Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Darlo Debs 1:51 Mon Jul 24 'Women often don't press charges through fear , you do.realise that don't you?' D'ur! 'when the law fails the victims (mostly women) and the courts don't put .abuser away for long enough it deters victims from.from.seeking help or they withdraw allegations.' Length of sentence is probably the very last thing that discourages women from testifying. Fear of retribution from family or friend would be one, being unwilling to send your children's dad away would be another, but overwhelmingly, the reason women don't testify is , 'But, I Loves 'Im, Really'"

[Nurse Ratched]

"When I was knocked about by my ex, I never presumed at the time, or since, that he did that specifically because I am a woman. I am sure he did it because he was full of frustration and I was the one getting on his nerves at the time, and we spent a lot of time together (probably a lot more time than he would wish) He did it to men, too, so his violence wasn't limited to me/women. In fact considerably more men copped it off him than I did. I don't understand the utility of the term 'gender based violence'. What's the point of it? It's all just violence."

[Darlo Debs]

*.involved with

[Darlo Debs]

"This was back.in.the early 80s Surf and the police just looked on.such occurrences as domestic disputes they'd not get in bed with. Women often don't press charges through fear , you do.realise that don't you? It's not because hhe man.hasnt done something wrong.....or vice versa. That's how domestic abusers operate, when the law fails the victims (mostly women) and the courts don't put .abuser away for long enough it deters victims from.from.seeking help or they withdraw allegations."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Darlo Debs 10:59 Mon Jul 24 'when the lawcdidnt even recognise domestic violence as a crime in itself. I remember my ex brother in law hitting my sister hecwas a 6ft pub bouncer she is 5ft 2 and had two.kids under 5 with her.' Rubbish as usual. The violence you describe has always been illegal - in you and your sister's lifetimes, anyway. There WAS a reluctance by the police to prosecute because the wife or girlfriend would invariably refuse to testify and they felt it was a waste of their time. You can blame the police for laziness and cynicism here, but not for misogyny. If you don't believe me, ask Ryan Giggs or Ravel Morrison how it works."

[Fifth Column]

"In English law there is no specific crime of domestic abuse. It is prosecuted using existing laws related to violence, coercive control etc and does not specify sex."

[Darlo Debs]

The laws I was talking to relate to.Spain and the attitudes of the Vox party. There is nothing to say our domestic violence laws can't extend to men. I don't even know that they don't Will. I'd have to Google it. Obviously you can't have men....trans or otherwise in women's refuges but that isn't to say they can't have their own safe spaces. . .

[Leonard Hatred]

"Willtell Furnish us with examples of Muslims drinking alcohol, eating bacon sandwiches and being gay."

[Willtell]

Debs No-one is suggesting scrapping any laws. Only that changing violence laws to favour women can't really be achieved without misandry (opposite of Mysogeny. I had to look it up!). If you have a good suggestion Debs we'd love to hear what it is without invoking misandry?

[only1billybonds]

"No one is saying its logical debs, its not right but that dont change the facts. Is there one of these stabby cunts thinking, hold on, better not chop him up, its against the law. Of course we need laws but to a certain type of person,they might as well not be there."

[Darlo Debs]

"O1bb with that logic we may as well scrap.all.law....those things will.haplen anyway. Murder, death by dangerous driving, fraud etc Goose the aim.isnt to protect everyone if they don't recognise the gender violence towards women existing. You can't protect people from.a problem.that you deny exists."

[goose]

"They’re proposing broadening a law to protect EVERYONE. I think that’s a good idea, Debs doesn’t. That’s about the long & short of it."

[only1billybonds]

"Debs. Do you reckon domestic violence will lessen if the laws around it are tightened? I'm telling you now it wont. By the time plod turn up, the victim has already been CLUMPED. If the abuser spends the next few months inside it wint mean the abused suffered any less. Like i said,violence is sadly built in to some people and no amount of laws will change that."

[Darlo Debs]

"O1bb I never said anywhere men shouldn't be .protected and they are..Men would still realistically be in the minority in that regard but nobody should have to put up.with domestic violence. Strengthening the law is more about punishments and dealing with the way the issue is treated etc, not a lawyer so don't know it's full provisions under our law, but probably come from.a time when the lawcdidnt even recognise domestic violence as a crime in itself. I remember my ex brother in law hitting my sister hecwas a 6ft pub bouncer she is 5ft 2 and had two.kids under 5 with her."

[Darlo Debs]

Willtell look back.through the thread...I never said men shouldn't be protected in the law. I simply said that that law would have initially been needed because women weren't getting protection from.violent men. As usual goose is making shit up ....its what he does.

[only1billybonds]

"Debs. I'm not saying what laws should or shouldnt exist. Laws mean nothing to law breakers whether they are speeding,killing or stealing etc. As for men deserving the same protection as women from abusive partners,that should be a given. My Sister has worked for a charity that helps sufferers of domestic abuse and you would be staggered if you knew the amount of men she has seen walking through the door."

[Side of Ham]

Yes okaaaaaaaaaaaay Debz……

[Side of Ham]

Yes okaaaaaaaaaaaay Debz……

[Willtell]

Debs you can't have women only laws. Violence is illegal already but the problem is proving one to one violence. How about transgender women? What happens when one lesbian attacks her lesbian partner or wife/husband? It all gets too muddled surely?

[goose]

Debs you’re denying men the same level of protection based purely on gender

[Hammer and Pickle]

CLUMP A BIRD

[Willtell]

"Spot on only1billybonds. When politicians make laws or policies to appease protest groups, they invariably end up being bad laws or policies."

[Darlo Debs]

O1bb so.if you have a party that has any power in government that denies the existence of gender based violence towards women how do you think that will help in anyway?. It hardly promotes family values if the men who are pre-disposed to beat a woman up thinks the government are effectively going to turn a blind eye to it. You can't begin to go about fixing a problem.that you think doesn't exist

[only1billybonds]

"Man on woman violence is abhorent but it will still happen whether laws are made or not. If a bloke is enough of a cսnt to clump a bird, then tougher laws wont stop them. Theft,murder,drugs and countless other things are illegal but all and more occur across the world daily. As hard as it is to swallow,some people have a shitload of anger in them and this will be expreesed through violence. If a woman is on the end of it then thats to bad ( in the eyes of the thug ibvs)"

[Darlo Debs]

Goose show me where I said that? I clearly stated that their law could be amended to.protect men....so show me the exact post where insaid .men don't need protection where necessary. Stop making stuff up.