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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

So is evry 1 far right now?

WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑09 Jan 2025, 11:20 Have listened to a lot of programmes on the radio, and with some of those in both the police and social services, who tried to raise the issues and get something done about it were silenced and in some cases forced to leave their jobs. So the ones who did actually try to prevent it all happening further, in quite a few cases got in trouble, damaged their careers, or lost their jobs completely. What a beyond sad state of affairs, particularly given the crimes involved.

Noticeable also how on all of the BBC radio programmes about this, the presenters keep trotting out the “people seem to have forgotten about the victims”, “it’s become political”, “agenda driven”, blah, blah, blah.

I’d suggest that people have NOT “forgotten about the victims” at all and very much the opposite. The ‘people’ for the large part know that for a victim of any crime, 

Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 09:19 There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

I can't wait to see all these countries just queing up to sign trade agreements with us post Brexit. In fact besides the cut and paste deals we have done from our previous existing EU deals I think there has been one significant one with Australia which apparently is screwing up our framers.

Canada, US where are they? 

Ah the benefits of Brexit....not. 

 

Have listened to a lot of programmes on the radio, and with some of those in both the police and social services, who tried to raise the issues and get something done about it were silenced and in some cases forced to leave their jobs. So the ones who did actually try to prevent it all happening further, in quite a few cases got in trouble, damaged their careers, or lost their jobs completely. What a beyond sad state of affairs, particularly given the crimes involved.

Noticeable also how on all of the BBC radio programmes about this, the presenters keep trotting out the “people seem to have forgotten about the victims”, “it’s become political”, “agenda driven”, blah, blah, blah.

I’d suggest that people have NOT “forgotten about the victims” at all and very much the opposite. The ‘people’ for the large part know that for a victim of any crime, it’s paramount that those who committed the crimes are brought to proper and full justice, and that applies equally to those who were in responsible positions, who could have stopped it, but chose for whatever reasons not to, and to allow it to continue for years.

Those people HAVE to be named and made accountable, THAT will help the victims, not all, but some even and they absolutely deserve that. Also naming the people involved and the positions they are in will assist in the process of ensuring that nothing like this happens again, because this is not the Victorian age, (not that it would be ‘acceptable’ even then), but the 2000s.

A modern civilised society should NEVER accept the systematic abuse of the vulnerable as has happened, and the enablers should be called out and shamed straight away, every single time.

Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑09 Jan 2025, 01:05

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:08

Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02

Champion didn't and still doesn't  do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.

Strong enough to call it out nationally when no other cսnt would in Politics way back in 2017.

 

She knew the FULL SCALE of what was going on .and imo she didn't do enough, and still doesn't .
where is she now?...still has it's nose in the trough
STRAW was home secretary and MP for Blackburn .
I've e-mailed both over the yrs with no actual replies.
Just generic bs.
My local MP masquerades as a Tory...he's a liberal

We're heading for a war  in our land  ...and it will be  bloody.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown. 

SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑08 Jan 2025, 22:31 Goodness me. Even the BBC's left wing Political Editor is beginning to see the light:

Is Starmer leaving the door open to an abuse inquiry? - BBC News

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:08

Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown. 

Champion didn't and still doesn't  do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.

Strong enough to call it out nationally when no other cսnt would in Politics way back in 2017.

 

Goodness me. Even the BBC's left wing Political Editor is beginning to see the light:

Is Starmer leaving the door open to an abuse inquiry? - BBC News

My firend has spend most of week speeking with halal butcher abowt converting to Islam but he have such low testorone that he have zero chance of growing beard and zero chance of not drinking alkohol so it look like he stay woke alkoholik 

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑08 Jan 2025, 21:06 Goose - it was Donald Rumsfeld, Vladimir Putin and the Pope. Of course.

Goose - it was Donald Rumsfeld, Vladimir Putin and the Pope. Of course.

Usual suspects at it again……… Pickle will be on to defend their actions shortly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Milan.html

https://x.com/DrRebeccaTidy/status/1854836056115343778?t=n-cqGaXJ1qZ9v2JxHv7vDw&s=19

thread on sullivan

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:08

Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown. 

Champion didn't and still doesn't  do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.

Strong enough to call it out nationally when no other cսnt would in Politics way back in 2017.

I read somewhere that the suppressions of action and information came from bigwigs in the Civil Service. It rings similar to their response to Covid. They want to massage culture for certain groups and fuck the rest. 

Tgere are plenty of people who believe the civil service is long past its sell by date. 

I love the way that the BBC when having phone-ins and discussions on this topic, keep using the phrase ‘political capital’. IIRC it’s also a favourite of Pickles.

Why shouldn’t political capital be made out of this, especially if it be used to ensure that this disgraceful set of affairs is never allowed to happen again?

or should everyone be satisfied with a couple of ‘lessons learned’ sessions?

Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown. 

Champion didn't and still doesn't  do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown. 

A lazy spoilt middle England population who need to take a Long hard look in the mirror.
But they won't .of course they won't ..until it effects them.
If these children were named Penelope from Thame it would have been dealt with very differently .



 

Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown. 

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:53

Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 18:42

 

Good Lord! Islam is just a religion like any other. Are you part of the Spanish fucking Inquisition, you daft cսnt?

There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalism

No. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:59

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:53

Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41

There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalism

No. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.

 

If it falls to Pickle to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted posting on this football fan site with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of fair play, so be it. He is ready for the fight.

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:53

Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 18:42

 

Good Lord! Islam is just a religion like any other. Are you part of the Spanish fucking Inquisition, you daft cսnt?

There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalism

No. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.