on the books just a few years ago, Darnold, then let him down and let him go. He’s now one win away from a Super Bowl!

Basically, the Jets are still not a serious franchise.
Yes- I should say that was not intended to stick the boot in, but just a 'comedy' parallel to make. It's extraordinary and of course there is some bad luck wrapped in there as well, but there's such a long list. It just makes it worse on the occasions when you see them going on to do better elsewhere at least if they suck everywhere it's almost a bit of consolation. And like West Ham it's under different coaches and GMs so it's hard to work out exactly how it happens (I guess ownership)

It seems ever harder for a rookie QB these days to get into the league and not flop when they've been drafted high by a needy team littered with poor players and had to play immediately. It's probably too much along with the expectation of being a single handed saviour for most of them to handle- add the pressure of playing in NY (completely different to Arizona, Nashville or Atlanta or some such place) and it's just so hard.

Unlucky in the draft this year as well with Moore maybe staying in school- although that could be a blessing in disguise- to be picking second in a draft with one prospect. Those things seem to happen a lot when you just need a break and it's so galling then you see someone picked in the teens or twenties who goes on to be really good (thinking the Bears drafting Trubisky over Mahomes- owch. Or anyone who passed on Rodgers in 2005) You have to be so lucky to get the right QB at the right time. 

It's eminently harder than buying a competent centre forward, that's for sure.

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 20 Jan 2026, 07:45
by southbankbornnbred
El Scorchio" wrote: 17 Jan 2026, 17:53 The Jets are worse at quarterbacks than West Ham are at strikers.
Unfortunately, this is true!

It’s probably the single most important position in all of sport (in terms of team reliance on one person).

Yet, the Jets have had just one outstanding quarterback in their entire history, and a couple of other decent players.

Fucking useless at scouting, and then developing,  decent QBs. Even had one on the books just a few years ago, Darnold, then let him down and let him go. He’s now one win away from a Super Bowl!

Basically, the Jets are still not a serious franchise.

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 20 Jan 2026, 04:39
by RBshorty
Indiana win the CFC.(Think of Leicester winning the Premiership.) It’s first in their history.

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 20 Jan 2026, 00:03
by Monsieur merde de cheval
El Scorchio" wrote: 18 Jan 2026, 12:56 Bo Nix broke his ankle last night. Now an absolute bye for the winner of the Texans Patriots game. 
Pats at mile high has never ended  well...so I'm keeping stumm.
Sad state of affairs than I'm now more interested in the NFL than WHU ..

Re: NFL (since 2016)

Posted: 19 Jan 2026, 22:23
by Takashi Miike
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