Nuno Out

[northbankfrank]

2,500 posts by the end of the season?

[Eerie Decent]

The owner is obviously the overall main problem, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be rolling the dice now and hoping for the best. We're 100% down with Nuno, tonight's result is irrelevant. 

How is Leicester vs West Brom relevant,maybe next season as we will be playing both in championship then 

I meant tomorrow obviously, now off you go to the politics thread to spend the night going back and forth with your 3 mates all calling each other nonce.

[stubbo-admin]

I don't see him being sacked regardless the Forest outcome (unless it's a massive tonking).

We've just signed two players he wants, and are apparently in the market for more (CB, Winger).

It seems much more likely that they'll back him to to the end, and not to twist again.  Seems they're also going all in on Mendes as the chief architect for getting players into the Club (which frankly given Sullivan's and Brady's personal failings is actually probably preferable).

We are a bit different to Wolves in this...Mendes had a stake in Wolves I believe at the time they were flooding Wolves with players for flipping...it became part of their owners model for running of the Club.

At West Ham, they have association purely through their client (Nuno) but I suspect now that Mendes is 'in' with a complient owner in Sullivan, he'll only be too happy to keep buying/selling on our behalf regardless of how long Nuno remains in post.

[Dick Shaftsbury]

I think Nuno set out deliberately to lose against Wolves.

You really are a total moron, aren't you. 

[Come On You Irons]

He's already up there for me and I have no doubt that is what he is doing.

He is also using the club to recruit players he wants via his preferred agent. When he was at Wolves he flooded the Wolves team with mainly Portuguese and some Spanish players and it looks like he is seeking to do the same at West Ham.

Even if we do miraculously survive this season under this clown, he will get another transfer window in the summer to flood the team with more Portuguese and Spanish/ Spanish speaking players and the English element of the team will be eroded further.

I would hate to see West Ham become one of those clubs with one English player or even none in the starting line up. That might actually be the prompt for me to give up on attending games and renewing my season ticket.

[BoleynGone]

I think Nuno set out deliberately to lose against Wolves. Was quite happy to be 3-0 down at half time.
The 2nd half confirmed this when bringong on Soucek and Myers,keep the score at 3-0 nothing else,5-0 defeat would mean the sack. Save Pablo and Paqueta for Forest and anyone else he may want. Nuno has thought that he'll get his players and probably another coach in.Gambling on getting enough points to leap over Forest. He's gone all out to bank on the window. He must think he's good enough coach to see this through.
Forest have imlpoded and set this up for him to be proved right. He is planning on a 3-0 victory,Paqueta,Taty and Pablo.
Nuno is a genius.

[Mad Dog]

If he is being belligerent and trying to get himself sacked and it costs us relegation he might shoot to number 1 in my most hated people in football

Frankly its the only thing j can think of for his match tactics and selections, and if what we're hearing about how he's conducting is true, that could well be the same

[wils]

If we do sack Nuno after a defeat to Forest tomorrow, hypothetically speaking, I would imagine that it would be the first time a manager is sacked from two clubs in the same season after losing to the other club.

Quite a claim to fame that would be for no hope Nuno!

 

 

I think I read it will be the first same season double sacking of a Prem manager. But yes that added detail adds to it.

As other said, he's obviously going to be reluctant to sack him after letting him spend tens of millions on two players of his choosing. But to be honest, after reading that Stenberg piece about his poor communication it doesn't sound a very hopeful situation. And looking at his signings and his squad choices it looks like he has a preference for South American players which may be driven more by their cultural proximity to him than their suitability.

[XKhammer]

The owner is obviously the overall main problem, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be rolling the dice now and hoping for the best. We're 100% down with Nuno, tonight's result is irrelevant. 

How is Leicester vs West Brom relevant,maybe next season as we will be playing both in championship then 

[Far Cough UKunt]

Forest owe us a right royal rogering.

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[oioi]

Buy two strikers that Nuno wanted and then sack him? Not happening. 

[Rossal]

He cant sack him after spending £50m this week. That's the bonkers thing, we could lose 3-0 again tomorrow and he will have to give him the Spurs game 

'The board acknowledge recent results have been bad, but feel like Nuno needs time to work with the new strikers.  They are also looking at a new centre back before the deadline' 

[Come On You Irons]

If we do sack Nuno after a defeat to Forest tomorrow, hypothetically speaking, I would imagine that it would be the first time a manager is sacked from two clubs in the same season after losing to the other club.

Quite a claim to fame that would be for no hope Nuno!

[Eerie Decent]

The owner is obviously the overall main problem, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be rolling the dice now and hoping for the best. We're 100% down with Nuno, tonight's result is irrelevant. 

[eusebiovic]

I'm convinced Sullivan's got Alzheimers or something. He's gone more barmy than normal. I also wonder whether Kretinsky doesn't mind relegation so votes for him to stay so he can hopefully buy the Club on the cheap.

The decision making at this Club has been off the scale bonkers and it continues with dropping close to £50M on Nuno signings within days of getting spanked by the worst Premier League side going ever. That's also off the back of Steinbergs piece revealing staff and players have no faith in the manager. Proper fucking madness going on.

 

 

It's full on Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now stuff...the soulless bowl is like a dystopian enclave in the middle of the Vietnam jungle.

The Horror, The Horror!

Unfortunately in our case, I can't see a Captain Willard making his way up the river to come and take the fucker out

[Massive Attack]

So it could well be a shit or bust game with the Board bluffing saying no intention to ditch the div for now in the hope he'll rip Forest a new one.

[Massive Attack]

I'm convinced Sullivan's got Alzheimers or something. He's gone more barmy than normal. I also wonder whether Kretinsky doesn't mind relegation so votes for him to stay so he can hopefully buy the Club on the cheap.

The decision making at this Club has been off the scale bonkers and it continues with dropping close to £50M on Nuno signings within days of getting spanked by the worst Premier League side going ever. That's also off the back of Steinbergs piece revealing staff and players have no faith in the manager. Proper fucking madness going on.

[Come On You Irons]

So lose to Forest and Nuno STILL stays?

When is the cut off point?

A spanking away at Tottenham? A home defeat to newly promoted Sunderland? A spanking at Chelsea? A roll over at Burnley?

Ineptitude of the highest order to allow this clown to stay on and relegate us.

[Massive Attack]

2h ago 10:51

West Ham have no intention to sack NunoLatest from Sky Sports News' Chris Reidy:

West Ham currently have no intention to sack Nuno Espirito Santo, Sky Sports News understands, with January transfer plans centred around the Portuguese’s targets.

There have been reports that Tuesday's Premier League home game against fellow relegation strugglers Nottingham Forest, live on Sky Sports, could be pivotal for Nuno’s future after a significant defeat at bottom side Wolves.

But Sky Sports News understands that recruitment plans will continue for the players Nuno has identified who can help take them away from danger.


We (The Board) deserve all we get. 

[El Scorchio]

Doesn't matter who it is unless Sullivan provides them with at least one if not two Premier league quality centre backs. Kilman and Mav are dragging any manager down to the Championship, where they'll still be below average players. If we are to stay up, those two need to stay off the pitch to stem the flow of goals. We don't even have the option of doing what most managers would do coming in to the club in this situation which is to stop the goals going in and seek 1-0 wins, because we're going to have to score 3 every game. Sadly we are just as weak up front at the moment, with only one reliable prem quality forward in Bowen. Wilson is half a player despite how hard he tries (A for effort from him) and Summerville is just lacking the quality or the confidence or a bit of both.

Any manager needs three more players minimum, that's on the assumption Pablo can even make any difference to our attack which we have no idea about at the moment.

This squad needs major surgery in the summer, regardless of who is in the dugout and what division we are in. I think this centre back pairing would be a fucking liability in the Championship as well and likely cost us promotion. I hope to god Kilman has a relegation clause in his contract but fuck knows who would be mad enough to buy him anyway. If Palace were in for him they surely are not now.

[Come On You Irons]

Well exactly. Arguably Nuno's job will arguably be untenable if we fail to beat Forest tomorrow and especially if we lose to them. Yet meanwhile Sullivan has just let him spend £50 on two of his/ his agent's forward picks and given him the ultimatum of one game to save his job via the media.

It's a ludicrous and dysfunctional situation which sums up West Ham United under the stewardship of a terrible, incompetent football club Chairman and main shareholder.

[Swiss.]

Maybe we get Amorim 9in.He was our very first choice this season wasn't he. However I doubt he will be considered now. 

Maresca anyone? 

[nychammer]

Looks like he's on way out.  The old "one game to save your job"

So why are we letting him spend £50m on players the new manager inevitably wont want.  Fuck I hate west ham (specifically sullivan)

The very dysfunction that’s seen us in this position 

[twoleftfeet]

I have never understood the obsession with this tippy tappy shit that modern football has become.

When I was playing I just wanted the ball lumped forward to the wings so that I could run at the full back but now it takes so long to get the ball to the final third that by the time it reaches you they have multiple players behind the ball.

Hoof it, cut out the midfield and let Bowen & Summerville have the opportunity to take on one player and get the striker in the box.

Simple really.

[Eerie Decent]

Meresca wouldn't work, this is no time for 'progressive' appointments, he's cut from a similar cloth as Loppy & Potter, possession for possession sakes, we do not have the team or structure for that. We don't have the time for someone like him to bed in his ideas. Nor do we have it for this defensive slop we're being served up at the minute.

We need a maverick, balls out, roll the dice kind of manager to try to get us out of this mess. Di Canio, Ange, along those lines. Instant impact, shit or bust. And if it doesn't work, then get one of the new fancy dan managers to build from there next season.

 

[Mad Dog]

Looks like he's on way out.  The old "one game to save your job"

So why are we letting him spend £50m on players the new manager inevitably wont want.  Fuck I hate west ham (specifically sullivan)