Bondi Beach attack

[Mr Anon]

Two armed terrorists -Looks nasty,

[fraser]

There is a city/country divide in Australia
Inner city Melbourne is definitely left of centre … and yes you’d regard it as the cultural & sporting capital of Australia 
Cricket, 10 of the 18 AFL teams, tennis Grand Slam & a F1 race
Great restaurants & coffee too
You should go it’s a brilliant city


 

Nah, hasn't got a patch on Sydney, as to inner city Melbourne being left of center, more like left of left!!! Don't mind Melbourne for a weekend visit, great cafes and restaurants so agreed on that but fuck living there, the Harbour city is hands down far superior.

And bollocks to all that AFL nonsense, Sydney is first and foremost a Rugby League epicenter, a game far superior to that shit called Aussie rules.

Not sure about that, only been to Sydney twice to be fair but most I speak to who visit Australia always say Melbourne is their favourite city. 

Aussies are very competitive about where they live aren't they. Very rarely speak to an Aussie who doesn't think their particular suburb or city is the best.. You seem to have caught that Sydney son  

The amount of Aussies I've met who have never left the country or in some cases their state who are convinced there is nowhere better but have nothing to compare it to. 

I like Australia it was great while bringing up a family but the nightlife is seriously lacking.. Tabs for pubs etc... Most restaurants shut early.. Only decent in a few areas. 

[twoleftfeet]

All I know about Melbourne is it rains a lot! My son has had more matches called off there in 2 months than in 3 years in the UK

[Mr Anon]

There is a city/country divide in Australia
Inner city Melbourne is definitely left of centre … and yes you’d regard it as the cultural & sporting capital of Australia 
Cricket, 10 of the 18 AFL teams, tennis Grand Slam & a F1 race
Great restaurants & coffee too
You should go it’s a brilliant city


 

Nah, hasn't got a patch on Sydney, as to inner city Melbourne being left of center, more like left of left!!! Don't mind Melbourne for a weekend visit, great cafes and restaurants so agreed on that but fuck living there, the Harbour city is hands down far superior.

And bollocks to all that AFL nonsense, Sydney is first and foremost a Rugby League epicenter, a game far superior to that shit called Aussie rules.

like two bald men fighting over a comb

[Far Cough UKunt]

GAYFL

[Sydney_Iron]

There is a city/country divide in Australia
Inner city Melbourne is definitely left of centre … and yes you’d regard it as the cultural & sporting capital of Australia 
Cricket, 10 of the 18 AFL teams, tennis Grand Slam & a F1 race
Great restaurants & coffee too
You should go it’s a brilliant city

 

Nah, hasn't got a patch on Sydney, as to inner city Melbourne being left of center, more like left of left!!! Don't mind Melbourne for a weekend visit, great cafes and restaurants so agreed on that but fuck living there, the Harbour city is hands down far superior.

And bollocks to all that AFL nonsense, Sydney is first and foremost a Rugby League epicenter, a game far superior to that shit called Aussie rules.

[Fauxstralian]

There is a city/country divide in Australia
Inner city Melbourne is definitely left of centre … and yes you’d regard it as the cultural & sporting capital of Australia 
Cricket, 10 of the 18 AFL teams, tennis Grand Slam & a F1 race
Great restaurants & coffee too
You should go it’s a brilliant city
 

[Sydney_Iron]

I know I could look myself, but what are the polling trends Down Under? And which states swing right/left on these issues. Been a while since I was there but didn't it use to be Queensland were conservative and Victoria Liberal?

Or is it like elsewhere where wealthy urban white people vote liberal along with the self interest of the immigrants? And the poorer whiter suburbs vote socially conservative parties? Is there a viable populist movement there like in Europe?

Victoria is maybe the most left-wing state, especially Melbourne and Queensland the most right wing, the rest chop and change and are more center than anything, even New South Wales current Labor (thats how its spelt down under!) state government is maybe seen by its Victorian counterparts as right wing! 

Melbourne or more specifically inner-city Melbourne sees itself as the cultural and arts capital of Australia and i think the wokery goes hand in hand with that! Country and rural areas in Oz tend to be the right-wing party's strongholds, the inner city's the left, so yeah, a bit like the rest of the western world.

And yes we have our version of Reform, but been around here for about 15 years i think, called One Nation and currently on the rise, last poll i saw was 16% up from about 10% a year ago, conversely we have the very left Greens party who did well when they stuck to climate issues and won a few seats, 5 i think, 3 in Melbourne but branched out into the usual social justice issues a couple of years ago and it's all backfired and they lost all but one seat at the last election.

[Massive Attack]

Love this proper accountable reporting from Sharri Markson sticking it on these plebs in parliament..


https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... 1765843092

Wish we saw more of that here.

[wils]

Someone mentioned why did it make any difference that the brave man who wrestled the gun off one of the terrorists was a Muslim 
I replied because maybe it points out that not every Muslim is a dangerous terrorist 
A view many on here spout 
Many includes you I suspect

I see over $1m in donations has been raised in Australia to support this brave Aussie who is being treated for gun shot wounds
A fruit shop owner who stepped in and put his own life at risk & probably saved many more lives 

Not sure I follow your logic. You can think that 99.99% of Muslims are law abiding nice people working as doctors and engineers paying all their tax and still think that the 0.01% that aren’t pose such a threat to conclude their presence as a whole is to the country’s detriment. So why would you expect such a person change their mind when one of the 99.99% of good Muslims demonstrates heroism?


You may argue just the 0.01% are the problem so filter for them and problem solved. But aren’t the authorities trying that already? And if you continue with a liberal immigration policy that 0.01% is going to increase in absolute numbers of baddies and they are having a disproportionate effect on culture of their host countries. 

I can see what’s to gain from making personal statements about your own openness to different cultures and religions and not wanting to be seen as narrow minded and bigoted - it is indeed a superior trait so go ahead and wear it on your sleeve - but the receipts for the consequences of adopting that attitude as government policy are in and the story of a hero from the vast majority of good Muslims doesn’t confound the conclusion people will draw that mass immigration has degraded our nations’ quality of life. 

[northbankfrank]

One Sunny They has posted twice on this thread, only to mention the guy that intervened.

Not a single mention of anything to do with the actual massacre.

Sven done exactly the same thing. Funny, I remember them going absolutely mental about some tweets that were sent to some footballers after a penalty shootout. 

 

 

They simply do not understand the site rules do they?  The far right can speculate over the religion of anyone who commits an attrocity.  If you are site bore Oxsore you can even falsely name a perpertrator.  But mentioning a non white or potential Muslin in a positive light is an absolute no no.  They'll learn.

[Fauxstralian]

Someone mentioned why did it make any difference that the brave man who wrestled the gun off one of the terrorists was a Muslim 
I replied because maybe it points out that not every Muslim is a dangerous terrorist 
A view many on here spout 
Many includes you I suspect

I see over $1m in donations has been raised in Australia to support this brave Aussie who is being treated for gun shot wounds
A fruit shop owner who stepped in and put his own life at risk & probably saved many more lives 

[Eerie Decent]

One Sunny They has posted twice on this thread, only to mention the guy that intervened.

Not a single mention of anything to do with the actual massacre.

Sven done exactly the same thing. Funny, I remember them going absolutely mental about some tweets that were sent to some footballers after a penalty shootout. 

[Cabbige Savage]

His name is Ahmed al Ahmed

 

 

 

 

So good they name him tworice

[Ron Eff]

Well done to the guy who took the shooter down.

If some pen-pushing civil servant gets an honour higher than this guy in the King's New Years Honour list, then that says all we need to know about the way the establishment ranks it's priorities and respects it's citizens.

His name is Ahmed al Ahmed and he is a Syrian Muslim so, therefore, according to many on here, a cսnt who should be booted out of the country for not assimilating to Western culture.

I find this one of the most mental justifications. 

[wils]

Well done to the guy who took the shooter down.

If some pen-pushing civil servant gets an honour higher than this guy in the King's New Years Honour list, then that says all we need to know about the way the establishment ranks it's priorities and respects it's citizens.

His name is Ahmed al Ahmed and he is a Syrian Muslim so, therefore, according to many on here, a cսnt who should be booted out of the country for not assimilating to Western culture.

Yep folks. You lot looking to deport people from cultures you perceive as hostile are just ungrateful. If we didn't have mass immigration there would be no Ahmeds to save you from, erm, immigrants.  

[One Sunny Day]

Well done to the guy who took the shooter down.

If some pen-pushing civil servant gets an honour higher than this guy in the King's New Years Honour list, then that says all we need to know about the way the establishment ranks it's priorities and respects it's citizens.

His name is Ahmed al Ahmed and he is a Syrian Muslim so, therefore, according to many on here, a cսnt who should be booted out of the country for not assimilating to Western culture.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Well done to the guy who took the shooter down.

If some pen-pushing civil servant gets an honour higher than this guy in the King's New Years Honour list, then that says all we need to know about the way the establishment ranks it's priorities and respects it's citizens.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Where's all the "blood" disappeared to on that bloke's t-shirt just below his left ear?

[BRANDED]

I have to say I think it's time that platforms like Twitter should be taken down.  The hate and conspiracy has spiralled out of control.  Social media has created a lot of the current problems in this world radicalising easily led minds with rubbish like this.  Some deeply distubed individuals out there.

Yeah, the holocaust was because of social media. Social media can amplify stuff but most people will remain pretty sensible as most people are. 

The question has always how you identify and deal with cunts.

[zico]

I have to say I think it's time that platforms like Twitter should be taken down.  The hate and conspiracy has spiralled out of control.  Social media has created a lot of the current problems in this world radicalising easily led minds with rubbish like this.  Some deeply distubed individuals out there.

[Mr Anon]

Ron
What it does prove is that not every Muslim is a terrorist fanatic
Which seems to be a common view on here

1billybonds son … his immigrant son … seems to have inherited his fathers views
Melbourne is a great city and Australia is a country built on immigration. They even accept right wing Poms and tolerate those cricket fans … Nigel Farages Gammon Army … with their tedious songs and chants 

 

I don’t think anyone believes that. But a sample of data of say, what, the last 20 similar events and there is a common denominator. It feels to me that making a point about the faith of one person who intervened is done so as a point scoring exercise to almost in some way diminish or devalue the seriousness of the original crime. One that is being repeated all too frequently. Why can’t people point out the obvious connections without apologists saying “yeah, but…”. Sometimes there are no buts. 

talking about the "yeah, buts" I work with a couple of muslim guys, I'm not exaggerating to say they are the most kind, generous people I've ever met, few years ago when I went through a bad patch with health and money, one would deliver groceries to me without asking, just used to say I've left something outside your door, he flat out refused to be compensated for it.

I say all this because despite all this, they would still see the need to say "yeah but" when I was talking about how awful the synagogue attack was, and when the good moderate muslims cant out and out condemn attacks on jews without adding a little disclaimer at the end then I think we have a real problem

[Nurse Ratched]

Inclusion does not work, diversity does not work. We need to only allow those in who wish to abide by our laws, our culture and our ways. 

What are "our ways" though?

Christmas Trees?

Seems to me more Germanic than "ours".

How about 'not shooting people because they're a different religion'? Or rights for women? Or speak Eniglish skillfully? 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Inclusion does not work, diversity does not work. We need to only allow those in who wish to abide by our laws, our culture and our ways. 

What are "our ways" though?

Christmas Trees?

Seems to me more Germanic than "ours".

[twoleftfeet]

Inclusion does not work, diversity does not work. We need to only allow those in who wish to abide by our laws, our culture and our ways. 

[wils]

The Aussies are even more woke than us... Well apart from the rednecks

Maybe down in Melbourne they are and now regretting it with soaring crime due to soppy sentences and kids being released without charge due to their age, not to mention the apologies and pandering to the indigenous community at the expense of everyone else, and how dictator Dan locked down during COVID!

The rest of Australia looks on bemused by it all, but it’s coming to an end, next state election the woke will be shown the door going by the polls, but never say never with Victorians!!!

Death toll is now 16, seems it was a father and son, dads dead and his kid who was on a terror watch list looks like he will pull through and spend the rest of his life in maximum security.

The question now is why was Dad was able to get a firearm license and then buy 6 guns??!?

on a positive note the bloke who tackled one of them and so stopped more killing is a Muslim, just goes too show they are not all bad eggs, good for him, being touted a national hero,

I know I could look myself, but what are the polling trends Down Under? And which states swing right/left on these issues. Been a while since I was there but didn't it use to be Queensland were conservative and Victoria Liberal?

Or is it like elsewhere where wealthy urban white people vote liberal along with the self interest of the immigrants? And the poorer whiter suburbs vote socially conservative parties? Is there a viable populist movement there like in Europe?