West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[Mex Martillo]

With the massive apart from not winning enough games, I am ok with what Nuno has done. We are playing better than under the other recent managers. 
We still have a long way to go before relegation. No need to panic after a narrow loss to the 3rd from top and a painful loss to 2nd and now 1st. Also for me we come back up in 1-2 years no worries. What do we want today from Fulham Forest, a draw I suppose?

[BoleynGone]

Anyone wanting relagation is mad.
We don't have any kind of structure for it. We will sink for a lomg,long time.
The players that will go 100%
Paqueta
Bowen
Fernandes
AWB
Summerville
Diuof

That leaves us with
Areloa 
KWP
Kilman
Todibo
Mavropanos
Wilson
Magassa
Potts
Can see those players agents of Aeola and Todibo seeking a move. Most of the youth would stay but some would leave like Kante,a promoted team would love him.Kilman should go as I can't see any level for him

We would need a manager who knows the Championship very well,somone available. Not sure that he would leave but Liam Rosenoir would be a good shout,he did well at Hull on a tight budget.Mysterious sacking..though at Hull he was seen as a defensive coach. Doing very well in France with Strrasbourg.
 

[nychammer]

Win 3 of next 4 is bare minimum for sure. That and actually sign players that are actually effective in the January window to give us the boost we need. 

I think we’re fucked personally. I hope I’m wrong I really do but we don’t have the right manager for this type of fight, our chairman is a penny pinching cսnt who won’t back him anything like what he needs anyway, the current squad just aren’t up to it and even if they were our home advantage is non existent.

And yet we better had stay up because we are facing the nightmare scenario of being relegated having lost our spiritual home and increasingly our identity. How many you reckon we’ll get over there as a struggling championship outfit? It’ll be like a county cricket match. 

and if you think relegation rids us of the dwarf think again. He may want to sell but not as a championship club who don’t own their own ground. He will try to get us promoted back to the PL but as others have pointed out we don’t have the heart and soul as a club for that fight. I don’t know where we go from here. 

 

[Keep dreaming]

Blame Relegation on Sullivan …

How can anyone pick THREE INCOMPETENT MANAGERS in a row…???

An INCOMPETENT CHAIRMAN…

Wiping hundreds of MILLIONS off the club’s Value…following Relegation…

Agree! This isn't Nunos fault. We have been in free fall since the departure of Rice because of incompetence of the board 

Nuno isn't a good manager, but no-one could save us from going down with the players available.

SULLIVAN HAS TO BE TARGETED AS THE CULPRIT!

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

I think we’re gone already under Nuno. I can’t see where the bus driver wins another match, let alone grabs 7 points or more over those above us.

The transfer window looks like it’s going to lead to more destruction of the club long term than any short term bump.
 

[Texas Iron]

Blame Relegation on Sullivan …

How can anyone pick THREE INCOMPETENT MANAGERS in a row…???

An INCOMPETENT CHAIRMAN…

Wiping hundreds of MILLIONS off the club’s Value…following Relegation…

[Sir Alf]

Im getting used to the idea of relegation and the Championship next season.  See no way back now even though there are 20 games left. We cant score enough and over rely on one player and cannot keep a clean sheet regardless of the opposition. And with Sullivan and Brady leading our transfer business in Jan it all suggests too little, too late. Sullivans asset will take a big hit in value is small comfort but something. 

Next weeks protest should be interesting though. 

[Vexed]

Looks like we're in deep fucking shit. I blame Nuno for throwing away games and points like Elton John fucking spunks his money. Wasn't expecting much today but bringing Kilman back in is mental and starting with no striker is also fucking ridiculous.

We need three very good signings and a bit of luck now. I'm not confident we'll get the signings judging by the shit we've been linked to and the silly slag negotiating. Oh well championship and knowing Sully's wealth has taken a considerable hit might not be too bad. 

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[Iron Duke]

It does feel like everything is going against us this season. We could conceivably finish with 45 points and still get relegated. If we had signed Calvert-Lewin he would be permanently in the treatment room.

Relegation doesn’t bother me anymore. I don’t really like modern football with VAR, shit refereeing and players rolling on the floor and diving. The tourists can fuck off. Maybe we are in need of a re-set.

[Massive Attack]

I honestly can't see how changing the manager would make much difference. Our squad is absolute fucking dogshit. 

You're right though, Nuno has lost it. He condemns Kilman to the bench for 3 games then mysteriously brings him back,  his weird inverted full back experiment which failed once so spectacularly that he thought it made sense to try it again, his continual use of Rodriguez etc etc

 

I do get that, it's just how poorly he has done overall in the points we've picked up and how badly we play looking so incoherent. Also the fact he continues to make decisions with repeated self-inflicting gunshots to both feet needlessly. Examples being underplaying a decent Prem Striker Wilson, banishes Ward-Prowse from the Squad the second he walks in, plays full backs on the wrong side of defence, Paqueta up top, switching between an unsettled back 3/4, awful Subs.

So it goes beyond just having a dogshit squad which is undeniable and we do cut him some slack with it. If this really is how he wants to go about it then an early change may well be a better option than this. Proof of how it could work? Take Forest the Team he left early doors and Dyche turning them around instantly, relying on the same set of players and sticking to good ideas and motivating them to perform above usual levels.

 

I get that, too... and some decisions are plain baffling. I just cant imagine who is out there that could do better with this detritus. That bench today was dreadful 

It was but again, partly of his own making. Ward-Prowse should at least be an option on there, so should Earthy and Marshall but instead he floods it mainly with Defensive players which says everything. No doubt his hands are tied but fuck me, this prat is actively trying to saw his own arms off with a circular saw at the same time.

[Sir Alf]

It feels “pivotal” and essentially sees us cut adrift

[onsideman]

I honestly can't see how changing the manager would make much difference. Our squad is absolute fucking dogshit. 

You're right though, Nuno has lost it. He condemns Kilman to the bench for 3 games then mysteriously brings him back,  his weird inverted full back experiment which failed once so spectacularly that he thought it made sense to try it again, his continual use of Rodriguez etc etc

 

I do get that, it's just how poorly he has done overall in the points we've picked up and how badly we play looking so incoherent. Also the fact he continues to make decisions with repeated self-inflicting gunshots to both feet needlessly. Examples being underplaying a decent Prem Striker Wilson, banishes Ward-Prowse from the Squad the second he walks in, plays full backs on the wrong side of defence, Paqueta up top, switching between an unsettled back 3/4, awful Subs.

So it goes beyond just having a dogshit squad which is undeniable and we do cut him some slack with it. If this really is how he wants to go about it then an early change may well be a better option than this. Proof of how it could work? Take Forest the Team he left early doors and Dyche turning them around instantly, relying on the same set of players and sticking to good ideas and motivating them to perform above usual levels.

 

 

I get that, too... and some decisions are plain baffling. I just cant imagine who is out there that could do better with this detritus. That bench today was dreadful 

[THUNDERCLINT]

We have to win the next 4. It's as simple as that even 3 wins and a draw won't be good enough.

Nuno will bottle it, we'll win 2 max, most likely win 1, draw 1 and lose 2.

Leeds win today has almost certainly relegated us.

[Sir Alf]

Who does Sullivan bring in? Manager number 5 ? Whos out of work that will come and be able to get this squad getting far better results?

Any ideas anyone? Nuno’s choice of Kilman today, not giving Earthy a place on the bench were depressing. Ok he has few options. Mavro scored an own goal ny alliwing Wstkins to get across him against Vills but was it that bad to put Kilman back a bloke that has been making gaffs most games and is as sliw as they come

A very very depressing xmas for all West Gam fans

[Come On You Irons]

Five awful transfer windows in succession in the two and half years since Rice was sold have led to this slow death of the club's Premier League status.

I remember stating on here in Summer 2024 that that particular transfer window was dreadful and that the squad was awful and I was ridiculed by the usual suspects on here for being a doom-monger whilst they were proverbially sucking off 'guru' Tim Steidten.

Well, who's laughing now?

The serious money spunked on Fulkrug, Summerville, Kilman, Mavrapanos, Todibo, JWP, Alcaraz, Hermansen amongst others is simply unforgivable.

Bad boards get relegated. It's coming home to roost this season for the bad boards of West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

[Massive Attack]

3-0 now and should be 5 or 6

We are in serious shit and lack the urgency that both Forest and Leeds have managed to grasp. Nuno has created a significant 5 point gap (6 if Forest get any result tomorrow) that could very well widen keeping him. 

[Mad Ferret]

When was the last time we actually played well and out played the other team? Ipswich last season? Maybe Newcastle away??
 

Forest away and Newcastle at home this season.

[Massive Attack]

I honestly can't see how changing the manager would make much difference. Our squad is absolute fucking dogshit. 

You're right though, Nuno has lost it. He condemns Kilman to the bench for 3 games then mysteriously brings him back,  his weird inverted full back experiment which failed once so spectacularly that he thought it made sense to try it again, his continual use of Rodriguez etc etc

 

 

I do get that, it's just how poorly he has done overall in the points we've picked up and how badly we play looking so incoherent. Also the fact he continues to make decisions with repeated self-inflicting gunshots to both feet needlessly. Examples being underplaying a decent Prem Striker Wilson, banishes Ward-Prowse from the Squad the second he walks in, plays full backs on the wrong side of defence, Paqueta up top, switching between an unsettled back 3/4, awful Subs.

So it goes beyond just having a dogshit squad which is undeniable and we do cut him some slack with it. If this really is how he wants to go about it then an early change may well be a better option than this. Proof of how it could work? Take Forest the Team he left early doors and Dyche turning them around instantly, relying on the same set of players and sticking to good ideas and motivating them to perform above usual levels.

[Sir Alf]

3-0 now and should be 5 or 6

[Sir Alf]

Leeds absolutely pummelling Palace.  

Palace have either inploaded or Leeds are a lot better than when they played us. Suspect a bit of both

We dont gave the fire power to get out of this imo.  Cannot see a way back even with 20 games to go.

Changing manager is not the silver bullet unfortunately. This squad and their characters are just not strong enough. Leeds fighting for every ball. Our lot watching as players go by them

 

[goose]

When was the last time we actually played well and out played the other team? Ipswich last season? Maybe Newcastle away??

we have been seriously shit for about two years now.

maybe the board will roll the dice one more time in January but it will take something pretty drastic to change the trajectory of the club.

[Takashi Miike]

[onsideman]

I honestly can't see how changing the manager would make much difference. Our squad is absolute fucking dogshit. 

You're right though, Nuno has lost it. He condemns Kilman to the bench for 3 games then mysteriously brings him back,  his weird inverted full back experiment which failed once so spectacularly that he thought it made sense to try it again, his continual use of Rodriguez etc etc

[pdcwhu]

Calm down you Cunts

[Mad Ferret]

Sullivan clearly thought the 3 coming up would go straight back down again.

He took a risk, and it backfired.