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Whilst 'off-topic' means all non-football topics can be discussed. This is not a free for all. Rights to this area of the forum aren't implicit, and illegal, defamator, spammy or absuive topics will be removed, with the protagonist's sanctioned.
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arsene york-hunt
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Woke watch
"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."
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ironsofcanada
- Posts: 555
- Old WHO Number: 18101
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Re: Woke watch
"mashed in maryland 4:21 Wed Oct 5 As I said, it is a debate for me. I try and look at it as if she said something I completely agreed with. I think her ability to get wound up and react the way she did is the bigger concern in a practical medical sense. Over the substance of her words. Probably why she is no longer a front line nurse. Dealing with lots of medical people and ethics recently in terms of when you can ignore patient's statements in the case of old age and/or head trauma, so on my mind I guess. These are human beings, both in terms of not being manifestations of a sacred cow and but also having lots of failings and biases. Just trying to work through all sides."
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mashed in maryland
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Re: Woke watch
"A medical professional going on TV and saying patients should be allowed to die because of their voting choices is a bit beyond ""censorship"". You can only take people at their word and TBH it'd be a good idea to investigate any deaths on her watch."
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ironsofcanada
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Re: Woke watch
"Fo the Communist 3:50 Wed Oct 5 Rights and laws are not same things in most philiosophies, you need to go full Hobbesian to say they are. But you are correct, I was too broad in what I said: We have the right not to be censored as long as that which is censored does not violate the rights of others. Codes of conduct are not self-censorship (an oxymoronic term at the best of times) they are obviously enforced by an authority outside your self. You enter into them explicitly but it is no different from tacitly participating in society and thereby recognising its authorities. No stricture, law or whatever has any real validity without a mechanism of enforcement."
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Sven Roeder
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Re: Woke watch
The ONS have released the lists of popular baby names in England and Wales for 2021 After 8 years at the top of the boys list OLIVER has been deposed by NOAH Top 5 boys names NOAH OLIVER GEORGE ARTHUR MUHAMMAD Why so low for MO? Because MOHAMMED & MOHAMMAD are treatted as separate names from MUHAMMAD Ha ha ha ha
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Sven Roeder
- Posts: 86
- Old WHO Number: 11861
Re: Woke watch
The ONS have released the lists of popular baby names in England and Wales for 2021 After 8 years at the top of the boys list OLIVER has been deposed by NOAH Top 5 boys names NOAH OLIVER GEORGE ARTHUR MUHAMMAD Why so low for MO? Because MOHAMMED & MOHAMMAD are treatted as separate names from MUHAMMAD Ha ha ha ha
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
"All a bit semantic but self-censorship (which is what agreeing to professional codes of conduct might entail) is nevertheless surely censorship, albeit voluntary. I guess it comes down to interpretation of censorship and whether it has to be enforced by another party in order to meet the definition. And we don't really have the right not to be censored either do we? There are tonnes of laws that censor what we say."
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ironsofcanada
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Re: Woke watch
"Fo Not really the same we have the right not to be censored, we don't have the right to ignore Codes that we, ourselves, have agreed to follow when entering a profession. You can't be censored if you have agreed to censor yourself. I guess my question would be: is saying, not doing, something a violation of a code, in and of itself?"
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
"Irons. It's probably both isn't it. In fairness, she has taken her medicine with seemingly good grace."
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ironsofcanada
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Re: Woke watch
"Fo It's awful ""journalism"" which has become the norm and we have discussed before. To me, the actual interesting debate is whether firing her is censorship or enforcing a professional code of conduct."
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
Russ of the BML 10:50 Wed Oct 5 So this woman is definitely a paid-Labour activist now is she? Last time I looked that was merely the accusation by some no-mark on Twitter. Now apparently its fact. Her view is clearly as abhorrent as it is daft but the morphing of opinion into fact which nowadays is sadly commonplace is as equally insidious.
Re: Woke watch
"""The goal isn't to convince the other side, its to make their own side more comfortable saying that sort of stuff about the other side."" ""Yep you now have organised political fruit loops who get to despise each other on a daily basis"" Sounds like all the political arguments in here"
Re: Woke watch
"This Mermaids thing is wild. Looks to be a huge scandal about to blow up. Up there with Savile and the notorious Paedophile Information Exchange episode. People really should be behind bars eventually over this. Endorsed by politicians, corporations and celebs everywhere. Utter, utter cunts. Lists are being made."
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Fifth Column
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- Mike Oxsaw
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Re: Woke watch
Why would a charity name itself after a character who's sole role was to lure sailors to their death?
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Fifth Column
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Re: Woke watch
"Mermaids charity (the one that wants to put kids on puberty blockers and has been endorsed by celebs and politicans across the planet) has had a Trustee forced to resign after it turns out he is an apologise for paedophiles. I say ""turns out"" - he's publicly written on the subject and spoken about it. The charity knew full well what he thought. Massive nonce-movement this is."
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mashed in maryland
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Re: Woke watch
"The goal isn't to convince the other side, its to make their own side more comfortable saying that sort of stuff about the other side. The conversation on the activist hard left is probably now ""well why SHOULD they be resuscitated?"" In other news, as will come to a shock to literally no one, a trustee from the Mermaids charity has been revealed to have spoken at a pro-paedophile event: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63137873 Their day job is an associate professor of ""gender and sexuality"" at the London School of Economics. Errr.. what?!"
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Side of Ham
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Re: Woke watch
Yep you now have organised political fruit loops who get to despise each other on a daily basis‚Ķ..all views heavily grounded in our cսnt of a class system‚Ķ..worse still many choose to ridicule where they came from‚Ķ..no wonder there‚Äôs nut jobs wishing certain party voters death‚Ķ.they can see no way of solving the greedy I‚Äôm alright Jack attitude‚Ķ.
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Russ of the BML
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Re: Woke watch
"only1billybonds 7:33 Wed Oct 5 Mad. You would think as a paid activist she would be more subtle. But she goes on one show posing as a nurse saying Conservative voters should not be resuscatated and another show posing a business woman saying Brexit is the most absurd thing to ever happen in this country. I bet Starmer is watching that and thinking ""We need to ensure our double agents are a bit more conspicuous."""
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Sven Roeder
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Re: Woke watch
There have always been nutters & fruitloops of all political persuasions Just now with social media etc you see more of it and these people are able to group together more easily
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Side of Ham
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Re: Woke watch
That clip is a prime example of why there needs to be something done about party politics…..too many blinkered people choosing a side of politics and all sides are utter shit and not worthy of any loyalty….because they know this they now have extreme views through frustration….
- Mike Oxsaw
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Re: Woke watch
"Far easier to (try to) destroy someone else rather than improve yourself. Not right, just easier."
Re: Woke watch
"That clip shows the a lot of the ""caring left"" up for what a lot of them really are. Utter scum. They claim tories are evil, bit I've never seen a tory claim other people should be killed because they didn't agree with them, Or rejoicing when people die. That's a dick move. The hatred from some of the left is utterly disgusting."
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mashed in maryland
- Posts: 336
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Re: Woke watch
Always funny when rants about unnecessary stress on the NHS come from the morbidly obese.
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only1billybonds
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What is fucking wrong with some people? https://twitter.com/NickT1955/status/1577237767796322304?t=AGuIlJ61JhowmYWWLKdLeQ&s=19