The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[goose]

Deleting that nonsense is the best idea you’ve ever had.

[Nutsin]

Have you got an Audiobook version? 

Must admit I didn’t realize it was that long.

Mods might want to delete.

[Massive Attack]

Have you got an Audiobook version? 

[Nutsin]

Here you go Goose you simpleton, here is a bit more info for you try and absorb. Although I doubt any of it will sink in.

wether wrong or right I agree with the part about the US investing in a Defense system while the EU thinks their laws apply or even International law. Trump wants it under US law, there is the rub in my opinion. No crazy globalist, liberal fuckwits will control the Golden Dome.

hope that helps!



The World Is Re-Arming. America Is Repositioning.
And Too Many People Still Think This Is About Politics.

If you think this is about Greenland, you’re already behind.

“Greenland doesn’t belong to us.”

That sounds reasonable.
It sounds polite.

And it completely ignores how power actually works.

You can skim a few shallow takes that repeat the same safe talking points.

Or you can spend a few minutes here and understand what’s really happening.

That choice is yours.

This is not written for the easily offended.

If your first instinct is emotional outrage, pause and ask yourself one honest question:

When has comfort ever stopped a rising threat?

Right now, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin are watching the West closely. Not angrily, curiously. 

Likely wondering how the United States ever became a superpower… and how it managed to stay one for so long.

We’ll come back to them.

First, Greenland and the free world.

What Donald Trump did was say out loud what global leaders have whispered for decades:

The United States has been carrying the free world, and the free world got comfortable with it.

NATO Isn’t What It Used to Be and Everyone Knows It

NATO was built when Europe remembered what real war costs. Leaders understood how global conflicts begin, not just how they end.

That seriousness is gone.

Many NATO nations have:
 • Slashed their own military spending
 • Opened borders without control
 • Adopted internal policies that weakened national cohesion
 • Outsourced their security to the United States

Then they turn to America and say, “You’ve got us, right?”

That isn’t partnership.
That’s dependency.

What an Ally Actually Is

Let’s be honest.

An ally isn’t someone who smiles while you fund them then attacks you the moment you assert your own interests.

An ally:
 • Shares your values
 • Defends itself
 • Stands with you when it’s uncomfortable, not just convenient

Many so-called allies no longer meet that standard. 

They weakened themselves, relied on American protection, and criticized the very country ensuring their survival.

That isn’t alliance.
That’s reliance.

Here’s another uncomfortable truth:

Allies are not unconditional friends. Nations don’t survive on emotion or moral signaling. They survive on reciprocity, strength, and shared interests.

That’s why Trump was attacked.

When the U.S. demanded NATO countries pay their share and take responsibility, the response wasn’t cooperation, it was outrage.

That reaction revealed everything.

Real allies don’t complain when asked to carry their own weight.

Canada: The Perfect Example

Ask yourself this honestly:

If the United States stopped defending Canada tomorrow, how long would Canada last?

Russia wouldn’t hesitate. It would abandon the hard fight in Ukraine for a far easier, richer target.

Canada.

A week?
A day?

Likely surrender within 24 hours.

And yet Canada feels free to openly criticize the U.S.

Why?

Because they know a hostile power on America’s northern border is unacceptable. Their freedom to criticize us exists because we protect them.

Think about that.

Liberalism on the World Stage Is Dangerous

This needs to be said plainly.

Liberalism is dangerous globally because it is emotional, unserious, and unprepared for a world that punishes weakness.

Across parts of Europe, the UK, and Australia:
 • Speech is fined or criminalized
 • Governments decide acceptable opinions
 • Dissent is treated as a threat

That is not freedom.

And it is not the behavior of an ally.

Now ask yourself:

Do China or Russia allow open borders?
Do they tolerate dissent when power is threatened?

No.

China is imprisoning millions of Uyghurs.
Russia has slaughtered over a million Ukrainians.

China has nearly doubled military spending, built the world’s largest navy, developed hypersonic missiles, and purchased land globally for strategic positioning.

Those weapons aren’t symbolic.
They already have targets.

Meanwhile, Western leaders pretend the world is safe while hiding behind American strength.

The Choice Is Simple

The world will follow one of two systems:
 • The United States
 • China and Russia

There is no third option waiting in the wings.

Europe can’t defend itself without us.
Canada can’t.
Australia can’t.

If America falls, freedom doesn’t relocate.
It collapses everywhere.

Greenland Is About Defending Freedom…Everywhere

This isn’t about flags or profit.

Greenland is one of the most strategically critical defense positions on Earth. It’s a gateway to North America.

Modern missile technology moves faster than legacy defense systems were built to stop. 

Greenland is essential for early detection and interception before threats reach American cities.

Military planners know this.
NATO knows this.
Denmark knows this.

But the U.S. cannot build permanent, trillion-dollar defense infrastructure, including next-generation missile defense on land governed by foreign law. 

Treaties aren’t secure enough for systems of that scale.

So ask yourself:

If NATO truly stands with America, why oppose America protecting itself?

Sending military forces to Greenland before negotiations even begin isn’t partnership.

It’s fear.

NATO’s Real Fear

Here’s what they won’t say out loud:

They fear that once America fully secures North America, we won’t need them.

And they’re not wrong.

Under current leadership and policies, NATO has become more burden than benefit.

America has already increased military spending from roughly 3% toward 5% of GDP. That alone tells you how serious the threat picture really is.

At some point, it makes sense to stop writing blank checks to governments that refuse to defend themselves.

That doesn’t mean abandoning allies.
It means redefining responsibility.

What Trump Is Actually Doing

This isn’t aggression.

It’s preparation.

You secure your home first or you lose everything.

Greenland isn’t about control.
It’s about survival in a hostile world.

This isn’t comforting.
It isn’t polite.

And it won’t make everyone feel good.

But those who’ve lived long enough understand the lesson:

Weakness masquerading as virtue leads to collapse.

Reality doesn’t care about feelings.

It only responds to strength.

[Nutsin]

[goose]

It’s a huge embarrassment for the man who was very clear that nothing other than total ownership of Greenland would do.

The opportunity for more military presence in Greenland was always there before his ridiculous claims.

[Cabbige Savage]

Get that he said multiple times that he must own Greenland and have full control? That’s not happening.

At any time the US could have put more military on Greenland, that’s not changed. 

So you’re painting the thing he could have had anyway with the embarrassing climb down as a ‘win’?

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

Right, so you don’t know the details of the deal but you post it as a ‘win’.

anything other than control or ownership of Greenland is an embarrassment climb down. For once the EU stood up to trump and he had to back down.

 

 

yessss
Trump no not to try & push makron, stammer and sanchez abowt.
We have EU Super Army + many sub Saharan and sand people who will fight for us all so.  

Good Times

[Nutsin]

Jo

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

Right, so you don’t know the details of the deal but you post it as a ‘win’.

anything other than control or ownership of Greenland is an embarrassment climb down. For once the EU stood up to trump and he had to back down.

Yeah it’s a win the USA will get it’s Golden Dome and we will all be safer.

Whats not to like?

And all thanks to Trump!

[Nutsin]

Get that he said multiple times that he must own Greenland and have full control? That’s not happening.

At any time the US could have put more military on Greenland, that’s not changed. 

So you’re painting the thing he could have had anyway with the embarrassing climb down as a ‘win’?

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

Right, so you don’t know the details of the deal but you post it as a ‘win’.

anything other than control or ownership of Greenland is an embarrassment climb down. For once the EU stood up to trump and he had to back down.

Yeah it’s a win the USA will get it’s Golden Dome and we will all be safer.

Whats not to like?

[goose]

You still don’t get it ffs! It really beggars belief, nobody is that backward.

Get that he said multiple times that he must own Greenland and have full control? That’s not happening.

At any time the US could have put more military on Greenland, that’s not changed. 

So you’re painting the thing he could have had anyway with the embarrassing climb down as a ‘win’?

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

Right, so you don’t know the details of the deal but you post it as a ‘win’.

anything other than control or ownership of Greenland is an embarrassment climb down. For once the EU stood up to trump and he had to back down.

[Nutsin]

Nope, just pointing out the obvious.
Its another  

You still don’t get it ffs! It really beggars belief, nobody is that backward.

Get that he said multiple times that he must own Greenland and have full control? That’s not happening.

At any time the US could have put more military on Greenland, that’s not changed. 

So you’re painting the thing he could have had anyway with the embarrassing climb down as a ‘win’?

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

[goose]

You sound bitter goose. Go have a lay down, you’ll feel better for it.

Nope, just pointing out the obvious.
Its another  

You still don’t get it ffs! It really beggars belief, nobody is that backward.

Get that he said multiple times that he must own Greenland and have full control? That’s not happening.

At any time the US could have put more military on Greenland, that’s not changed. 

So you’re painting the thing he could have had anyway with the embarrassing climb down as a ‘win’?

[Nutsin]

The art of the deal being not getting the very thing you said would happen, being forced into another and further damaging relationships with your biggest trading partners.

slow hand clap  

You sound bitter goose. Go have a lay down, you’ll feel better for it.

Nope, just pointing out the obvious.
Its another  

You still don’t get it ffs! It really beggars belief, nobody is that backward.

[goose]

The art of the deal being not getting the very thing you said would happen, being forced into another and further damaging relationships with your biggest trading partners.

slow hand clap  

You sound bitter goose. Go have a lay down, you’ll feel better for it.

Nope, just pointing out the obvious.
Its another  

[Nutsin]

The art of the deal being not getting the very thing you said would happen, being forced into another and further damaging relationships with your biggest trading partners.

slow hand clap  

You sound bitter goose. Go have a lay down, you’ll feel better for it.

[goose]

The art of the deal being not getting the very thing you said would happen, being forced into another and further damaging relationships with your biggest trading partners.

slow hand clap  

[Nutsin]

Will someone tell Hammer I am it’s safe to come out of his bunker now. 

Hahahahaha!

What are you blathering on about you loon? 

It’s alright you can put your Binoculars away. It’s all clear You silly boy Pike!

[Hammer I am]

Will someone tell Hammer I am it’s safe to come out of his bunker now. 

Hahahahaha!

What are you blathering on about you loon? 

[Nutsin]

This one goes out to all the Gimps! 

[dealcanvey]

More Car crash TV from Trump

states that China doesn’t use wind energy despite being the worlds largest user of wind by a distance.

Does he just make it up as he goes along? Does Nutsin orchestrate his speeches? Is it both? I guess we will never know. 

[Nutsin]

Epstein update.

Oversight committee approves Clinton Contempt Resolution.

 Could they really end up in jail?

I doubt it but they should.

[BRANDED]

Why is parking your car like finding your first girl friend?

because you find a disabled one and just stick it in and hope no one finds out. 

[Nutsin]

Will someone tell Hammer I am it’s safe to come out of his bunker now. 

Hahahahaha!

[goose]

There’s only one poster getting hysterical here.

Don’t cry Nutsin son.

Looks like the art of the deal is gonna get Trump Greenland…… EU doesn’t get crippled with additional Tariffs and now has arctic protection from big bad Putin.
Just like I said will happen.

Poor old Hammer I am must be confused, he thought he was going to war with the USA LOL. 

Fucking hilarious!

You do realise that NATO doesn’t own Greenland? The USA won’t be acquiring or owning Greenland.

The ‘art of the deal’ was realising you’ve over stepped and so having to again. The danish prime has confirmed as much.

[Nutsin]

There’s only one poster getting hysterical here.

Don’t cry Nutsin son.

Looks like the art of the deal is gonna get Trump Greenland…… EU doesn’t get crippled with additional Tariffs and now has arctic protection from big bad Putin.
Just like I said will happen.

Poor old Hammer I am must be confused, he thought he was going to war with the USA LOL. 

Fucking hilarious!