The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Hammer I am]

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.

That cant be true, you said someone a brief with an IQ of a sponge would have got her off.

You didn't answer my question, if an iman at a mosque say used exactly the same words, but just substituted the word hotel for schools, you wouldn't see that as some sort of incitement?

How about what that Labour Councillor said? Why didn't he get a 3 stretch as well?

Yeah I completely agree with that, law needs to be blind to agendas and sides and it currently isnt, it does favour the left. doesn't change the fact what she said was incitement though

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

‘Set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards’

Nothing to see there 

You've edited that to change it's meaning.

Absolute last resort of the scum-bag, leftie, anti-Semite, Muslim-loving, Britain-hating cսnt that you are.

[Nutsin]

Bill Maher talking sense.

[Massive Attack]

Unlike our Lady Brady who is all fur coat and no knickers, this kinky foreign bastard is all furskin whilst wearing frilly knickers. 

 

[OK_Guy]

The little shit was even invited in to Buckingham Palace at one point to hold audience with the Queen. Rumours amongst Courtiers is that he was later caught fur deep playing among underage girls with Andrew formerly known as Prince. The pictures apparently would blow your mind involving marmalade spread, the job lot the filthy fucker. 

no doubt the little furry cսnt will be invited to do a BBC interview with Emily Maitlis to prove he was innocent of his grooming activities at the Palace... it's also rumoured, that he will appear on Question-Time soon, extolling the benefits for illegal-immigrants in the UK... honestly speaking, you really couldn't make this shit up.

[Massive Attack]

The little shit was even invited in to Buckingham Palace at one point to hold audience with the Queen. Rumours amongst Courtiers is that he was later caught fur deep playing among underage girls with Andrew formerly known as Prince. The pictures apparently would blow your mind involving marmalade spread, the job lot the filthy fucker. 

[OK_Guy]

How about what that Labour Councillor said? Why didn't he get a 3 stretch as well?

he pleaded 'not guilty'.

[OK_Guy]

I wonder how many complaints the bbc got for showing that film about the Peruvian illegal immigrant coming to London while all the Reform Christians wanted was to pretend to want peace on earth & goodwill to the all men
Bastards rubbed it in the next day by showing Paddington 2 and all

At least this illegal immigrant got his just deserts and got banged up at one point, the little furry sandwich munching, rabies-addled cսnt. 

I'll have you know, that little illegal furry thing that's been stuffed more than a turkey, you could actually call it a straw-bear, was made in Whitechapel... the fake news the BBC push out just to get your sympathy, illegal immigrant?, fuck right off, just another home-made narcissist. 

[Massive Attack]

I wonder how many complaints the bbc got for showing that film about the Peruvian illegal immigrant coming to London while all the Reform Christians wanted was to pretend to want peace on earth & goodwill to the all men
Bastards rubbed it in the next day by showing Paddington 2 and all

At least this illegal immigrant got his just deserts and got banged up at one point, the little furry sandwich munching, rabies-addled cսnt. 

[Eerie Decent]

well she pleaded guilty for a start

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.

That cant be true, you said someone a brief with an IQ of a sponge would have got her off.

You didn't answer my question, if an iman at a mosque say used exactly the same words, but just substituted the word hotel for schools, you wouldn't see that as some sort of incitement?

How about what that Labour Councillor said? Why didn't he get a 3 stretch as well?

[Fauxstralian]

I wonder how many complaints the bbc got for showing that film about the Peruvian illegal immigrant coming to London while all the Reform Christians wanted was to pretend to want peace on earth & goodwill to the all men
Bastards rubbed it in the next day by showing Paddington 2 and all

[Mike Oxsaw]

Fuck me, there's some sad cunts on here, the last couple of days. Image spending Christmas ranting a load of false bollocks on the internet while raging against people who dont really affect you.
I had a lovely dinner with my family.

The true "sad cunts" are those who fall for all this Christmas shit without question,  year after year.

Is this "Christmas shit" in the room with us right now? Tell us what it is about it that enrages you so?

I suspect it may well be, but it probably looks like decorations and a tree with some twinkly lights on it.

It's not even an original celebration - it was hijacked and supplanted the celebration of the Winter Solstice, which, at least was in praise of the approach of Spring and the ability to plant crops; a practical and useful calendar event.

If you're going to show "peace & good will to all men" (what about the women, don't they get any?), why not do so all year long, rather than on just one virtual signalling day in that year?

You want/need to have a fairy story dictate your life on a regular annual basis, crack on.

[One Sunny Day]

Fuck me, there's some sad cunts on here, the last couple of days. Image spending Christmas ranting a load of false bollocks on the internet while raging against people who dont really affect you.
I had a lovely dinner with my family.

The true "sad cunts" are those who fall for all this Christmas shit without question,  year after year.

Is this "Christmas shit" in the room with us right now? Tell us what it is about it that enrages you so?

[Mike Oxsaw]

Fuck me, there's some sad cunts on here, the last couple of days. Image spending Christmas ranting a load of false bollocks on the internet while raging against people who dont really affect you.
I had a lovely dinner with my family.

The true "sad cunts" are those who fall for all this Christmas shit without question,  year after year.

[One Sunny Day]

Fuck me, there's some sad cunts on here, the last couple of days. Image spending Christmas ranting a load of false bollocks on the internet while raging against people who dont really affect you.
I had a lovely dinner with my family.

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

It's also quite ridiculous how you liberal morons alway try to associate a housewife (?)  shitposting on twitter in the aftermath of 3 children being murdered to a radical hate cleric.

house wife, or hate cleric is completely irrelevant, and since you're all about following the law to the letter of course you know that don't you. I used the example because I knew you'd be a hypocrite about it. PS I'm not liberal, I'm just not a fucking cheerleader and a hypocrite when "my side" is in the wrong for once

Actually it's not irrelevant and would form a large part of the prosecution. The hate preacher would like have a large body of work to draw from when attempting to prove his intent and therefore make reasonable doubt a much higher threshold to achieve.

And you used it as an example because the intent is to use the example to demonize Connolly. It's very basic NLP, mention the words radical, hate etc in an attempt to subconsciously link them to her.

And if you're not a liberal then you must be a commie shitcunt.

[Hammer I am]

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

It's also quite ridiculous how you liberal morons alway try to associate a housewife (?)  shitposting on twitter in the aftermath of 3 children being murdered to a radical hate cleric.

house wife, or hate cleric is completely irrelevant, and since you're all about following the law to the letter of course you know that don't you. I used the example because I knew you'd be a hypocrite about it. PS I'm not liberal, I'm just not a fucking cheerleader and a hypocrite when "my side" is in the wrong for once

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

It's also quite ridiculous how you liberal morons alway try to associate a housewife (?)  shitposting on twitter in the aftermath of 3 children being murdered to a radical hate cleric.

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

right right, adding "for all I care" at the end of an inflammatory sentence means you're not angry at all, lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

"for all I care" is very much used at the end of a statement declaring an outcome you would actually like to see, and if we're playing this game where you pretend to be My Thickie, she said it after the burning hotels things, but notably before the "and take all the politicians with you" so in your interpretation she cares for that part to happen at least then

It doesn't matter if she was angry, it doesn't matter if she'd have enjoyed watching it.

What matters is did she intend to encourage or incite people to do it beyond a reasonable doubt.

The very fact the meaning of the post can be argued creates a reasonable doubt.

As I said, leave it to the grown ups.

[Hammer I am]

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely charges the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

 

 

right right, adding "for all I care" at the end of an inflammatory sentence means you're not angry at all, lets hope all the radical hate clerics don't find out that loophole.

"for all I care" is very much used at the end of a statement declaring an outcome you would actually like to see, and if we're playing this game where you pretend to be My Thickie, she said it after the burning hotels things, but notably before the "and take all the politicians with you" so in your interpretation she cares for that part to happen at least then

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse:

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is not in the same ballpark as "go to hell", especially as people were quite willing to take the first statement at face value 

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far.

You've just created reasonable doubt. You're saying she's expressing an opinion about it not an instruction to do it.

I told you a someone with the IQ of a sponge could defend her.

[THUNDERCLINT]

well she pleaded guilty for a start

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.

That cant be true, you said someone a brief with an IQ of a sponge would have got her off.

Well it can be true because I suggested her brief was at best, politically motivated, at worst, bent, not stupid.

You should really leave this to the grown ups.

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse:

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is not in the same ballpark as "go to hell", especially as people were quite willing to take the first statement at face value 

"for all I care" that right there disqualifies the statement as a encouragement. She's not telling people to do it, she's statement how she'd feel if it happened. 

Lack of empathy is not a crime.

The only part of the statement that qualifies as an expression of a desired outcome is "mass deportations now".

 

the "for all I care" is a statement that she doesn't think that's going too far, not that she doesnt care either way, you're really are trying too hard not to understand this

OK then, so if a musliim said

set fire to all the fucking primary schools full of western kids for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them"

you wouldn't have a problem with it no?, 

 

 

Whether I have a problem with it is irrelevant. What's relevant, for the purpose of a criminal conviction, is the what is actually meant by the statement and the author's intentions.

 "For all I care" is a very important part of the statement because it completely changes the the intent of everything that comes before and after.

This is primary school level language comprehension, so I see why you're struggling.

[Hammer I am]

Who do you know personally that was incited to act on that comment? Yourself? Those nearest & dearest to you who share a common mindset? Your postman? The bloke stacking shelves at your local supermarket? The homeless in your area? Those among your acquaintances who care about their country?

well she pleaded guilty for a start

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.

That cant be true, you said someone a brief with an IQ of a sponge would have got her off.

You didn't answer my question, if an iman at a mosque say used exactly the same words, but just substituted the word hotel for schools, you wouldn't see that as some sort of incitement?

[THUNDERCLINT]

I gave far cough the benefit of the doubt he was being deliberately thick, with you I'm not so sure

Who do you know personally that was incited to act on that comment? Yourself? Those nearest & dearest to you who share a common mindset? Your postman? The bloke stacking shelves at your local supermarket? The homeless in your area? Those among your acquaintances who care about their country?

well she pleaded guilty for a start

Out of fear of a longer sentence and mostly likely tainted legal advice.