Boxing

[Nutsin]

Fights that would have had a different outcome if both fighters were in their prime.

I’ll go Hagler v Leonard and Tyson v Hollyfield.

Who you got?

[zico]

Eubank Snr has always been and always will be a cսnt in my book. Granted a hard tough cսnt, but  had the worst and least valued belt at the time, WBO and never left the UK to fight abroad from my recollection.
Benn fought anyone, anywhere in their backyard. Was superb in the States when he done DeWitt.


 

Dewitt wasn't much of a fighter though. Hopkins, Nunn, McCallum, Toney, Jones Jnr, all were the best about back then, Benn fought none of them.

Was intrigued about this so been doing some googling.  Not sure if true but apparently -

"Benn's fight with McClellan wasn't initially on the cards. The promoter first offered Michael Nunn as an opponent but wanted Benn to take a $100,000 pay cut. When Benn refused, he got an ultimatum: fight Nunn or face a "mini-Mike Tyson" in McClellan."

"Just before the Eubank-Benn rematch in 1993. Toney held the IBF super middleweight title, which he'd defended twice in the U.S. before facing Roy Jones Jr. in 1994. Obviously he lost that fight, and afterwards he moved up to light heavyweight (and beyond).

Both Eubank and Benn stayed at super middleweight after their second fight so having a weight disparity plus the barrier of finding a compelling reason to cross the Atlantic for a fight seemingly prevented them from ever fighting Toney."

Couldn't find too much re Benn vJones Jnr

[Lee Trundle]

Looks like the cringefest of AJ v Jake Paul might actually happen in December.

[Council Scum]

Eubank Snr has always been and always will be a cսnt in my book. Granted a hard tough cսnt, but  had the worst and least valued belt at the time, WBO and never left the UK to fight abroad from my recollection.
Benn fought anyone, anywhere in their backyard. Was superb in the States when he done DeWitt.

 

Dewitt wasn't much of a fighter though. Hopkins, Nunn, McCallum, Toney, Jones Jnr, all were the best about back then, Benn fought none of them.

[Council Scum]

I never met him but I never liked Eubank.

Gary stretch is a bit of a cսnt, his brother Roni is a likable character though.

I like Benn the person and the fighter, same with Lennox Lewis.



 

Gary Stretch got a slap off the long fella in a boozer back in the day.

[Takashi Miike]

bertie, his first few pro fights (four rounders) were in america but I agree, he never went over at his peak and took on the best

[BerlingtonBertie]

Eubank Snr has always been and always will be a cսnt in my book. Granted a hard tough cսnt, but  had the worst and least valued belt at the time, WBO and never left the UK to fight abroad from my recollection.
Benn fought anyone, anywhere in their backyard. Was superb in the States when he done DeWitt.

 

[Far Cough UKunt]

What the fuck was Eubank on about in that clip? Sounded like a lot of mumbo jumbo.

[Nutsin]

I never met him but I never liked Eubank.

Gary stretch is a bit of a cսnt, his brother Roni is a likable character though.

I like Benn the person and the fighter, same with Lennox Lewis.



 

[Lee Trundle]

Benn was my favourite boxer growing up.

He was a Yid 

 

That's hit me harder than when I found out Father Christmas wasn't real.

[Council Scum]

Benn was my favourite boxer growing up.

He was a Yid 

[Lee Trundle]

Looks like he brought up Conor well, also.

[Lee Trundle]

Benn was my favourite boxer growing up.

[Council Scum]

I've never, ever liked Eubank.

That interview just confirms everything I think of him.

I never liked Chris, but then I never liked Benn, neither of them are particularly nice people, but I did love watching Benn fight. 

[Lee Trundle]

I've never, ever liked Eubank.

That interview just confirms everything I think of him.

[Gary Strodders shank]

I watched a documentary last night on the Eubanks 
It was mostly set around the build up to the first Benn fight where Chris snr was adamant that his son would be risking his life by boiling down to the lower weight of 11 6.

They stopped talking until he decided to show up to support his son on the day 

As for making the weight he was correct as Chris junior ended up in hospital for three days after severely dehydrated.

The dynamic overall seems to be love hate with the boy having to live up to his dad's name and his old man pretty much taking over and speaking for him earlier in his career before jnr decided to put distance between them and be his own man.

[Takashi Miike]

[Nutsin]

I love these clips of prime Tyson training. He was a beast!

[Massive Attack]

I was still serving in 1990 when the Benn/Eubank pre fight  was in full swing.
Benn served in the RRF and fought in the Army boxing team ..i was on remedial SWIMMING and Benn was using military bases for fitness ..courtesy of the Army Boxing Team..
His taste in music was dog shit...and a bit of a pillock .
But that's the Army...if you excel at any sport you get away with anything

My uncle knew him an all whilst also serving and being based out in Germany back in those times. 

Your Uncle was in  RRF in 1990.?...Paderborn?...they had 3 battalions back then...now down to 1.
one of the battalions was in NI back then...not sure which one

He was stationed out in northern Ireland during the 80s as well as served out in Bosnia later on whilst based in West Germany a lot of the time think osnabruck. Come out warrant officer in the end and still keeps his nose in doing some work down at larkhill and tidworth. 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

You'll find most fighters did back then, most of the 80's top fighters were on coke. 

I was still serving in 1990 when the Benn/Eubank pre fight  was in full swing.
Benn served in the RRF and fought in the Army boxing team ..i was on remedial SWIMMING and Benn was using military bases for fitness ..courtesy of the Army Boxing Team..
His taste in music was dog shit...and a bit of a pillock .
But that's the Army...if you excel at any sport you get away with anything

My uncle knew him an all whilst also serving and being based out in Germany back in those times. 

Your Uncle was in  RRF in 1990.?...Paderborn?...they had 3 battalions back then...now down to 1.
one of the battalions was in NI back then...not sure which one

[Gary Strodders shank]

I only just realised Mitchell Smith won a European belt on the undercard Saturday.

I know Mitchell and his family and watched him develop into a fine prospect at super featherweight before it all went to his head and he ended getting banged up

Every time he tells the story of his subsequent weight gain he seems to add a stone or two and it's now eighteen and a half stone now but nonetheless to lose that weight and get back to challenging for titles is pretty remarkable.

At 32 he has little time to lose and needs to get down to superfeather again as he is to small for a lightweight but if he can hold it together could well be in some entertaining fights going forward.

A showman who leaves it all in the ring.


 

Was a decent fight as it goes, probably a little to early for Arnie, who I've watched a bit under Martin, but he didn't disgrace himself at all. 

Yeah it was decent and both came out of it with credit

I think Mitchell maybe got into Dawson's head a bit too.

He (Mitchell)  took the fight he says at ten days notice and had only been sparring for six or eight rounders so didn't know whether he could go the distance.

A few days prior to getting the offer he was talking about quitting as he was only being offered journeymen on small hall shows and not making any money.

He is now calling out Josh Warrington again ten years or so after originally dubbing him feather fists.

One career soared to great heights whilst the other nosedived spectacularly mostly through a total lack of self discipline.

[Council Scum]

I only just realised Mitchell Smith won a European belt on the undercard Saturday.

I know Mitchell and his family and watched him develop into a fine prospect at super featherweight before it all went to his head and he ended getting banged up

Every time he tells the story of his subsequent weight gain he seems to add a stone or two and it's now eighteen and a half stone now but nonetheless to lose that weight and get back to challenging for titles is pretty remarkable.

At 32 he has little time to lose and needs to get down to superfeather again as he is to small for a lightweight but if he can hold it together could well be in some entertaining fights going forward.

A showman who leaves it all in the ring.

 

Was a decent fight as it goes, probably a little to early for Arnie, who I've watched a bit under Martin, but he didn't disgrace himself at all. 

[Gary Strodders shank]

I only just realised Mitchell Smith won a European belt on the undercard Saturday.

I know Mitchell and his family and watched him develop into a fine prospect at super featherweight before it all went to his head and he ended getting banged up

Every time he tells the story of his subsequent weight gain he seems to add a stone or two and it's now eighteen and a half stone now but nonetheless to lose that weight and get back to challenging for titles is pretty remarkable.

At 32 he has little time to lose and needs to get down to superfeather again as he is to small for a lightweight but if he can hold it together could well be in some entertaining fights going forward.

A showman who leaves it all in the ring.
 

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If the tenth round had still 30 seconds left Wardley’s assault would have lead to the ref stopping the fight. As it was Parker went into the eleventh round still visibly shaken by the effect of the battering taken at the end of the tenth.

Did the referee stop the fight too early? No but his timely intervention prevented Wardley having the satisfaction of decking his opponent. 

[Council Scum]

The fight was stopped too early. Parker was ahead, Wardley was swinging but in danger of gassing himself out. Parker deserved the chance to carry on. I know he was under pressure, but he wasn’t getting pummelled.

Yep he was clearly gassed with punches that weren't doing much damage at that point with Parker soaking up all the pressure with his guard still up defending it. He collapsed in sheer exhaustion whilst Parker argued with the Ref about what he was playing at. He punched himself out and it prevented Parker from having his turn after weathering the storm just as they both did throughout the fight. It's what was making it so fascinating to watch and yet Howard does what he's always done jumping in for too early unnecessarily spoiling the fight in the end.

Parker hadn't thrown a shot in 20 odd seconds, he took nearly 30 shots without throwing, he then threw two desperate swings that land near Wardleys arms, he then got hit again and stumbled back onto the ropes and then got hit by 3 shots, first and last weren't clean, but the hook landed crisp and was a decent shot. 

All this "Wardley was gassed" is bollocks, they were both tired but Parker wasn't coming back he was getting hurt and was gonna get more hurt. 

[Massive Attack]

The fight was stopped too early. Parker was ahead, Wardley was swinging but in danger of gassing himself out. Parker deserved the chance to carry on. I know he was under pressure, but he wasn’t getting pummelled.

Yep he was clearly gassed with punches that weren't doing much damage at that point with Parker soaking up all the pressure with his guard still up defending it. He collapsed in sheer exhaustion whilst Parker argued with the Ref about what he was playing at. He punched himself out and it prevented Parker from having his turn after weathering the storm just as they both did throughout the fight. It's what was making it so fascinating to watch and yet Howard does what he's always done jumping in for too early unnecessarily spoiling the fight in the end.