Patriotism

[Exiled In Surrey]

A flag should be about pride. About unity. About celebrating who we are.That’s not what’s happening right now. These England flags going up everywhere?That’s not patriotism. That’s marking territory. That’s sending a message.And the message is ugly: “This is ours. You don’t belong here.”That isn’t pride. That’s fear. That’s exclusion. That’s racism dressed up as tradition.Real patriotism doesn’t slam the door in someone’s face. Real patriotism says: we are strong enough, proud enough, confident enough to welcome others in. To share our values — values of fairness, decency, tolerance — the values that have always made Britain worth being proud of.When you turn the flag into a weapon, you betray it. You betray our history. You betray the very idea of Britain.Because the truth is this: our flag should say we belong together. Not you stay out.

[Massive Attack]

If he or anyone else was desperate for it to happen then it would have happened long ago soon after the suicide attacks in 2005, the 7/7 mass bombings, the beheading of Soldier Lee Rigby on our streets, or the attempted terror attack in 2016, Manchester Arena bombing, Westminster Bridge and Parliament attacks, London Bridge and Borough Market attacks, Parsons Green Station, Ames MP attack, Southport attack, Manchester Synagogue attack, last week's attack. 20 fucking years of this shit we've all had to put up with without so far retaliated in the hope our Governments would finally show leadership and make us safe.

If anything Pub Bigot and the vast majority of this nation have so far been extremely tolerant and patient resisting the urge to kick off, yet you are determined to paint him and others out to be something people want even though it's taken all this time to get to this sad state of affairs... 

[Vexed]

Nothing meaningful will get done by the government. When one of their own, MP Sir David Ames was murdered, the response was a crackdown on social media posts was what was needed. I used to think that if/when a family member of an MP was slaughtered they would finally wake up but I now think nothing will change.
The damage to this country is so deep and widespread that its beyond the control of the authorities to change it. Really not sure where we go from here, we really are in the darkest of days.

Civil war. And it’s going to happen now without a shadow of a doubt, where towns and cities become like Belfast during the Troubles. 

And my question to the authorities and government is why shouldn’t it? They can’t project the people of this country, they actively work against the majority, and are they expecting the population to sit by idly why people are raped and killed while our towns and cities are flooded with backward third worlders who have no respect for our culture and no intention of fitting in. They’re not refugees. 

The rallies in London and the flags being hung were a warning to sort the mess out before the people decide to. 

Fucking hell, you're desperate for this to be something to justify your roundabout painting  aint ya? 

[Pub Bigot]

Nothing meaningful will get done by the government. When one of their own, MP Sir David Ames was murdered, the response was a crackdown on social media posts was what was needed. I used to think that if/when a family member of an MP was slaughtered they would finally wake up but I now think nothing will change.
The damage to this country is so deep and widespread that its beyond the control of the authorities to change it. Really not sure where we go from here, we really are in the darkest of days.

Civil war. And it’s going to happen now without a shadow of a doubt, where towns and cities become like Belfast during the Troubles. 

And my question to the authorities and government is why shouldn’t it? They can’t project the people of this country, they actively work against the majority, and are they expecting the population to sit by idly why people are raped and killed while our towns and cities are flooded with backward third worlders who have no respect for our culture and no intention of fitting in. They’re not refugees. 

The rallies in London and the flags being hung were a warning to sort the mess out before the people decide to. 

[Massive Attack]

It'll take a generation possibly to get over it and reverse the trend it's been going in since the turn of the millennium. Mass casualties etc has become normalised because of our gutless self loathing Britian/Western hating Politicians. That does rely heavily on the people voting extremely wisely for the next few general elections however. It starts with Reform and it's there's to fuck it up. Finger's crossed that doesn't happen otherwise we could well be screwed long in to this Century as well. A lot at stake but it's not terminal, yet...

[only1billybonds]

Nothing meaningful will get done by the government. When one of their own, MP Sir David Ames was murdered, the response was a crackdown on social media posts was what was needed. I used to think that if/when a family member of an MP was slaughtered they would finally wake up but I now think nothing will change.
The damage to this country is so deep and widespread that its beyond the control of the authorities to change it. Really not sure where we go from here, we really are in the darkest of days.

[Massive Attack]

More eye witness accounts of the mass stabby cunts shouting ALAN'S SNACKBAR.

10 hospitalised, 9 life threatening. Barbaric bastards, I hope they get served up themselves in nick eventually.


 

[Massive Attack]

More roundabout painting accounts of what happened...



 

[Massive Attack]

The speed and scale of the police response suggests they knew this was about to happen


 

No other explanation for such a fuck off scale response. They (sadly) train for this shit.

2 Air Ambulances, scores of Ambulances and Police cars, a number of armed Counter Terrorism Police (clue's in the name) on the platform but let's hold our fucking horses and not believe it's anything other than Terror-related..

For a bit more context, Peterborough has a high presence of Muslims living there which was the last stop the Train was at shortly before leaving southbound on this LNER Service.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

The speed and scale of the police response suggests they knew this was about to happen
 

[Massive Attack]

From what I can glean from it, those on the ground say they heard shouts of ALAN'S SNACKBAR. Seeing how society has clearly gone right up the spout up and down the Country along with the mega response to the incident (armed Counter Terror Cops on the scene in numbers ), I think it's highly unlikely to be anything other than a Terror attack. County Line walleys tend to keep their nut down and do it behind closed doors, not going in to Allah Rambo on a busy Saturday night commute home. 

Only seeing talk of a single attacker, could just as easily be mental health given the description. Havent read anywhere reputable reporting about his snack bar preferences.

Well, the police have arrested two people. Perhaps one was just a fare-dodger

Yeah, it's definitely got that kind of feel to it. Bloody fare dodgers, swinging their huge knives about stabbing many people randomly all misunderstood and shit.

Fuck knows why the Emergency Services overreacted so much, as well as closing the busy train line down for the night.

Eye witness at the scene thinks it was 12 people stabbed by at least 1 black fella he saw. Sky also saying 2 men have been arrested.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16uE37Trkf/

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

From what I can glean from it, those on the ground say they heard shouts of ALAN'S SNACKBAR. Seeing how society has clearly gone right up the spout up and down the Country along with the mega response to the incident (armed Counter Terror Cops on the scene in numbers ), I think it's highly unlikely to be anything other than a Terror attack. County Line walleys tend to keep their nut down and do it behind closed doors, not going in to Allah Rambo on a busy Saturday night commute home. 

Only seeing talk of a single attacker, could just as easily be mental health given the description. Havent read anywhere reputable reporting about his snack bar preferences.

Well, the police have arrested two people. Perhaps one was just a fare-dodger

[Vexed]

From what I can glean from it, those on the ground say they heard shouts of ALAN'S SNACKBAR. Seeing how society has clearly gone right up the spout up and down the Country along with the mega response to the incident (armed Counter Terror Cops on the scene in numbers ), I think it's highly unlikely to be anything other than a Terror attack. County Line walleys tend to keep their nut down and do it behind closed doors, not going in to Allah Rambo on a busy Saturday night commute home. 

Only seeing talk of a single attacker, could just as easily be mental health given the description. Havent read anywhere reputable reporting about his snack bar preferences.

[Massive Attack]

From what I can glean from it, those on the ground say they heard shouts of ALAN'S SNACKBAR. Seeing how society has clearly gone right up the spout up and down the Country along with the mega response to the incident (armed Counter Terror Cops on the scene in numbers ), I think it's highly unlikely to be anything other than a Terror attack. County Line walleys tend to keep their nut down and do it behind closed doors, not going in to Allah Rambo on a busy Saturday night commute home. 

[Vexed]

A fleet of fucking Ambulances for 1 stabbing incident. Fucking sick of this shit... 

Think I'd be waiting for a more reputable source than a load of mini roundabout painters.

That part of the world I'd have put on eastern Europeans being involved, or pro Palestinian nutters but I agree, if it's migrants stabbing up innocent commuters it's going to fucking go off. It probably should go off regardless of who was responsible, unless it was a load of county lines cunts getting offed. Fucking hell. 

[Massive Attack]

A fleet of fucking Ambulances for 1 stabbing incident. Fucking sick of this shit... 

[Massive Attack]

Around 10 people stabbed. I'm so fucking ready for it...

[Massive Attack]

In Huntingdon now on a LNER Train service between Stevenage and Peterborough.. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... xXgcBWCHIw

Stabby wanker cowards. Fucking sick of it!

[Pub Bigot]

Surrey son, here’s some unfiltered takes on migrants. Unless you come here with the intention to integrate while offering something of value, access is denied. If you come here illegally and are found in an enclave that is culturally alien to the UK, I’d euthanise that person under my rule because the host nation would not accept them back. 

Do not come here illegally.

[Massive Attack]

Shit just got real.

[Russ of the BML]

Marking territory

 

But the whole of the UK is that territory, so it's population are fully entitled to "mark it". All of it.

The issues start when some newcomers insist on creating enclaves within that legally mark-able territory, whether or not the locals within who's community these newcomers live agree and accept.

If these newcomers didn't come to the UK to become an integrated part of UK society, why, exactly, did they come?

Had the positions been reversed, would they accept the same things happening in their own country of birth?

If the practice of doing such things (eg. In the days of the British Empire) is now widely accepted as wrong, why try to continue/revise & promote, even, such practices in the 21st century?

That's easy. They come here because they literally have to do nothing to integrate. They can remain as secular and silo'd from British Culture. They simply join up with their communities who are also completely and utterly divided from British Culture and, in many cases, actively are against British Culture. 

And you may ask, if they are so uninterested or against British Culture, then why come here? Well, that's easy too. For the hand outs. Housing, healthcare, PIP's, disability. I mean, they love all the things they get for free but don't want fuck all to do with the state that provides it. 

I may refer you to the cases in France at moment. Numerous immigrants who were deported within the 'one in on out' scheme are now seeking legal action because the French state won't provide them with free housing. Guess what they want? Yes, they want to come back to UK. 

And, I think you know the answer to your question about would they accept it in their country. No, of course not. 

It's an absolute joke and its no wonder that its looking likely Reform may win the next general election. 

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

If these newcomers didn't come to the UK to become an integrated part of UK society, why, exactly, did they come?

Had the positions been reversed, would they accept the same things happening in their own country of birth?

If the practice of doing such things (eg. In the days of the British Empire) is now widely accepted as wrong, why try to continue/revise & promote, even, such practices in the 21st century?

 

 

 

 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Marking territory

 

 

But the whole of the UK is that territory, so it's population are fully entitled to "mark it". All of it.

The issues start when some newcomers insist on creating enclaves within that legally mark-able territory, whether or not the locals within who's community these newcomers live agree and accept.

If these newcomers didn't come to the UK to become an integrated part of UK society, why, exactly, did they come?

Had the positions been reversed, would they accept the same things happening in their own country of birth?

If the practice of doing such things (eg. In the days of the British Empire) is now widely accepted as wrong, why try to continue/revise & promote, even, such practices in the 21st century?

[OK_Guy]

Marking territory

I piss up against lamppost, confuses the mutts. 

[Exiled In Surrey]

Marking territory

[THUNDERCLINT]

If you're not interested my my options why do you constantly stalk me?
You're a conspiracy theorist which makes you thick as shit with zero debating skills

Because, 

You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You know you NONCE, we're sure you NONCE,
You're R-A-P-E-Y. 

Brilliant response well thought out and very educated 

You forgot witty.

We didn't forget...

You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You know you NONCE. We're sure you NONCE.
You're R-A-P-E-Y.