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Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Sep 2025, 11:00
by northbankfrank
2,500 posts by the end of the season?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 20 Dec 2025, 06:55
by BoleynGone
Everything Nuno has tried has backfired apart from the Newcastle game which he had to win and went against the grain,then we were lucky against Burnley. You can bring on someone like Soucek for the alst 10 minutes and he may score. To start him now is counter productive. A lot of people have watched Earthy for a long time now,his first appearances for the firs team at the end of Moyes reign were good. He looked liked he belonged,that was 18 months ago,he's progressed. i fear that Nuno didn't watch any of those games. Nuno needs all the help he can get,not watching the u21's live is a mistake,another one of his many in a short period of time.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 15:20
by El Scorchio
MadThomas Frank or Xabi Alonso pls.
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Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 14:45
by Mad Ferret
Thomas Frank or Xabi Alonso pls.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 14:32
by El Scorchio
Massive Attack" wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 13:03
El Scorchio" wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 11:56
Come On You Irons" wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 11:19 Assuming we fail to beat Man City tomorrow and fall to a likely defeat, I would say a win against either Fulham on 27th Dec or Brighton on 30th.

Failure to beat Fulham would surely make Brighton the last chance saloon for him?

We should have got Sean Dyche when he was available like I advocated earlier in the season. I have never been convinced by Nuno the bus parking numpty.
No way does Nuno get fired. Sullivan 

He fucking well should if he manages to royally fuck up the next handful of games, but yes knowing the gimp in charge he'll likely reward him with a new contract instead. 
It's more a case of 'what are the alternatives if it comes to that?' if there's someone who would clearly be better who is available then fine but otherwise you're just giving yourself even less of a chance for the rest of the season. Whoever is here clearly needs a lot of help in the transfer market in January from Sullivan. firing Nuno before or during the window would just make things worse than they already are and I'd argue that he (or anyone) needs at least 2-3 players to make us even a basic functioning PL level team capable of getting the points to beat the drop. Whoever it is, it's basically cross your fingers that things pick up in January IF Sullivan actually gives the resources needed.

We've put our eggs in his basket now, I think that changing things at this point will only make it worse.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 14:07
by dealcanvey
We look more solid under Nuno. More chance of staying up under him rather than Potter.

What is concerning is not being able to hold onto a win after getting into a winning position. The desire to try and hold onto a 1 goal lead has worked out badly for us against Bournemouth and Brighton.

Have we ever looked good playing 4 cms? I am sure we will see the same against Man City but he is our 4th manager to go with this and it takes away a lot of our attacking emphasis!

Needs to be braver with his formation though as clean sheets wont keep us up. Goals will. 

 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 13:03
by Massive Attack
El Scorchio" wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 11:56
Come On You Irons" wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 11:19 Assuming we fail to beat Man City tomorrow and fall to a likely defeat, I would say a win against either Fulham on 27th Dec or Brighton on 30th.

Failure to beat Fulham would surely make Brighton the last chance saloon for him?

We should have got Sean Dyche when he was available like I advocated earlier in the season. I have never been convinced by Nuno the bus parking numpty.
No way does Nuno get fired. Sullivan 

He fucking well should if he manages to royally fuck up the next handful of games, but yes knowing the gimp in charge he'll likely reward him with a new contract instead. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 12:55
by twoleftfeet
Come On You Irons" wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 11:19 Assuming we fail to beat Man City tomorrow and fall to a likely defeat, I would say a win against either Fulham on 27th Dec or Brighton on 30th.

Failure to beat Fulham would surely make Brighton the last chance saloon for him?

We should have got Sean Dyche when he was available like I advocated earlier in the season. I have never been convinced by Nuno the bus parking numpty.
Dyche? You are a fucking clown. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 11:56
by El Scorchio
Come On You Irons" wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 11:19 Assuming we fail to beat Man City tomorrow and fall to a likely defeat, I would say a win against either Fulham on 27th Dec or Brighton on 30th.

Failure to beat Fulham would surely make Brighton the last chance saloon for him?

We should have got Sean Dyche when he was available like I advocated earlier in the season. I have never been convinced by Nuno the bus parking numpty.
No way does Nuno get fired. Sullivan knows he won't be able to get anyone better.

Dyche isn't dissimilar in how he sets up. The key is that Forest have a far better squad and a stronger and more complete first XI than us and the other sides in the bottom 4 so it shouldn't be a surprise they are moving up the table. Don't forget they were pretty dynamic and successful last season under the bloke now managing us before his relationship with the owner fell beyond repair which clearly fucked the team before the completely baffling appointment of fat Ange and his retarded way of playing which didn't suit their squad at all. I doubt Dyche would have been able to do much different to Nuno here. He might have made a few different decisions some maybe gaining us a few points and some losing a few points but he wouldn't have been able to pull a PL quality striker or left winger or centre back out of his arse. The football would be largely the same because of the limitations of what's available to any manager. As a counter to him being 'better' look how badly he was doing at Everton before being replaced by Moyes who got quite a bit more out of the same players. It's easy to look at the league table today and in hindsight go 'We should have got Dyche' but it just doesn't work like that. None of them are magicians.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 11:19
by Come On You Irons
Assuming we fail to beat Man City tomorrow and fall to a likely defeat, I would say a win against either Fulham on 27th Dec or Brighton on 30th.

Failure to beat Fulham would surely make Brighton the last chance saloon for him?

We should have got Sean Dyche when he was available like I advocated earlier in the season. I have never been convinced by Nuno the bus parking numpty.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 10:56
by northbankfrank
boleyn8420 wrote: 19 Dec 2025, 10:40 The fact that even we, as bad as we were/are, managed to beat Nuno's last side Forest 3-0, and the last time we had a clean sheet should have been a red flag when he indeed got sacked in the morning. So why then employ him. 
The managerial equivalent of buying Paul Hilton after beating Bury 10-0?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 10:40
by boleyn8420
The fact that even we, as bad as we were/are, managed to beat Nuno's last side Forest 3-0, and the last time we had a clean sheet should have been a red flag when he indeed got sacked in the morning. So why then employ him. With us losing at City and Leeds, at home, with a very real chance of beating Palace, and Forest away at Fulham, probably a draw means we are a minimum 6 points adrift going into Christmas. Glenn Roeder years anyone. But, he has improved us, apparently. FFS

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 08:42
by Massive Attack
10 points out of a possible 33 after 11 games - Around about as bad as Potter and certainly with a lower win percentage than anyone thus far. Potter had 23 points after 23 League matches. Like I've said before, it's marginally better and that's mainly because we are tighter defensively.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 19 Dec 2025, 06:30
by Texas Iron
Russ…

results count more than style …

Points on the board…after 38 PL games

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 13:37
by Mad Ferret
Texas Iron" wrote: 17 Dec 2025, 07:43 He’s only here for the cash…

Is he really better than Potter…???
It's a weird one.

He's made us back into a Moyes type of team, which is what people had had enough of under Moyes.

Potter was trying to turn us into a footballing side, but failed miserably.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 18 Dec 2025, 13:23
by Russ of the BML
Texas Iron" wrote: 17 Dec 2025, 07:43 He’s only here for the cash…

Is he really better than Potter…???
Who? Nuno?

Better than Potter? Fucking hell. Do you watch West Ham?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 17 Dec 2025, 16:57
by northbankfrank
Sir Alf" wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 14:50 Spot on.  The bittersweet aspect of relegation is knowing Sullivan’s asset “West Ham London” takes a massive hit to its value ( along with fellow shareholders who he has had veto power over ). 


 
It'd be a great outcome for those of you who hate the board more than you love West Ham

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 17 Dec 2025, 07:43
by Texas Iron
He’s only here for the cash…

Is he really better than Potter…???

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:50
by Sir Alf
Spot on.  The bittersweet aspect of relegation is knowing Sullivan’s asset “West Ham London” takes a massive hit to its value ( along with fellow shareholders who he has had veto power over ). 

 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:47
by Far Cough UKunt
Even thick skinned Allardyce was fucked around with.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:44
by El Scorchio
Sweep wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 14:20
To add re Glasner- see the Emery section above. No manager can excel at West Ham. It's impossible. Even if they do do really well despite Sullivan, he just gets jealous and wants to cut them down to size or take their credit for himself.
Yep.

All of our recent managers have been successful in different set ups at different clubs.. 

This club isn't run with any long term strategy, it's just a process of put money in for one season for a new manager as "ambition; don't sustain it, watch results falter, wait 'til the crowd turn, then sack the bloke.

The only difference is the cycle is getting shorter with managers failing to last even one season.

The recruitment of players is frequently awful though this summer's don't look bad.

This window they will buy an insurance player who they think will get the club promoted if we go down and they will look to cadge two or three they won't be saddled with if we drop.
 
 
Yes, I agree. Actually I also think Moyes was the perfect manager for Sullivan which is why he lasted so long. On shaky ground coming here, not really in a position to cause too much disruption over transfers he didn't want, even procrastinating for ages over them to suit the 'end of the window' scenario Sullivan craves, never popular enough to take away any reflected glory or become an icon or a hero to the fans and abrasive enough to keep a love hate relationship (very much Like Allardyce, the only other long term appointment) happy to work with a limited squad and budget and not get above his station either in the media or to play sexy football and become really popular and most importantly not stupid or shit enough to actually get relegated despite flirting with it. The runs in Europe and the cup win was just the icing on the cake. You could tell Sullivan was well happy having such a manager here because everything about it suited him. I believe he would have given him his new contract if he could have worked it out and I also think he'd have happily employed Allardyce for longer as well in a perfect world.

It has to straddle a fine line between being savvy enough to not get us relegated but not charismatic, popular or good enough to get the glory. Bilic clearly was the victim of his own personality and success in those respects because it threatened Sullivan and AS SOON as there was a excuse to fire him the bullet came. I don't think he will ever hire another manager who he fears will be adored. That's why there was never a cat in hell's chance of Mourinho for example. He wants someone grateful, cheap, controllable, of limited popularity and of adequate talent to keep us ticking over until (What I am sure the masterplan is) we finally get given or sold cheaply the stadium and then he takes his money and runs.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:37
by Mad Ferret
Massive Attack" wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 14:34
Eerie Decent" wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 14:22
Massive Attack" wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 13:37

I called for it at the time and hate this fucking Club's Owners for never showing any ambition getting him by paying the compensation to release him from Villarreal. Unless they're out of work costing him fuck all, he aint interested. A massive missed opportunity that's in-keeping with the BS regime of penny pinching. He would have set us up for years to come just as he's predictably doing now at Villa. 
What was your username on here when you were calling for it back then?

Wasn't calling for it on here as weren't signed up by then.
😂

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:34
by Massive Attack
Eerie Decent" wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 14:22
Massive Attack" wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 13:37
, wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 12:55 Back in the autumn  of 2022 there was the league hiatus due to the WC. It was speculated by some that it was the perfect time to jettison Moyes and replace him with Emery.

Missed opportunity?

I called for it at the time and hate this fucking Club's Owners for never showing any ambition getting him by paying the compensation to release him from Villarreal. Unless they're out of work costing him fuck all, he aint interested. A massive missed opportunity that's in-keeping with the BS regime of penny pinching. He would have set us up for years to come just as he's predictably doing now at Villa. 
What was your username on here when you were calling for it back then?

Wasn't calling for it on here as weren't signed up by then.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:22
by Eerie Decent
Massive Attack" wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 13:37
, wrote: 15 Dec 2025, 12:55 Back in the autumn  of 2022 there was the league hiatus due to the WC. It was speculated by some that it was the perfect time to jettison Moyes and replace him with Emery.

Missed opportunity?

I called for it at the time and hate this fucking Club's Owners for never showing any ambition getting him by paying the compensation to release him from Villarreal. Unless they're out of work costing him fuck all, he aint interested. A massive missed opportunity that's in-keeping with the BS regime of penny pinching. He would have set us up for years to come just as he's predictably doing now at Villa. 
What was your username on here when you were calling for it back then?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:20
by Sweep
To add re Glasner- see the Emery section above. No manager can excel at West Ham. It's impossible. Even if they do do really well despite Sullivan, he just gets jealous and wants to cut them down to size or take their credit for himself.
Yep.

All of our recent managers have been successful in different set ups at different clubs.. 

This club isn't run with any long term strategy, it's just a process of put money in for one season for a new manager as "ambition; don't sustain it, watch results falter, wait 'til the crowd turn, then sack the bloke.

The only difference is the cycle is getting shorter with managers failing to last even one season.

The recruitment of players is frequently awful though this summer's don't look bad.

This window they will buy an insurance player who they think will get the club promoted if we go down and they will look to cadge two or three they won't be saddled with if we drop.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:09
by El Scorchio
Emery- would have turned out like his time at Arsenal, not Villa. He'd have been short changed and undermined by Sullivan, given nowhere near what he wanted or needed, and made the scapegoat through cunty 'ITK leaks' and shitty disingenuous articles released through Sullivans sources to facilitate fan unrest before being fired. Rinse and repeat. 

Players this Jan- Two things are in our favour. The World Cup and Mendes. We have the golden roladex available to us AND plenty of decent players out there who will want to prove themselves worthy of a plane ticket to the World Cup and fancy their chances, and it's an audition if we go down. We can get a couple of GOOD players in on loan and I am sure sign a couple on the proviso they can leave for a certain fee if we go down and criteria are met. Mendes can EASILY park them in Saudi and get us our money back while facilitating a proper move for them. There are absolutely some strategic options on the table and in our favour.
Of course the one sticking point is whether little Napoleon plays ball and accepts he's the rank amateur here and just gets it done no questions and quickly, rather then fancying himself Mendes' equal or superior when it comes to handling players. He's got to back down eat humble pie and just go with it or we are fucked for his own good and at the stake of probably hundreds of millions of dollars for him personally. I just don't know if he's capable of it and keeping that ego in check..

To add re Glasner- see the Emery section above. No manager can excel at West Ham. It's impossible. Even if they do do really well despite Sullivan, he just gets jealous and wants to cut them down to size or take their credit for himself.