West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[El Scorchio]

We have scored one more goal than Sunderlad; they have a GD of zero. Two of their players are just back from the AFCON finals. The biggest singing this window is 3.5 M from the Red Sea pedestrians' biggest club, We have TATTY Pablo (Who looks a tad lost) and the Venezuelan wonder WiNGer

They also have conceded 20 less goals than us, lost 8 games less, won 4 more and have 16 points more, I think it's pretty much proven that spunking loads of money on players is absolutely no guarantee of quality or success. JWP, Kilman etc. A smart buy is better than an expensive one, and they have made a few of those in the last six months. It should be total embarrassment for everyone at our club that we got spanked 3-0 on opening day and are that far behind a club who just a few years ago were a joke and a national pity party off the back of their Netflix series. 

All that said, their form isn't great at this moment, and this isn't a bad time to play them. We've no right to expect a win especially with such an inadequate squad but there is hope and it's eminently possible if we show up strong and approach the game in the correct way. We have to use that win last weekend as a launch pad.

[Westham67]

We have scored one more goal than Sunderlad; they have a GD of zero. Two of their players are just back from the AFCON finals. The biggest singing this window is 3.5 M from the Red Sea pedestrians' biggest club, We have TATTY Pablo (Who looks a tad lost) and the Venezuelan wonder WiNGer

[eusebiovic]

Agree that our home is our biggest issue. Points total is better away!  

But relegation is still more likely than not. We are a failing business and thats almost always down to a leadership problem. 100s of business books and seminars point to business / corporate leadership as the key to success or failure and cite many examples of . Fairly obvious when you think about it. We’ve all worked for companies that have gone south or been part if a company that grows, becomes successful or both ( I kniw I have).  Always came down to a great leader, owner, CEO. The successful ones were assured, often humble, listened but had a clear vision of what they wanted and inplemented a culture and values to support their vision / plan.

We have a weak man mentally, who’s everyday is dpent trying to validate himself or get validation for his actions or non action. He has no plan, vision, he cannot listen to others and believes he knows best. Things go wrong, his full energy is focused on deflection of blame. His greatest achievement is his implementation of a blame culture that has deflected from his lack of leadership and incompetence for 16 years at West Ham and 10 years at Brum. 

He spent 16 years at Brum. Hopefully this threshold will trigger another swift exit...

[Mad Ferret]

Fair enough mate.

But you might as well flush your money down the khazi.

[Eerie Decent]

Not sure about that pal. Both Burnley and Wolves have shown some resilience of late, and Palace are a club in turmoil.

Get yourself on Betfair son, Palace are 25/1 to go down

Had a score on them going when Glasner announced he was leaving.

I've done a bullseye on Spurs to go down.

[Tomshardware]

In 3 games time, Palace have got Burnley then Wolves at home consecutively, 2 games that will get them back on track if they haven't already.


 

Not sure about that pal. Both Burnley and Wolves have shown some resilience of late, and Palace are a club in turmoil.

Get yourself on Betfair son, Palace are 25/1 to go down

That's worth a punt.  

[Mad Ferret]

In 3 games time, Palace have got Burnley then Wolves at home consecutively, 2 games that will get them back on track if they haven't already.


 

Not sure about that pal. Both Burnley and Wolves have shown some resilience of late, and Palace are a club in turmoil.

Get yourself on Betfair son, Palace are 25/1 to go down

Had a score on them going when Glasner announced he was leaving.

[Eerie Decent]

In 3 games time, Palace have got Burnley then Wolves at home consecutively, 2 games that will get them back on track if they haven't already.

 

Not sure about that pal. Both Burnley and Wolves have shown some resilience of late, and Palace are a club in turmoil.

Get yourself on Betfair son, Palace are 25/1 to go down

[Mad Ferret]

In 3 games time, Palace have got Burnley then Wolves at home consecutively, 2 games that will get them back on track if they haven't already.
 

Not sure about that pal. Both Burnley and Wolves have shown some resilience of late, and Palace are a club in turmoil.

[Keep dreaming]

I shall be at the OS for the fisrt time with a MATE to watch the Sunderland match

Condolences...

[Westham67]

I shall be at the OS for the fisrt time with a MATE to watch the Sunderland match

[Sir Alf]

Agree that our home is our biggest issue. Points total is better away!  

But relegation is still more likely than not. We are a failing business and thats almost always down to a leadership problem. 100s of business books and seminars point to business / corporate leadership as the key to success or failure and cite many examples of . Fairly obvious when you think about it. We’ve all worked for companies that have gone south or been part if a company that grows, becomes successful or both ( I kniw I have).  Always came down to a great leader, owner, CEO. The successful ones were assured, often humble, listened but had a clear vision of what they wanted and inplemented a culture and values to support their vision / plan.

We have a weak man mentally, who’s everyday is dpent trying to validate himself or get validation for his actions or non action. He has no plan, vision, he cannot listen to others and believes he knows best. Things go wrong, his full energy is focused on deflection of blame. His greatest achievement is his implementation of a blame culture that has deflected from his lack of leadership and incompetence for 16 years at West Ham and 10 years at Brum. 

[Eerie Decent]

In 3 games time, Palace have got Burnley then Wolves at home consecutively, 2 games that will get them back on track if they haven't already.

The one thing going against them and Forest is both are still in Europe. Problem for us is our home form, we are so passive, just can't see us making up 10 points on Palace when we can't win at home. Forest are our only hope.

[Council Scum]

Matata now wants out at Palace. The atmosphere must be rotten there right now. Squad dismantled, lame duck manager. I doubt we'd be able to make up 11 points on them from now until the end of the season but they could go into absolute freefall and only pick up a couple more points from here,

They do still have Burnley and Wolves to come at home though. Mind you neither of them could be gimmes.

I said on another thread, I expect them to go into complete freefall now.

So they'll probably win the league. 

[Eerie Decent]

I say Mateta
You say Matata

Mateta
Matata
Mateta
Matata
 

[El Scorchio]

Matata now wants out at Palace. The atmosphere must be rotten there right now. Squad dismantled, lame duck manager. I doubt we'd be able to make up 11 points on them from now until the end of the season but they could go into absolute freefall and only pick up a couple more points from here,

They do still have Burnley and Wolves to come at home though. Mind you neither of them could be gimmes.

[Mad Ferret]

What a fucking goal!

[Mad Ferret]

Could do with a Brighton goal here.

[Westham67]

Palace form 2 points in 6 games, they just lost their best player and still have European games to play

[nychammer]

AI is fucking mental these days.

Why not just ask AI to create alternative versions of MOTD highlights where we win every week and VAR inflicts harsh injustices on the opposition and we are a lauded and celebrated by the media. We could live in our own WHO  virtual premier league and be happy. 

[Massive Attack]

But he had a Striker on the bench he only used until the 91st minute of injury time to wind the clock down. Can't complain he doesn't have any options. 

[Rossal]

When you think about it, even when he had 2 new Strikers and 2 wide Forwards in Summerville and Bowen he still went defensive 2nd half.

It doesn't matter how many Strikers or attacking players he has available to him, he'll still feel the urge to mostly defend.

The reason why is teams put on fresh ideas up front and we can't do that. The only way for us to react is to defend deeper. Having fresh legs and fresh ideas in the last 30 mins of games is vital. Without adding some depth up top in the next week or so we are down simple as. 

[honky cat]

When you think about it, even when he had 2 new Strikers and 2 wide Forwards in Summerville and Bowen he still went defensive 2nd half.

It doesn't matter how many Strikers or attacking players he has available to him, he'll still feel the urge to mostly defend.
 

Thats ok. If he has these defensive urges he needs to go out and find a couple of big bastard defenders, dunk and dawson types.

[Massive Attack]

When you think about it, even when he had 2 new Strikers and 2 wide Forwards in Summerville and Bowen he still went defensive 2nd half.

It doesn't matter how many Strikers or attacking players he has available to him, he'll still feel the urge to mostly defend.

[Rossal]

Leeds next six matches could see them falter. We played much better yesterday as we have an outlet up front. I hope we keep Wilson 

 

We played better yesterday in the first half and we should have been more comfortable. Second half we were back to hanging on and defending deep. We got a bit lucky to be honest. We tired and the subs were late. Wilson's introduction wad timely and impactful but it should have been made 30 minutes earlier. 

We need to capitalize on those periods where we dominate. Hopefully Taty and Pablo will offer us more threat and an outlet up front. The signs are a least good in that respect. 

I sometimes think people don’t actually watch the games, when we were hanging on? Why did we get lucky? We should have been 3 up. 

But we wasnt and until the last 90 seconds of the 2nd half we didnt look like winning that game. 

Nuno seems to think from 60 mins onwards us camping in our own half will get us 3 points every week. 

We desperately need some attacking reinforcements as we arent going to get 90th min winners every week. 

As i said last week the fact we are now weaker in the attacking areas than the 1st Jan is farcical