The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Hammer I am]

I can agree with some of that 

I do get the appeal of him not being a classic politician, it IS refreshing for someone not to be afraid of offending  the usual suspects, and yes he has carried out a couple of the promises that his was elected on, but they were easy quick wins. Once the low hanging fruit is picked I think his ego may take him to more extreme areas to get the worship from some of his more fringe support. 

Let's be honest the rhetoric he was spewing when he lost the election before last was borderline unhinged, he essentially whipped up his base to the point of an attempted coup, resulting in fatalities. He's never shown any sort of reflection that any of what happened was bad. He's a narcissist sociopath, pretty much anyone that's ever worked with him has stated this. We'll see how far he's willing to go this time 



 

[only1billybonds]

I'm not blind in any way, I can totally see why people find Trump unlikeable. But he was elected on promises he made and he is keeping them. The majority of yanks are sick and tired of all the  DEI and pronoun shit, Trump has started to rid the federal institutions of this plague.

He has acted swiftly in regards to border control, again,something the American public voted for.

The whole tarrif issue is a case of wait and see, he could well be using scare tactics which worked perfectly well with Columbia the other day.

He doesn't act like a statesman because he isn't a Politician, thats how it works over there,anyone can run for office. And speaking if statesmanship, our current prime minister,our foreign secretary,the next UK ambassador to America and the current Mayor of London have at various times called him a national, white supremacist,racist etc. Why should he pay any of these (now grovelling) cunts one scintilla of respect?

No doubt he has lied but show meshe person in office who hasn't, in that respect, the're all as bad as each other. If you want an example of lying to gain power, look no further than our own Parliament or the promises made around the Brexit referendum.

Trump has been in office for a whole TWELVE says and in that time he's done more of what Americans want than the previous administration did in four years.

[Hammer I am]

Yep some people in here just cannot comprehend that if you're anti trump it doesn't t mean you supported Biden.

It's because they can only think in black and white, spending too much time on social media where everything's a dumbed down us v them argument.

There will also be  a small number here so entrenched after spending time in the pro Trump, anti Vax, deep state, pizza gate, great reset flat earth rabbit hole they are beyond saving and will absolutely never accept anything that shakes their core beliefs 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

I'm really struggling to decide what pleases me most. Those with insane amounts of TDS or those still grappling with BDS. Of course, if you're lucky enough to find someone melting down over both in equal measure then that would be a fine time.

 

 

Only I dont actually support either Trump or Biden/Harris so dont have either. Peoples definition of a meltdown seems to be someone debating an issue or who has a strong opinion on something. But whats far worse than a strong opinion is the apathetic blindness from you and others to what he is doing and the way he acts.

The US have had some questionable Presidents like George W, Reagan, Clinton but Trumps ability to politic is non-existent makes them look like Henry Kissinger. He doesnt know how a statesman is supposed to act hes turned it into a circus with his billionaire cronies, the language he uses the idiotic things he says, you think that it doesnt matter that he lies or that he is about to crash the US economy with ridiculous tariiffs thatll start trade wars and markets to fall and Pension funds will be affected. Its not like we are safe from his bonkers policies. He thinks putting tariiffs on countries directly costs those countries, but if US consumers need those products theyll have to pay more for them or the more costly US products impacting inflation figures. It makes no sense.

But you carry on thinking hes a tough mother. What a guy! Yeah he does what he said he'd do. Putins a tough mother do you want him as prime minister? Trump promised to end the Ukraine war on day 1, now no one should have believed that so did he lie or was he stupid or did he just manipulate the electorate. He promised to bring interest rates down they are firmly fixed. Oil prices now at the levels before he was President. So what has he achieved apart from deporting a few thousand immigrants, sacking a load of people, pissing off FEMA and the FAA and banning Transgenderism.

[Hammer I am]

The fact that America could only provide a senile hair sniffer and a slum landlord with the attention span of a fish  to choose from says a lot about them 

[Hammer I am]

Yes they're all as crooked as each other without a doubt, I just can see how anyone can deny that Trump is.

[THUNDERCLINT]

The ‘missing 15m democrats’ was widely reported by Sky, BBC etc et as they talked through the voting patterns following the election.

 

 

There's also the notion that 81,000,000 voters looked at the basement dwelling, child sniffing, demented potato and send YES, I want that dude running the free World...

Total fix.

[Cabbige Savage]

is it billie jennings menstrayshion time?

[THUNDERCLINT]

The previous election being rigged. LIE

15 millions votes rapidily appearing and then disappearing even quicker says otherwise.

That is an assertion by bad loser Trump and there was absolutley no proof of that and was dismissed by all the US courts. 
You need to check your facts before you make yourself look like an arse!
I thought this was a politics thread and would have some sensible fact based discussions you muppets seem totally oblivious to the dogs dinner Trump is making of his first couple of weeks in office. Anyone defending him or suggesting otherwise need to take a look over the pond before commenting.
Do you really think what the US do has no effect on the UK economy!?

 

 

The courts controlled by the most corrupt  DOJ ever and Biden who pardoned every cսnt going for crimes that haven't surfaced yet? 

It was rigged.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

The ‘missing 15m democrats’ was widely reported by Sky, BBC etc et as they talked through the voting patterns following the election.

Jeez but its been ruled out as untrue so again get your facts straight. Dear oh dear the muppets on here!

[only1billybonds]

I'm really struggling to decide what pleases me most. Those with insane amounts of TDS or those still grappling with BDS. Of course, if you're lucky enough to find someone melting down over both in equal measure then that would be a fine time.

[goose]

The ‘missing 15m democrats’ was widely reported by Sky, BBC etc et as they talked through the voting patterns following the election.

[Hammer I am]

Both sides have claimed rigged elections via missing votes, both sides wrong

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/milli ... -election/

Of course the trumpeter cult will disregard one and believe the other

[goose]

The 15m voters I’m guessing is a reference to the number of voters vs 2020. 

As for his first few weeks in office, he’s done what he said he would do - which is exactly why people voted for him. You may not like it but they do.

The direct impact on you in this country is largely the impact of a stronger dollar. The stronger USD is being driven by Trump putting American people & American businesses first. The USD rate & the markets reaction shows it’s working.

personally I’d love a British prime minister to take a similar approach.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

The previous election being rigged. LIE

15 millions votes rapidily appearing and then disappearing even quicker says otherwise.

That is an assertion by bad loser Trump and there was absolutley no proof of that and was dismissed by all the US courts. 
You need to check your facts before you make yourself look like an arse!
I thought this was a politics thread and would have some sensible fact based discussions you muppets seem totally oblivious to the dogs dinner Trump is making of his first couple of weeks in office. Anyone defending him or suggesting otherwise need to take a look over the pond before commenting.
Do you really think what the US do has no effect on the UK economy!?

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Poor old Billy has had a complete meltdown because he doesn’t like the democratically elected president of a country he doesn’t even live in.

Wow, how did he get so much sand in his vagina that far from the beach?

Yes cos nothing the yanks do has any effect on the rest of the world does it morons! 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Who's Godwin? I think you'll find Ive been on here for years so no I dont lose!

Godwin Law, brother to Dennis. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Poor old Billy has had a complete meltdown because he doesn’t like the democratically elected president of a country he doesn’t even live in.

Wow, how did he get so much sand in his vagina that far from the beach?

[goose]

Poor old Billy has had a complete meltdown because he doesn’t like the democratically elected president of a country he doesn’t even live in.

[THUNDERCLINT]

The previous election being rigged. LIE

15 millions votes rapidily appearing and then disappearing even quicker says otherwise.

[Manuel]

Is Trump being a strong leader or just a prick and a bully? I'm not sure, but he is coming over a bit like a kid in a sweet shop, and sacking people out of vengeance isn't really what western politics should be about IMO, that's third world shit. But I do like the fact that he appears to be 'non woke' and an advocate for freedom of speech. Anyway, I'm far from an expert on these matters so I'll leave it at that.

I see Stephen Fry has had his say on Musk and Twitter etc, quite interesting.

[Eerie Decent]

he wants to invade Panama and Greenland - LIE

He is offending just about every Country around the world - LIE

He thinks that adding tariiffs to all his competitors is going make the US economy and that US citizens are going to benefit yet cant work out that the effect of that will raise prices when hes promised to reduce inflation. - That's just your opinion. You have no idea how it will turn out long term. Let's wait and see.

Many of his executive orders especially the "big ones" are illegal - what ones are illegal, and in what context are they illegal?

He sacked the CEO of the FAA as a revenge for Elon Musk - PROOF? Or is that just your opinion?

Did you watch him signing the executive orders - "ooh thats a big one" fucking embarrassing. He is clueless and classless the Presidential equivalent of David Brent. - IRRELEVANT

You enjoyed Musk bouncing about and his nazi salute then what a diplomat. - LIE

You think Musk designed that rocket or just paid for it? - He's the richest man in the world, so maybe he just paid for it, who knows, who cares.

Lets face it he and Trump will end up hating each other again. - Will they, Nostradamus?

Btw he has no political experience so yes Harris would be preferable to him irrespective of her views. - Irrespective of her views. Gotcha.

[only1billybonds]

Blimey,that is some rant.

Trump fanatic? Please show where I have said I am pro Trump.

Moyes. Nope, I was overjoyed when he finally fucked off,  didn't want him in the first place.

You speak of sensible debate yet you can show nothing that backs up your claims, they are just YOUR opinions.

Finally, the fact that you have to resort to personal insults is a good indicator what you are!

 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

You are clearly so entrenched in your ideology that sensible debate is never going to happen so I'll leave it there. Maybe look at things in a few months time and see how things are. One thing is for certain,people like you will always see Trump as an equal to Satan regardless of how he governs and you will never see a positive even if its staring you in the face.

Try not to dream of the bad orange man.







 

And you are clearly a Trump fanatic that cant see simple facts, but then lying is what he does and you suck it up like a good follower! God knows anyone with an ounce of sense can see he is a fucking moron. I bet you wanted Moyes to stay too! He doesnt govern he is a dictator.. history will show this is a massive mistake which Americans will wish to forget when he is inevitably booted out of office. Thank god he cant have a third term but he's already trying to change that law too.  Putinesque don't you think!!!

Oh yes someone mentioned TDS thats what you suffer from Trump Dick Sucker!

There has been no sensible debate you keep asking questions I answer them and you cant refute them because they are factual and you know it... run along little boy you are clearly out of your depth here son!

Let me know tomorrow what the positives are and what hes acheived so far! Nighty night!

[only1billybonds]

You are clearly so entrenched in your ideology that sensible debate is never going to happen so I'll leave it there. Maybe look at things in a few months time and see how things are. One thing is for certain,people like you will always see Trump as an equal to Satan regardless of how he governs and you will never see a positive even if its staring you in the face.

Try not to dream of the bad orange man.