West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[Mike Oxsaw]

We all know what's going to happen at Wolves, dont we?

Indeed we do.

[Westham67]

We all know what's going to happen at Wolves, dont we?

[Fauxstralian]

I see Josh Cullen has suffered an ACL injury so is done for the season
As are Burnley as a result you’d think
Of course we need to catch a team or two above Wolves & Burnley anyway

[Sweep]

We cannot defend effectively and this has been the case since the last two seasons of Moyes’ stewardship through to Nuno.

Beats me why none of our last four managers have been able to address the defending issue.

Coincides with the 5 sub rule. 

Perhaps we have never adapted?

We have especially signed midfield players who are slow as a barge but relied on stamina to see them through over 90. Game's changed. 

Then we have VAR making some older defensive techniques less successful.

[El Scorchio]

Alvarez can fucking do one. His stomach for a fight went out of his quivering arsehole when he threw a wobbler and downed tools and stamped his feet and demanded to leave. He’s no different to Fullkrug or Aguerd. I don’t want me first crybaby cunts with no appetite for a fight at the club. Players who are good but with attitudes like that make me sick and are a big reason we are in the shit we are. 

Actually I’ll add Kudus to that as well. 

[Mex Martillo]

IF we stay up and get Alverez back. Having the captain of Mexico around our younger players would not do them any harm. We had the oldest squad in the Premier League when he was last with us 

Yes, we are crying out for leaders to stand up and get us out of this. The older first team players, Bowen, Paqueta, Kilman, Walker Peters are just not captains, no leadership.

[El Scorchio]

We cannot defend effectively and this has been the case since the last two seasons of Moyes’ stewardship through to Nuno.

Beats me why none of our last four managers have been able to address the defending issue.

Buying shit defenders doesn’t help. We haven’t bought a proper, good centre back for a long time. A few decent ones but not really good ones. 

Todibo is threatening to come good but he’s paired with a Fuckjng clown in Mav or Kilman every game. 

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We cannot defend effectively and this has been the case since the last two seasons of Moyes’ stewardship through to Nuno.

Beats me why none of our last four managers have been able to address the defending issue.

[Sir Alf]

Realistically unless we experience a “miracle” with Sullivan spending big and early on quality loans and fees that get accepted and none of this haggling, derisory bids, offering 5 year payback terms, insisting on low agent fees or using his agents, we are screwed.

So come on lets face it we are screwed. I suppose the only other miracle would be 30 year old Traore having his best 6 months ever in football because thats the only bloke I can see us getting anytime soon

[Westham67]

IF we stay up and get Alverez back. Having the captain of Mexico around our younger players would not do them any harm. We had the oldest squad in the Premier League when he was last with us 

[Tomshardware]

We are toast.

[Mex Martillo]

Well, we got a point and Forest got nothing. Gap down from 5 to 4 points. Also increased gap to Burnley by 1 point and maintained gap with Wolves. If we keep going like that we do not go down.On
Mind the gap.

[Sweep]

The last ten years or so shows that at least two of the bottom three at this stage go down every year.

Something like even money that all three will - roughly 50/50 chance one team will get out.

[cup of tea]

Latest relegation odds 

Wolves 1/500
Burnley 1/66
West Ham 2/7

After that....

Forest 9/2
Leeds 15/2
 

[Rossal]

"City still not been done,  Chelsea getting a slap on the wrist.  Those Fifa world cup bids which were all corrupt. "

FIFA corrupt? In other news the sun rises in the east.

Man City case is ongoing.   As is the Chelsea agents payment case.

What do these have to do with allegations that Sullivan is trousering transfer funds? Pure deflection tactics, as you know you've shown to be wrong.

 

 

you said

"

Do you think other clubs would be complict in back handers, dodgy dealings and bungs on transfers? They are so closely monitored, nobody wants to be found out and whacked

with points deductions and other sanctions" So i gave you examples where it happened. Theres also cases in Spain, Italy etc...... But Sullivan is whiter than white, as his private life and previous dealings confirm.

[cup of tea]

On the plus side, looking at the league 1 table, we'll likely be playing 3 of the following home and away next season 

Cardiff 
Lincoln
Bradford 
Stockport 
Huddersfield 
Bolton 
Stevenage 
Luton

Whats not to like? Stevenage at home in front of 20k and away at Lincoln with a 800 away capacity   

[Westside]

"City still not been done,  Chelsea getting a slap on the wrist.  Those Fifa world cup bids which were all corrupt. "

FIFA corrupt? In other news the sun rises in the east.

Man City case is ongoing.   As is the Chelsea agents payment case.

What do these have to do with allegations that Sullivan is trousering transfer funds? Pure deflection tactics, as you know you've shown to be wrong.

[Sir Alf]

Our chances are very low. We need players of beyter quality in all areas of the pitch and fast.  Paying the wedge and first week of Jan. sullivan doing that?  So on second thoughts, no fvcking chance we survive

[southbankbornnbred]

This squad, and currently this club (the way it is run etc), is just not good enough for the Premier League - let’s not kid ourselves.

After the “tough” set of fixtures, we probably needed 4 to 6 points out of Fulham and Brighton. We got 1 point.

We’re just very poor right now. We’re now halfway through the season and we’re on course for 28 points.

We might need the best January transfer window of all time to stay up. Realistically, what are our chances?

 

[goose]

Share the links then Rossal.
I’m assuming these reports accuse Sullivan of stealing money from the club?

as Westside said, latest set of accounts are due soon. They will tell a very depressing story, tempered slightly by the sale of the ladies team (well half of it anyway).

Go find them yourself, they took me 30 seconds to type in google and find.   

They show tonnes of analysis and opinions. It's not great reading on the whole though. 

Sulllivan has shown in his personal life what a sleaze and wrongen he can be,  why do you think he would conduct his business dealings 100% clean? It's very naive IMO. 


Finally, can anyone answer what happened with the Boleyn sale yet?

So opinions and analysis about Sullivan stealing money? I very much doubt that.

He might well be a sleaze and an awful person, but that doesn’t mean he’s stolen money from player transfers. He hasn’t and there’s zero proof of that ever happening. Accounting policy, electronic transactions and the intense scrutiny means it’s impossible.

[Rossal]

Do you think other clubs would be complict in back handers, dodgy dealings and bungs on transfers? They are so closely monitored, nobody wants to be found out and whacked

with points deductions and other sanctions. We are long past vintage Redkanpp bungs scenario.. Don't forget when we sold Mascherano to the bin dippers, they grassed us up, as they thought there was something wrong

with his 3rd party ownership status in his contract with us, which led to all the legal cases against us.

Course there's loads of shit going on, how many times do agents mainuplate transfers.   Chelsea selling everyone to Strasborg then back again,   the amount of shit we only buy because its one of his agent mates. 

City still not been done,  Chelsea getting a slap on the wrist.  Those Fifa world cup bids which were all corrupt. 

[Rossal]

Share the links then Rossal.
I’m assuming these reports accuse Sullivan of stealing money from the club?

as Westside said, latest set of accounts are due soon. They will tell a very depressing story, tempered slightly by the sale of the ladies team (well half of it anyway).

Go find them yourself, they took me 30 seconds to type in google and find.   

They show tonnes of analysis and opinions. It's not great reading on the whole though. 

Sulllivan has shown in his personal life what a sleaze and wrongen he can be,  why do you think he would conduct his business dealings 100% clean? It's very naive IMO. 


Finally, can anyone answer what happened with the Boleyn sale yet?

[Massive Attack]

I was at the Palace match when we got back to 2-2, and the floodlights went out. That was a gambling thing, and I reckon some of these VAR decisions are the same. Look at the League Cup draw for the quarter finals: Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal and Newcastle all played lesser teams. Plenty of corruption in the Premier League. 

Just ask Paqueta*.





*Allegedly!

[goose]

You don’t think the FA or the special HMRC department set up to deal with football clubs has thought of looking at that?

All agents and intermediaries fees are submitted to the FA and audited. The set up you described below would be rumbled in minutes.

[Westham67]

I was at the Palace match when we got back to 2-2, and the floodlights went out. That was a gambling thing, and I reckon some of these VAR decisions are the same. Look at the League Cup draw for the quarter finals: Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal and Newcastle all played lesser teams. Plenty of corruption in the Premier League.