The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[WHU(Exeter)]

You could be right about the 5% thing Nutsin, might have to raise it a lot more, if the BOSS goes full circle and starts actively supporting Putin, instead of just appeasing him.

(What is it with that relationship? I would've thought the leader of the worlds biggest stupidpower would have Putin in his pocket, rather than the other way round)

Wonder what the % of our GDP was spent towards aiding the infant nation stupidpower in Iraq and Afghanistan 

Reckon we could get a refund?

[Nutsin]

Ends wars?
Russia / Ukraine
Israel / Palestine
Venezuela
Nigeria
Greenland (or is it Iceland?)
Iran

Peace at last! Ha ha 
All down to the Board of Peace featuring Trump Putin & Tony Blair
Irony is dead 

What a load of bollocks!

[Mr Anon]

It would appear Trumps hurty words are just too much for some.
As For the Mong who thinks if NATO collapses the European Gov’ts won’t have to pay 5% of their GDP for defense any more, I ask how you gonna defend yourself from Putin?

It’s like listening to a bunch of old housewives complain.

What a bunch of mincers!

Gotta laugh!

I'm sure a few hundred housewives have plenty to complain about considering their husbands didn't come home from a war Trump said they weren't asked for or needed in the first place 

Just as well Trump ends wars then isn’t it?

TDS in full effect, little quisling weasel 

[Fauxstralian]

Ends wars?
Russia / Ukraine
Israel / Palestine
Venezuela
Nigeria
Greenland (or is it Iceland?)
Iran

Peace at last! Ha ha 
All down to the Board of Peace featuring Trump Putin & Tony Blair
Irony is dead 

[Nutsin]

It would appear Trumps hurty words are just too much for some.
As For the Mong who thinks if NATO collapses the European Gov’ts won’t have to pay 5% of their GDP for defense any more, I ask how you gonna defend yourself from Putin?

It’s like listening to a bunch of old housewives complain.

What a bunch of mincers!

Gotta laugh!

I'm sure a few hundred housewives have plenty to complain about considering their husbands didn't come home from a war Trump said they weren't asked for or needed in the first place 

Just as well Trump ends wars then isn’t it?

[Mr Anon]

It would appear Trumps hurty words are just too much for some.
As For the Mong who thinks if NATO collapses the European Gov’ts won’t have to pay 5% of their GDP for defense any more, I ask how you gonna defend yourself from Putin?

It’s like listening to a bunch of old housewives complain.

What a bunch of mincers!

Gotta laugh!

I'm sure a few hundred housewives have plenty to complain about considering their husbands didn't come home from a war Trump said they weren't asked for or needed in the first place 

[Mr Anon]

 

Surface = Lord Haw-Haw

I stand corrected. The British Army is more than generously funded and equipped and its c.35,000 front-line troops are more than adequate for all tasks that our megalomaniac leaders set them.

I don't see anyone denying that, just your statement they weren't fighting on the front line.

[Nutsin]

It would appear Trumps hurty words are just too much for some.
As For the Mong who thinks if NATO collapses the European Gov’ts won’t have to pay 5% of their GDP for defense any more, I ask how you gonna defend yourself from Putin?

It’s like listening to a bunch of old housewives complain.

What a bunch of mincers!

Gotta laugh!

[dealcanvey]

Trumps latest comments regarding British troops in Afghanistan are completely insulting.

Even more so when he dodged multiple times himself. 

How anyone in the UK can give this man any credibility is beyond me. Mad world.  

[goose]

Then again he (like the leader of the Democrats also), has to appeal to core fanbase, and idiots must be a huge demographic, compared to other western democracies.

They definately over index on 'stupid' over there.

[threesixty]

some of you (you know who you are) would find an excuse for him even if he raped your kids.

You need psychiatric help. And a fucking spine.

 

[WHU(Exeter)]

If NATO countries are no longer needed, would that mean that the 5% GDP on defense figure can now be ignored?

Because all that's ever mentioned in relation to that figure, is the Ukraine, with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan conveniently forgotten about.  

Also, I'm hopeless at maths, but from figures available in most searches, (which I accept might not be accurate), it would suggest that the UK lost more soldiers % wise in Afghanistan than the US.

Which makes his comment even more deeply offensive.

Then again he (like the leader of the Democrats also), has to appeal to core fanbase, and idiots must be a huge demographic, compared to other western democracies.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

fuck me, you really going to defend that cսnt over that statement, all this "what he meant was" hand wringing is sickening 

I think you have this the wrong way round. It's you that's guessing what he meant. I'm simply repeating what he actually said. Which was that Britain avoided the front line in Afghanistan. Factually true. And not a criticism of British troops.

Surface = Lord Haw-Haw

I stand corrected. The British Army is more than generously funded and equipped and its c.35,000 front-line troops are more than adequate for all tasks that our megalomaniac leaders set them.

[Mr Anon]

Good news for fellow NATO countries, that their forces will no longer be required to join in various future US fuck ups across the globe.

 

That was a cunty thing for Trump to say considering British lives were lost fighting alongside his forces and he needs to give his head a wobble. 

What I find astonishing is the pricks in power at Westminster jumping to the defence of the UK armed forces while human rights lawyers with government support are trying to convict British military veterans for their role in Northern Ireland. 

Trump’s a fat cսnt who showed zero respect and is ungrateful , but our insidious government are the lowest form of pond life. 

I know, certain hard of thinking individuals on here believe you can't possibly think the governments on both sides of the Atlantic are odious, you must absolutely pick a side, I mentioned this a while back and got accused of "fence sitting" They treat it like its some sort of fucking football rivalry 

[Pub Bigot]

Good news for fellow NATO countries, that their forces will no longer be required to join in various future US fuck ups across the globe.

 

That was a cunty thing for Trump to say considering British lives were lost fighting alongside his forces and he needs to give his head a wobble. 

What I find astonishing is the pricks in power at Westminster jumping to the defence of the UK armed forces while human rights lawyers with government support are trying to convict British military veterans for their role in Northern Ireland. 

Trump’s a fat cսnt who showed zero respect and is ungrateful , but our insidious government are the lowest form of pond life. 

[WHU(Exeter)]

Good news for fellow NATO countries, that their forces will no longer be required to join in various future US fuck ups across the globe.

[Fauxstralian]

Trump is the first President in living memory who hasn’t put his investments into a blind trust to avoid any accusations of decisions made to benefit him financially 
The assets are managed by Don Jr & Eric Trump

Trump announces tariffs on Europe for not agreeing to him invading Greenland - market drops
Trump TACOS on the tariffs - market rises 
Wonder what Don Jr & Eric were doing in the market this week?

[,]

Sixty years ago I read Joseph Heller’s Catch 22. As a satire on WW2 it was excellent entertainment. What brought back this memory was seeing a clip of Jared Kushner, with pictures of a rubble strewn Gaza overlaid with high rise condos, talking about the benefits peace would bring to the region.

What shocks me is how blatant the Trump family are about making money. The Don will surely be the President who most enhanced his wealth during his term of office.

[Hammer I am]

Love the Irony of Donald "Bonespur" Trump suggesting others avoided fighting

[Hammer I am]

 

British troops performed badly in both Iraq and Afghanistan, not because the troops were anything less than brave and utterly professional, but because they were criminally ill-equipped by Blair, Brown and Cameron. Furthermore the military leaders lacked the stones to admit this. This was well-documented at the time.

Trump's word are a criticism of the uselessness of their leaders and the leaders of other NATO nations and their continuing failure to properly fund the armed forces, not the troops.

fuck me, you really going to defend that cսnt over that statement, all this "what he meant was" hand wringing is sickening 

I think you have this the wrong way round. It's you that's guessing what he meant. I'm simply repeating what he actually said. Which was that Britain avoided the front line in Afghanistan. Factually true. And not a criticism of British troops.

Surface = Lord Haw-Haw

[WHU(Exeter)]

I’m surprised Assad hasn’t been sent an invite.

Scratch that though, as the Yanks have now put their weight fully behind the new leader in Syria and thrown their Kurdish ‘allies’ under the bus this week, with ISIS held prisoners escaping in the process.

Maybe the Kurds should’ve been on the front line a bit more?

[Fauxstralian]

So the 5 time draft dodging coward is questioning the bravery of British troops?

I see Trumps Board of Peace includes himself, Putin & Blair
Irony is officially DEAD 

[goose]

Exactly. Places like Sangin, Musa Qala, Lashkar Gah saw probably the fiercest and most amount of fighting in the campaign. If that doesn’t constitute being on the frontline then I don’t know what does. 

[Mr Anon]

 

British troops performed badly in both Iraq and Afghanistan, not because the troops were anything less than brave and utterly professional, but because they were criminally ill-equipped by Blair, Brown and Cameron. Furthermore the military leaders lacked the stones to admit this. This was well-documented at the time.

Trump's word are a criticism of the uselessness of their leaders and the leaders of other NATO nations and their continuing failure to properly fund the armed forces, not the troops.

fuck me, you really going to defend that cսnt over that statement, all this "what he meant was" hand wringing is sickening 

I think you have this the wrong way round. It's you that's guessing what he meant. I'm simply repeating what he actually said. Which was that Britain avoided the front line in Afghanistan. Factually true. And not a criticism of British troops.

1) they were deployed in the Helmand province, about as dangerous as it got there, 2) US had overall top level command of all coalition troops in Afghanistan and Iraq so if it were marginally true what you and the moron in the Whitehouse was saying then blame the US commanders

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Over 450 British, not to mention other nations, troops dying because of NATO’s  Article 5 in Afghanistan after 9/11. Yet the dementia ridden man-child appears to think that the nations that stood side by side with American troops weren’t on the ‘front line’, as the septics obviously were.
The cսnt’s fucking deluded, and I truly wish that for the memory of our, and other nations fallen, he dies a lingering death.
The cսnt has finally shown his true colour.

 

British troops performed badly in both Iraq and Afghanistan, not because the troops were anything less than brave and utterly professional, but because they were criminally ill-equipped by Blair, Brown and Cameron. Furthermore the military leaders lacked the stones to admit this. This was well-documented at the time.

Trump's word are a criticism of the uselessness of their leaders and the leaders of other NATO nations and their continuing failure to properly fund the armed forces, not the troops.

fuck me, you really going to defend that cսnt over that statement, all this "what he meant was" hand wringing is sickening 

I think you have this the wrong way round. It's you that's guessing what he meant. I'm simply repeating what he actually said. Which was that Britain avoided the front line in Afghanistan. Factually true. And not a criticism of British troops.