The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Fauxstralian]

We can get there in the end , Billy 
What do YOU think should be the penalty in each case?

I think the Labour politician should have got a year, a lifetime ban from public office & a million pound fine
Gastonbury bloke was making a political comment against a foreign military force committing atrocities. Think that comes under free speech. Penalty … must appear at Glastonbury for the next 20 years with all fees going to charity 
The Tory woman incited the murder of identifiable groups. 5 years in jail, million pound fine 

You?

[Massive Attack]

Is that Goose?

No, it's a Goat.

Hth

[goose]

Is that Goose?

Christmas Eve and I’m still living in your head rent free  

What does “I am a Muslim I don’t care rate Christmas’ even mean? At least make it make sense.


Ive just got home from mass btw. I reckon that’s pretty Christian.

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JK wrote “The US (or rather Trumps administration) are fighting for free speech not to control it in their favour.”

The above statement is at odds with the facts whereby Trump does his best to either shut down or have removed from post those that, in popular media, have different views to him. How “free” is speech when simply having a different view to the President can result in pressure being put on the outlet to remove the individual the President takes a dislike to?

Trump is acting in a way that absolutely shows he wants to bring the media to heel such that only favourable comments about him are available. The good thing is that at last sentient Americans are seeing what he is up to.
 

[Nutsin]

Is that Goose?

[only1billybonds]

It all falls under the banner of hate speech.
Bullshit but thats where we are.
If the woman can get 31 months for what she said, then surely the Labour councillor should have been given a similar sentance.
Again, had someone took the stage at Glastonbury and was chanting that Palestinians be killed, i really don't think they'd have got off scott free.

 

[Fauxstralian]

I’m not excusing anyone
Im asking what you think should be the penalty for the Labour bloke, Glastonbury bloke & the Tory moron woman?
Prison term or no sanction whatsoever?
I understood you thought Tory woman inciting mass murder should have received no penalty

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

So the USA have banned five Europeans and stopped them entering the country and exercising their right of free speech.

Oh and these five do not give a fig about what the USA does within its borders they just don’t want the free run that the media gets in the USA  which allows. hatred, lies, deliberate misleading.

As Nutsin inadvertently demonstrates on here the gullible need protecting.


 

No, it’s the opposite. These people have been pressuring US tech companies into undermining free speech. They represent a strict left wing European DSA policy and shouldn’t have any authority to do so there.

These people represent an ideology that has seen Britain become the number one nation for arrests for online comments.

The US (or rather Trumps administration) are fighting for free speech not to control it in their favour.

[only1billybonds]

'Slit the throats of right wingers' is more than a vague threat. Can you possibly imagine if a right leaning Tory directed such a comment at Rayner et al? He'll breaking loose would be just the beginning.
But you carry on excusing those on 'your' side Sven, its what lefties do best.

[Massive Attack]

So , twoleft, what sentence are you saying the bloke who made a general vague threat against right wingers & the Glastonbury bloke against an entire foreign military should have got?
A few years or get off free as you recommended for the Tory woman?
A woman who made a specific incitement to murder asylum seekers by burning down hotels 

And so it begins..

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JK wrote at 15.58 “No, it’s the opposite. They have banned them from the US for pressuring US tech companies into censoring speech the Europeans don’t like.”

So the USA have banned five Europeans and stopped them entering the country and exercising their right of free speech.

Oh and these five do not give a fig about what the USA does within its borders they just don’t want the free run that the media gets in the USA  which allows. hatred, lies, deliberate misleading.

As Nutsin inadvertently demonstrates on here the gullible need protecting.

 

[Fauxstralian]

So , twoleft, what sentence are you saying the bloke who made a general vague threat against right wingers & the Glastonbury bloke against an entire foreign military should have got?
A few years or get off free as you recommended for the Tory woman?
A woman who made a specific incitement to murder asylum seekers by burning down hotels 

[Nutsin]

So the country, where media oligarchs and the President champion free speech, will not grant visas to enter to five Europeans because they don’t like what they have to say.

The five people concerned are not racist, misogynistic, war mongering or religiously bigotted either.

No, it’s the opposite. They have banned them from the US for pressuring US tech companies into censoring speech the Europeans don’t like. 

Exactly Jaan. We all know what the EU and British Gov’t are doing. It’s not rocket science.

Amyone who speaks out against them they go after them. Look at what they are trying to do to Farage.

Same play book we have by the Dems over here against Trump. Calling someone Racisy It’s all they have. They do it because the idiots fall for it over and over again. 

[Massive Attack]

*Battens down the hatches for the incoming mental gymnastics*

[twoleftfeet]

The dopey Tory cow Connolly was jailed for inciting murder
Get it right

 

 

The dopey Labour cսnt Ricky Jones however got let off despite putting his fingers across his throat and saying death to right wingers. 

The dopey left wing rap artist Bob Vylan also let off despite saying death to the IDF

Two tier? You’d better fucking believe it. 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

So the country, where media oligarchs and the President champion free speech, will not grant visas to enter to five Europeans because they don’t like what they have to say.

The five people concerned are not racist, misogynistic, war mongering or religiously bigotted either.

No, it’s the opposite. They have banned them from the US for pressuring US tech companies into censoring speech the Europeans don’t like. 

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So the country, where media oligarchs and the President champion free speech, will not grant visas to enter to five Europeans because they don’t like what they have to say.

The five people concerned are not racist, misogynistic, war mongering or religiously bigotted either.

[Takashi Miike]

[Massive Attack]

And Brian Connolly was found guilty of murdering his lines in Eastenders but even he didn't get almost 3 years in nick like she did.

[Fauxstralian]

The dopey Tory cow Connolly was jailed for inciting murder
Get it right

[Fauxstralian]

Who is in jail for criticising the government?

Kemi Babadook & Nazi Nigel criticise the government every week
Nige was complaining about the government not letting him trail hunt with his fox hunting mates just last week
When is he coming up for sentencing?

[Cabbige Savage]

Not sure about how many are doing bird (Connolly springs immediately to mind) for it but think I heard something like 8000 arrests for it recently and now more than Russia (that we can rely on..). Not good direction of travel.

The process is the punishment 

[goose]

Not sure about how many are doing bird (Connolly springs immediately to mind) for it but think I heard something like 8000 arrests for it recently and now more than Russia (that we can rely on..). Not good direction of travel.

Sadly for Nutsin, crime data is published. 

absolutely nobody has been charged with or put in prison for speaking out about the government. A handful have gone to prison for incitement.

[goose]

Which law makes it illegal to speak out and criticise the current (or any) government? I've constantly spoken out about them and am considering turning myself in.

No surprise an Eyetie wanting to surrender 

No surprise the sites thickest poster misses the point.

You should consider turning yourself in next time you visit Cambodia. That young girl deserves justice.

[XKhammer]

Which law makes it illegal to speak out and criticise the current (or any) government? I've constantly spoken out about them and am considering turning myself in.

No surprise an Eyetie wanting to surrender