Swiss ski resort fire

[Fauxstralian]

Inside a building, people wandering around with ‘champagne sparklers’ ie naked flames sticking out of champagne bottles
Some sitting on people’s shoulders set fire to the ceiling
Utter stupidity
The people involved should be identified & presuming they aren’t a charred mess be charged with mass murder

[Massive Attack]

Video is said to exist showing Jessica Moretti escaping from the New Year fire with the cash register under her arm, while ignoring victims.


Savage! As long as the fucking Tills alright, that's the main thing..

[XKhammer]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Oh what a surprise 

[XKhammer]

The fact they stood their filming the ceiling on fire baffles me, I’d have run like fuck.

That would require mummy and daddy to inform them .

I used to ski(MCL injury stopped that) including Switzerland and found the nightlife bit sedate there,but appears on this occasion the fact it was NY Eve and basement bar full of pissed up kids who clearly didn't recognise the danger instead decided to film or carry in dancing 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

The fact they stood their filming the ceiling on fire baffles me, I’d have run like fuck.

That would require mummy and daddy to inform them .

[Massive Attack]

The fact they stood their filming the ceiling on fire baffles me, I’d have run like fuck.

The modern shitty way sadly. Darwinism at play too.

[twoleftfeet]

The fact they stood their filming the ceiling on fire baffles me, I’d have run like fuck.

[Westham67]

The owners are being charged with murder by negligence

[XKhammer]

Seems the bar was full of kids as young as 14 including missing 15 year old from UK 
The frogs that owed that bar need to get a life sentence 

Kids are allowed in bars in most civilised countries. No proof that the staff were doing something as illegal as serving any under-aged customers with alcohol, if that is what you are suggesting.

Not suggesting but clearly obvious...you think its ok for kids to be pissed up at 1.30am when the fire started???
No proof???This coming from someone who posted clearly false information about the sickening Southport murderer 
What is it with you and kids dying you have to stear away from facts???

[Mad Dog]

I cant believe the stupidity of those filming the fire, why must this generation film every fucking thing, if they'd  have moved quicker they possibly may have got out easier.

But yes I agree im quite astounded with the foreign versions of "health and safety" when I go abroad.  We can be over zealous here, but they dont give it a passing thought in a lot of the world

[Mike Oxsaw]

Seems the bar was full of kids as young as 14 including missing 15 year old from UK 
The frogs that owed that bar need to get a life sentence 

Kids are allowed in bars in most civilised countries. No proof that the staff were doing something as illegal as serving any under-aged customers with alcohol, if that is what you are suggesting.

[wils]

What personal risks does Health and Safety prevent you from taking that you would otherwise take?

Jumping on and off an open platform on a moving London bus. That sort of thing.

Those RM buses have long since gone 

That’s precisely  my point. 

[XKhammer]

Seems the bar was full of kids as young as 14 including missing 15 year old from UK 
The frogs that owed that bar need to get a life sentence 

[Far Cough UKunt]

What personal risks does Health and Safety prevent you from taking that you would otherwise take?

Jumping on and off an open platform on a moving London bus. That sort of thing.

Those RM buses have long since gone 

They are a few still there as tourist buses

[XKhammer]

What personal risks does Health and Safety prevent you from taking that you would otherwise take?

Jumping on and off an open platform on a moving London bus. That sort of thing.

Those RM buses have long since gone 

[Westside]

Holding a naked flame against flammable building materials in the ceiling indoors is irresponsible dangerous behaviour that almost certainly causes death 

You're throwing your odd outrage in the wrong direction, that narrow staircase as the only exit was the real crime 

Whilst not a crime, idiots filming the fire on their mobiles and not getting out of a death trap as soon as possible, is crass stupidity. As dumb as people collecting their hand luggage before an emergency evacuation of an airliner.

[Westham67]

I was in that part of the world just before Christmas. I am no fan of our health and safety culture stifling personal risk taking, but at the same time I did notice in several places around Switzerland and southern Germany that they do things that we wouldn't allow here.

So when you see things like this and you realise they are less likely to happen in England, it does make you see the 'elf and safety culture in a different light. A lot of families have lost their kids in this for no reason other than people thinking the rules aren't for them. Mostly teenagers killed.

There is nothing wrong with UK health and safety laws if they are applied in a pragmatic manner. In many cases, they are used simply for arse covering.

[Westham67]

The owners are French and are being questioned by the police. It takes a disaster for things to change, safety-wise, the King's Cross fire and Hillsborough being examples

I read a report that said the owners were in the bar when it happened, so they won't be able to deny knowledge of staff using indoor fireworks and alleged serving of drinks to underage kids.

Yes, they were and managed to escape unscathed. I was speaking with a MATE who goes skiing in Italy, and he said the bars are packed solid. 

[One Sunny Day]

Holding a naked flame against flammable building materials in the ceiling indoors is irresponsible dangerous behaviour that almost certainly causes death 

I'd say stuffing the ceiling with flamable insulation while only providing one set of stairs out of there was a much bigger issue.

[Nurse Ratched]

The owners are French and are being questioned by the police. It takes a disaster for things to change, safety-wise, the King's Cross fire and Hillsborough being examples

I read a report that said the owners were in the bar when it happened, so they won't be able to deny knowledge of staff using indoor fireworks and alleged serving of drinks to underage kids.

[Westham67]

The owners are French and are being questioned by the police. It takes a disaster for things to change, safety-wise, the King's Cross fire and Hillsborough being examples

[only1billybonds]

Zeb.

As referenced by Deep Purple in 'Smoke on the Water'.

[Hammer I am]

Holding a naked flame against flammable building materials in the ceiling indoors is irresponsible dangerous behaviour that almost certainly causes death 

You're throwing your odd outrage in the wrong direction, that narrow staircase as the only exit was the real crime 

[zebthecat]

I imagine that they assumed the club would not have flammable insulation all over the ceiling.
This is remeniscent of a lot of club fire disasters including the burning down of Montreux Casino during a Mothers of Invention gig in the 70s.

[Fauxstralian]

Holding a naked flame against flammable building materials in the ceiling indoors is irresponsible dangerous behaviour that almost certainly causes death 

[Fauxstralian]

Frase
You seem very sensitive about your ground down teeth 
And your middle aged (I’m being generous) love of repetitive music only bearable if you are out of your scone