Winter '25/26 Transfer Rumours Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Well seems like with all these international breaks, and us languishing, the rumours of ins and outs are rife.

Chuck anything 'worthy' of discussion on this thread...

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Incomings:

Pablo Felipe - €21m + €3m (Gil Vicente) | Forward
Valentin 'Taty' Castellanos - €26m + €4m (Lazio) | Forward
Adama Traore - £2m + £1m if stay up (Fulham) | Forward
Axel Disasi - Loan (Chelsea) | Centre Back
Keiber Lamadrid - £150k + £1m option | Attacking Mid

Outgoings:

Nicolas Füllkrug - 6 months loan (AC Milan)
Luis Guilherme - £17m + Sell On % (Sporting Lisbon)
George Earthy - 6 months loan (Bristol City)
Callum Marshall - 6 months loan (Bochum)
Andy Irving - 1.5m (Sparta Prague)
Guido Rodriguez - Undisclosed (Valencia)
Igor Julio - Loan Cancelled (Brighton)
James Ward Prowse - 6 months loan (Burnley)
Lucas Paqueta - £36.5m + Buy Back Clause (Flamengo)

[Mad Dog]

Its day 23 of transfer window and I see we havent got a defender yet

Its not vital or anything

[eusebiovic]

I see we are linked with this Bobby Thomas geezer at Coventry...

https://www.footballinsider247.com/bobb ... ham-swoop/

I don't know much about him but his teammate Jack Rudoni would be the perfect replacement for Paqueta.

If I'm not mistaken he is head and shoulders above most of the championship in the same way Bowen was when we signed him.

Hayden Hackney at Boro would be ideal as well but as a club we've never been run that way.

Probably the same reason Charlie Cresswell doesn't fancy us in the current predicament..

All 3 look potential mustard

Trouble is, as it was put on YT yesterday, why on earth would a player from Cov or Boro join us now when if they stay they are probably guaranteed premier league football for a season, and they might be back in the championship quick smart if they move. Add to the fact that we'll get told to get fucked by the owners who aren't going to jeopardise their own promotion pushes. 

Agree all three would be excellent signings. The kind we should have made and probably could have made in the summer before this car crash of a season started.

You can be sure that Palace for example will probably have an eye on all 3 of them. A couple ending up there wouldn't be a huge surprise

[Sir Alf]

Zulte Waregem and Nigeria international midfielder Tochukwu Nnadi

Another Sully special for the Championship campaign?

**** taps nose ***

 

[fraser]

Paqueta is a strange one. Why would any club break a brazilian record for a 28 year old, and depending on your opinion - one who has been bang average for over a year. Surely there's talented playmakers everywhere over there, for far less money.
​​​​​​I dont really scour the news but there seems to be zero interest here or in europe for him?

We'll probably cave just to get rid of him. But i can see him ending up in saudi.



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There were rumours of Chelsea, Spurs and Villa interest but apparently he just wants to go home.. He started his career there too. 

[honky cat]

Paqueta is a strange one. Why would any club break a brazilian record for a 28 year old, and depending on your opinion - one who has been bang average for over a year. Surely there's talented playmakers everywhere over there, for far less money.
​​​​​​I dont really scour the news but there seems to be zero interest here or in europe for him?

We'll probably cave just to get rid of him. But i can see him ending up in saudi.



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[El Scorchio]

I see we are linked with this Bobby Thomas geezer at Coventry...

https://www.footballinsider247.com/bobb ... ham-swoop/

I don't know much about him but his teammate Jack Rudoni would be the perfect replacement for Paqueta.

If I'm not mistaken he is head and shoulders above most of the championship in the same way Bowen was when we signed him.

Hayden Hackney at Boro would be ideal as well but as a club we've never been run that way.

Probably the same reason Charlie Cresswell doesn't fancy us in the current predicament..

All 3 look potential mustard

Trouble is, as it was put on YT yesterday, why on earth would a player from Cov or Boro join us now when if they stay they are probably guaranteed premier league football for a season, and they might be back in the championship quick smart if they move. Add to the fact that we'll get told to get fucked by the owners who aren't going to jeopardise their own promotion pushes. 

Agree all three would be excellent signings. The kind we should have made and probably could have made in the summer before this car crash of a season started.

[eusebiovic]

I see we are linked with this Bobby Thomas geezer at Coventry...

https://www.footballinsider247.com/bobb ... ham-swoop/

I don't know much about him but his teammate Jack Rudoni would be the perfect replacement for Paqueta.

If I'm not mistaken he is head and shoulders above most of the championship in the same way Bowen was when we signed him.

Hayden Hackney at Boro would be ideal as well but as a club we've never been run that way.

Probably the same reason Charlie Cresswell doesn't fancy us in the current predicament..

All 3 look potential mustard

[Manuel]

 

It's almost like someone sent them Sullivan's transfer manual. They're the richest clubbing Brazil, made about 70m from that World Club Cup sharade, and are just negotiating.

Give it time. My guess is we get about 35-38m in the end. 

Club needs to play hardball to stop others just fancying pastures new...."you can go, but we set the price".

 

It all seems a bit foggy but it sounds like we are hardballing. I stand corrected but it's unusual for Brazilian clubs to spend fairly large amounts for players? They are usually selling clubs.

They are rolling in cash after the club world cup also. 

As per Alan's post below it would be a record buy for Brazilian clubs, so still significant even if they did make some money recently.

[Rossal]

Flamengo don't really have any money, that's the problem reading between the lines, low balling and wanting to spread the payments right out.

 

It's almost like someone sent them Sullivan's transfer manual. They're the richest clubbing Brazil, made about 70m from that World Club Cup sharade, and are just negotiating.

Give it time. My guess is we get about 35-38m in the end. 

Club needs to play hardball to stop others just fancying pastures new...."you can go, but we set the price".

 

It all seems a bit foggy but it sounds like we are hardballing. I stand corrected but it's unusual for Brazilian clubs to spend fairly large amounts for players? They are usually selling clubs.

They are rolling in cash after the club world cup also. 

[eusebiovic]

Flamengo don't really have any money, that's the problem reading between the lines, low balling and wanting to spread the payments right out.

 

It's almost like someone sent them Sullivan's transfer manual. They're the richest clubbing Brazil, made about 70m from that World Club Cup sharade, and are just negotiating.

Give it time. My guess is we get about 35-38m in the end. 

Club needs to play hardball to stop others just fancying pastures new...."you can go, but we set the price".

 

It all seems a bit foggy but it sounds like we are hardballing. I stand corrected but it's unusual for Brazilian clubs to spend fairly large amounts for players? They are usually selling clubs.

 

 

I might be wrong Manny but I'm pretty sure Flamengo have been regularly funded by oil money as have their rivals Fluminense over the years

[Alan]

Sport Witness

West Ham United have finally received a formal offer for Lucas Paquetá.It took an extra day, but as anticipated in Brazil, Flamengo now formally submitted their proposal. According to Globo Esporte, the bid stands at £29.9m (€35m) guaranteed, plus £4.3m (€5m) in bonuses.If the full package is triggered, the deal would already rank as the most expensive signing ever made by a Brazilian club. Still it is a step below West Ham’s latest asking price, but it moves the negotiations from talk to paperwork.

[kylay]

Hadn't seen this on the last 3 pages so apologies if this is old news. Admittedly the rumor even states this one has some distance to go, but looks like a half credible approach for Guido. Will Tata Martino do us the favor of taking him off our hands?

https://www.fivestripefinal.com/p/trans ... dium=email

[Manuel]

Flamengo don't really have any money, that's the problem reading between the lines, low balling and wanting to spread the payments right out.

 

It's almost like someone sent them Sullivan's transfer manual. They're the richest clubbing Brazil, made about 70m from that World Club Cup sharade, and are just negotiating.

Give it time. My guess is we get about 35-38m in the end. 

Club needs to play hardball to stop others just fancying pastures new...."you can go, but we set the price".

 

 

It all seems a bit foggy but it sounds like we are hardballing. I stand corrected but it's unusual for Brazilian clubs to spend fairly large amounts for players? They are usually selling clubs.

[eusebiovic]

Flamengo don't really have any money, that's the problem reading between the lines, low balling and wanting to spread the payments right out.

 

 

That would be an obvious case of the player getting played then...

They must have Sullivans dog eared copy of "The Fine Art of the Football Transfer" from the publishing arm of the Kenneth Bates School of Economic Science from circa 1993

[stubbo-admin]

Flamengo don't really have any money, that's the problem reading between the lines, low balling and wanting to spread the payments right out.

 

 

It's almost like someone sent them Sullivan's transfer manual. They're the richest clubbing Brazil, made about 70m from that World Club Cup sharade, and are just negotiating.

Give it time. My guess is we get about 35-38m in the end. 

Club needs to play hardball to stop others just fancying pastures new...."you can go, but we set the price".

[eusebiovic]

Yeah at this point, if he's not going to play for us through injury, sulking, or not wanting to get injured and jeopardise his move, then what's the point in holding on to him? We've in essence already lost him but don't have any money for it. No doubt it's just become a point of 'winning or losing' against Flamenco for Sullivan and he's cutting his nose off to spite his face. But again what is the point in keeping a player who is that unhappy? To just say 'I won' one minute thing while it all crashes down around you and the club suffers?

It's pretty low the way Paqueta has gone about this, getting his mates and the other club's chairman involved but just cut your losses and move on. Thanks for that through ball now goodbye. He isn't producing quality enough to make him worth keeping.

I'm willing to bet he just gets sold right at the end of the window so Sullivan conveniently doesn't have to reinvest anything.

 

 

I think we're already being prepared for the eventuality of relegation. Paqueta hasn't created or scored enough since he's been here. Bruno G up at Newcastle was the outstanding Brazilian at Lyon. He's a proper player and as reliable as they come. 

[Manuel]

Flamengo don't really have any money, that's the problem reading between the lines, low balling and wanting to spread the payments right out.

[El Scorchio]

Yeah at this point, if he's not going to play for us through injury, sulking, or not wanting to get injured and jeopardise his move, then what's the point in holding on to him? We've in essence already lost him but don't have any money for it. No doubt it's just become a point of 'winning or losing' against Flamenco for Sullivan and he's cutting his nose off to spite his face. But again what is the point in keeping a player who is that unhappy? To just say 'I won' one minute thing while it all crashes down around you and the club suffers?

It's pretty low the way Paqueta has gone about this, getting his mates and the other club's chairman involved but just cut your losses and move on. Thanks for that through ball now goodbye. He isn't producing quality enough to make him worth keeping.

I'm willing to bet he just gets sold right at the end of the window so Sullivan conveniently doesn't have to reinvest anything.

[Tomshardware]

Nuno confirmed that Paqueta is NOT in the squad for Saturday.

Good, I'm even more optimistic about Saturdays game.

[El Scorchio]

If Burnley finish above us it will be because we finish 19th and not because they overtake us and another team.

Them finishing above us wouldn't relegate us

Not necessarily, unless you believe we've no hope of catching anyone. It's possible us them and Forest could be right together come April or May.

 

I think that if we have to worry about Burnley then we don't stand a chance of catching anyone above us... and it would also likely mean that they'd already have beaten us

Leaving aside the understandable scepticism as to whether JWP would improve them, if he did then that would increase the chances of them taking points from Forest, Palace, Leeds

We need to look up, not down

I think you've taken what was a tongue in cheek post a little too seriously, to be honest. 

But as we are discussing it they are only three points behind us. While unlikely, it's not beyond them to have a little run of form and they could easily get 4-5 points from their next four games, some of them at our expense. Wolves just picked up six from their last four. Dr Tottenham up next at home for Burnley, us at home, Palace and Sunderland away. Thus putting themselves right in it with us. If Forest and Palace continue to falter then you have a little group where anything can happen and two stay and two drop. Burnley's form and our form are two totally separate things. Us and they can both be on the heels of the pack- not just one of us. This is the season where you can be in poor form for a sustained time and then a little run of results shoots you up the table. 

[fraser]

Nuno confirmed that Paqueta is NOT in the squad for Saturday.

We need to sell and replace him then.. We're shit at both unfortunately 

[Manuel]

Nuno confirmed that Paqueta is NOT in the squad for Saturday.

[onsideman]

It would be so Sullivan for us to loan a player to a relegation rival, and so West Ham for him to then against all logic do something to keep them up at our expense. 

If Burnley finish above us it will be because we finish 19th and not because they overtake us and another team.

Them finishing above us wouldn't relegate us

Not necessarily, unless you believe we've no hope of catching anyone. It's possible us them and Forest could be right together come April or May.

 

 

I think that if we have to worry about Burnley then we don't stand a chance of catching anyone above us... and it would also likely mean that they'd already have beaten us

Leaving aside the understandable scepticism as to whether JWP would improve them, if he did then that would increase the chances of them taking points from Forest, Palace, Leeds

We need to look up, not down

[fraser]

It did in the previous seasons as Southampton Captain. It clearly had more to do at the Club with just him being Captain that saw them go down on a paltry 12 points. Not even Billy Bonds could prevent them from going down that season, they were abysmal.

I did say the other day it can never be down to just one player, unless it's the other way and it's Paqueta, but only when it suits you... Anyway JWP is shit and has only ever been a bang average one trick pony. 

[stubbo-admin]

Vickery on sky saying West Ham (nuno) reluctant to let him go although  the deal will be done.

Lamadrid is just a punt nothing more.

 

 

 

 

Assume this means Paqueta?

Normally I'd be against this, but in this instance with our squad being so devoid of quality and needing major surgery and the player in question having been woefully off form and his heart being elsewhere, I think this is probable a decent outcome for the Club.  Just have to hope they have a replacement lined up for January as we're short creatviely anyway, that we have funds left over afterwards to put towards an upgrade elsewhere (CB, Wing).

Ultimately, we're likely to go down.  Cashing in well on an underperforming star now is not terrible business, much as I love Paqueta and what he can do when on form.

His departure pretty much feels like the end of that Moyes era of relative success.