Nuno Out

[northbankfrank]

2,500 posts by the end of the season?

[theaxeman]

I think its time to give Billic the chance to turn it around. 
See we're linked with Enketia and Traore, ffs what a shambles.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Nuno, please, fuck off.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

We would have been better off keeping Potter over this tramp.

[Massive Attack]

Couldn't even beat a Fossil XI Brighton side with our last win coming 9 fucking games ago against the mighty newly promoted Burnley. 

14% win rate.. get out of our Club Nunothing you absolute clueless clown!

[Maverick180180]

Congratulations Nuno
after several defeats on the trot you’ve finally managed the result you set out for every game - a precious draw 

[Massive Attack]

If he loses tonight, he better hope for a quick getaway..

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[BerlingtonBertie]

‘he’s a good bloke’ - when he’s thrown at least 3 games with bizarre selections. Ive heard it all now.

[factory seconds]

i don't know if bilic is actually any good as a manager, but it would feel like the support having a man on the inside and might at least give us some short term boost. i can feel myself lurching back into the couldn't give a toss realm and whatever fatalism towards where our club is going is eased by the idea that the barrowboy and the cսnt will finally have to face the music. 

would still like it to work out under nuno though. his football might have the same conservative philosophy that moyes bored my tits off with but he's a good bloke.

[Massive Attack]

He’s absolutely done better than you might expect purely off his cleverness and poachers instincts but he’s levels below what we need especially in terms of fitness speed and physicality against premier league defenders week in week out. 

That might be so, but he has given us a fuck load more than Paqueta this season so far when he's started, the man who is starting ahead of him, in a position no one can work out. THAT is the point.

No one is saying he's prime R9, but come on, I expect this sort of ridiculous chat from that plank threesixty, but you're better than this. Wilson should have started over Paqueta against Fucking Fulham at home, it's not even worthy of debate.

Paqueta has been a disgrace to the shirt over the last couple of months, he's been more of a hindrance than a net positive. He's been so shit, I'd sooner start the competition winner Marshall over him, let alone Wilson.

I agree on the face of it. This is why I am supposing there are more factors in play with Wilson and the management of his minutes because let’s face it Nuno does not have form for leaving out strikers when he has them available any other place he’s managed. It only ever happens at West Ham, and to multiple managers. 

Not specifically Strikers but he does have form for leaving out other players that are available to him here. This aint a contract, West Ham issue, this is a nutty Nuno issue to purposely leave players out that make little sense. 

[El Scorchio]

He’s absolutely done better than you might expect purely off his cleverness and poachers instincts but he’s levels below what we need especially in terms of fitness speed and physicality against premier league defenders week in week out. 

That might be so, but he has given us a fuck load more than Paqueta this season so far when he's started, the man who is starting ahead of him, in a position no one can work out. THAT is the point.

No one is saying he's prime R9, but come on, I expect this sort of ridiculous chat from that plank threesixty, but you're better than this. Wilson should have started over Paqueta against Fucking Fulham at home, it's not even worthy of debate.

Paqueta has been a disgrace to the shirt over the last couple of months, he's been more of a hindrance than a net positive. He's been so shit, I'd sooner start the competition winner Marshall over him, let alone Wilson.

I agree on the face of it. This is why I am supposing there are more factors in play with Wilson and the management of his minutes because let’s face it Nuno does not have form for leaving out strikers when he has them available any other place he’s managed. It only ever happens at West Ham, and to multiple managers. 

[Eerie Decent]

He’s absolutely done better than you might expect purely off his cleverness and poachers instincts but he’s levels below what we need especially in terms of fitness speed and physicality against premier league defenders week in week out. 

That might be so, but he has given us a fuck load more than Paqueta this season so far when he's started, the man who is starting ahead of him, in a position no one can work out. THAT is the point.

No one is saying he's prime R9, but come on, I expect this sort of ridiculous chat from that plank threesixty, but you're better than this. Wilson should have started over Paqueta against Fucking Fulham at home, it's not even worthy of debate.

Paqueta has been a disgrace to the shirt over the last couple of months, he's been more of a hindrance than a net positive. He's been so shit, I'd sooner start the competition winner Marshall over him, let alone Wilson.

[Massive Attack]

He actually got unlucky having to put up with such Superstar signings as Tore, Zaza, Calleri, Fletcher, Fernandes, Martinez, Nordtveit at the unfinished toxic Shithole when he really wanted the likes of Willie Carvalho in a redeveloped Stadium which was only completed after his recommendations once he left for others to benefit from instead. The Payet thing was a myth anyway but we did that to death the last time so agree to disagree on that one.

[twoleftfeet]

I’ve said it before, Bilic got lucky having Payet. 

[Massive Attack]

The only Way I would want Bilic is if he was playing center half.

I'd happily have Bilic to end of season, and then have him move onto a DoF role. He's a qualified lawyer, a shrewd guy, and gets the Club.

Could bring a guy like Carrick in under him (or let him have his pick). But I could see him in a suit for us straddling football and corporate. Would be a fan of that.

The incumbent is taking us down anyway. I don't want Bilic as our manager long term, but if happily have him involved at Club level some how.

What if he did come in and did a really good job, still upstairs? 

[stubbo-admin]

The only Way I would want Bilic is if he was playing center half.

I'd happily have Bilic to end of season, and then have him move onto a DoF role. He's a qualified lawyer, a shrewd guy, and gets the Club.

Could bring a guy like Carrick in under him (or let him have his pick). But I could see him in a suit for us straddling football and corporate. Would be a fan of that.

The incumbent is taking us down anyway. I don't want Bilic as our manager long term, but if happily have him involved at Club level some how.

[Massive Attack]

He’s absolutely done better than you might expect purely off his cleverness and poachers instincts but he’s levels below what we need especially in terms of fitness speed and physicality against premier league defenders week in week out. 

I'm not seeing this weak, uncompetitive, slow Striker though and has been performing as expected. He still looks quick in both body and mind with sharp reactions since playing for us. He looks over his past injuries and like what I see when he does get put on the pitch. He looks like he's chomping at the bit to play more too but is unnecessarily held back. Play him more and he'll do the rest. 

[threesixty]

He’s absolutely done better than you might expect purely off his cleverness and poachers instincts but he’s levels below what we need especially in terms of fitness speed and physicality against premier league defenders week in week out. 

 

 

I think that’s the point I’ve been making as well. On paper his approach sort of makes sense. I.e. don’t build a team to play with a target man that might not be available and we don’t have a backup for. 

he’s probably had to work very hard in training with the squad to work out patterns of play that don’t involve Wilson. It’s pragmatic I suppose. 

I think he just didn’t realise how poor our senior forward players are in finishing. We are creating chances so part of the plan worked. I just think he hasn’t managed the optics here. From a simplistic point of view it does look mad not playing your best finisher in a relegation battle. The fans will accept it if he gets injured or your team doesn’t know how to play when he’s off the pitch. I think we did the same with Andy Carroll tbh. The fans seemed to accept BFS had no other way of playing without Carroll and we dropped liked a stone until he came back. No one really seemed to have a go at Sam for not having a plan B here. And Sam built the narrative that his hands were tied and it’s all about getting great players and you can’t coach shit players etc.  and the fans lapped it up. 

It’s showbiz at the end of the day. No one wants the detail they just want the show. The idea that an experienced manager isn’t playing his best finisher every second he can because he’s just plain stupid is a simple story to digest. And that’s what everyone thinks and they’ll kick him out on that narrative. (Forget the improvements to all the other squad players, Todibo, Killman, AWB etc… this is the hill our fans will die on). 

It’s a shame. 
but it’s Nuno job to manage the optics and the team at the same time I suppose. He gets paid enough. I just hope he gets a window like all the other abject failures our fans have given a ridiculous amount of time to fail with. 

[BoleynGone]

I don't want to see more than 5 defensive players on the bench. 
The other 4 have to be Summerville,Marshall,Guilherme,Earthy.
there's enough cover with Myers,Golambeckis/Kante,Soucek,Irving/Rodriguez

[El Scorchio]

He’s absolutely done better than you might expect purely off his cleverness and poachers instincts but he’s levels below what we need especially in terms of fitness speed and physicality against premier league defenders week in week out. 

[ragingbull]

The only Way I would want Bilic is if he was playing center half.

[Massive Attack]

A goal (and an assist) every 156 minutes given only 6 (5 under Nuno) starts out of 18 League matches he's been available to play in all season is pretty good having to feed off scraps. 

The same Striker remember that was laughably taken off soon after the restart in the Bournemouth game on a likely Hat-Trick. 

[El Scorchio]

I agree he’s the best of what we’ve got but I’m going to have to say was recently a proper striker rather than is. He’s just not up to scratch in 2026. You can tell he’s got talent from little flashes and glimpses and the mind is sharp but physically he’s just not there. If he was we’d never have got him. 

[Massive Attack]

Wilson still is a proper Striker. He just needs to play regularly from the start. Agreed on not having any stupid half measures.

[El Scorchio]

Well according to the bbc website he ‘will be backed’ in January so he’s not going anywhere at least for now. I do make that the least bad option personally given our situation provided he is indeed backed fully and not with stupid half measures like a freebie from Brighton’s reserves or a past it cripple who was once a proper striker. 

[theaxeman]

Apparently, we've bought 56 and only 2 have gone on to score 20 goals in their West Ham career! Not in a season, their entire West Ham career!!!!

 

Carroll, C Cole and Sakho have all scored 20+  career goals for West Ham. 

Premier league goals, but the point stands I think.