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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:13That’s the Atlanta Fed forecast, they forecast 5.4- 5.6%. They have the reputation of having the best model for this. Those that know this follow it, markets and investors pay attention to this. It matters a whole lot more than your silly backward looking data points.
The mere fact that you don’t understand that it’s what’s in front of us that counts says it all.
Once again you are proving just how little you understand economics and markets.
It’s below GCSE grade. Did you graduate high school?
LEI is the most widely used tool for forward projection, shall we talk about that?
“High school”
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Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:08What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant!
So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden.
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.
And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?
Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.
And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?
Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser
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That’s the Atlanta Fed forecast, they forecast 5.4- 5.6%. They have the reputation of having the best model for this. Those that know this follow it, markets and investors pay attention to this. It matters a whole lot more than your silly backward looking data points.
The mere fact that you don’t understand that it’s what’s in front of us that counts says it all.
Once again you are proving just how little you understand economics and markets.
It’s below GCSE grade. Did you graduate high school?
The mere fact that you don’t understand that it’s what’s in front of us that counts says it all.
Once again you are proving just how little you understand economics and markets.
It’s below GCSE grade. Did you graduate high school?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:59Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:56goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:53Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.
Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.
The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.
slower growth than Biden. What a golden age![]()
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What a load of bollocks!Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?
What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant!
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:56goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:53Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:31I say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.
my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.
I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer.Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.
Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.
The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.
slower growth than Biden. What a golden age![]()
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What a load of bollocks!
Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?
whats the full year 2025 GDP?
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5% GDP
no wonder you failed that GCSE
no wonder you failed that GCSE
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:53Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:31goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 08:06We? No just you.
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.
You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.
Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every dayI say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.
my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.
I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer.Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.
Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.
The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.
slower growth than Biden. What a golden age![]()
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What a load of bollocks!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:31goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 08:06Nutsin wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 22:58I think we all know it happened.
Amazing that you still have the Nads to come on here and talk economics when you obviously don’t understand what is happening. All you can do is read a report, without any basic understanding of what it means. A bit like a six year old.
But thanks for the laugh!We? No just you.
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.
You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.
Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every dayI say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.
my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.
I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer.
Your track record is worshipping a makeup wearing abuser of woman and posting random links from Facebook which are quite often proven to be complete nonsense.
Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.
The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.
slower growth than Biden. What a golden age
Every data point & fact you are presented you hide behind “liberal myth” and your failed GCSE business studies.
The ‘golden age’ you talk of is actually a worse jobs market than Biden, a higher national debt and faster acceleration of debt, lower manufacturing jobs and output, and most importantly slower gdp growth than 2023 and 2024 under Biden.
slower growth than Biden. What a golden age
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Hello Mrs. Jones" wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 05:00 Nutjob. Is there nothing the retard in the Whire House can do or say that you would criticize? Y
Hello Jones, you again.
I don’t get caught up in the lefts constant theatrics about Trump. We all know the left are gonna throw their toys out of their pram every chance they get. So Iignore their bullshit, perhaps you’d be better served if you did too.
Here’s what I do pay attention to.
A secure border. Something Biden couldn’t do, Was he rally that useless?
Crime rates plummeting and Drug overdoses plummeting too. Wonder why that is? Could it be Trumps policies perhaps?
Massive fraud being used to fund Democratics campaigns, see Minnesotta.
Irans nuclear program being obliterated.
Maduro and his hateful regime being decapitated, the Venezuelans like that too.
The end of Wokism , no more men in women’s sports, tax cuts, less regulation, 5% GDP, cheaper oil, gasoline prices, the ending of 8 wars, the Abraham accords and a better model for the Middle East, much better than any Democrat has ever offered. America first and common sense policy on Immigration. A fully funded military and peace rough strength. A fully funded NATO and a better protected Arctic circle.The fall of the evil Iranian regime and the end of Communist Cuba. I could go on.
So what’s your point?
I don’t get caught up in the lefts constant theatrics about Trump. We all know the left are gonna throw their toys out of their pram every chance they get. So Iignore their bullshit, perhaps you’d be better served if you did too.
Here’s what I do pay attention to.
A secure border. Something Biden couldn’t do, Was he rally that useless?
Crime rates plummeting and Drug overdoses plummeting too. Wonder why that is? Could it be Trumps policies perhaps?
Massive fraud being used to fund Democratics campaigns, see Minnesotta.
Irans nuclear program being obliterated.
Maduro and his hateful regime being decapitated, the Venezuelans like that too.
The end of Wokism , no more men in women’s sports, tax cuts, less regulation, 5% GDP, cheaper oil, gasoline prices, the ending of 8 wars, the Abraham accords and a better model for the Middle East, much better than any Democrat has ever offered. America first and common sense policy on Immigration. A fully funded military and peace rough strength. A fully funded NATO and a better protected Arctic circle.The fall of the evil Iranian regime and the end of Communist Cuba. I could go on.
So what’s your point?
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add libtards to that, fancy being threatened by a bunch of mungbean eating, low iron, bluehaired fops
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goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 08:06Nutsin wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 22:58I think we all know it happened.
Amazing that you still have the Nads to come on here and talk economics when you obviously don’t understand what is happening. All you can do is read a report, without any basic understanding of what it means. A bit like a six year old.
But thanks for the laugh!We? No just you.
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.
You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.
Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every day
I say we because we all witnessed it. FACT!
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.
my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.
I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer.
You continually pick out negative data points that are minor details and present them like they are a bigger issue than they are.
In one breath you are playing the long game regarding Stagflation LOL. In the other you point out lagging data as disastrous such as manufacturing output. Nobody is thick enough to not understand that Jobs and manufacturing output follows Capex, except you.
my track record speaks for itself, I’ve been dead right, while you’ve been proven to be nothing but wrong, which will continue by the way.
I’d like to say you amuse me but you constantly blowing up every thread chasing Joyo around with your childish, retarded abuse is far from entertaining. You’re just a shit bully with fuck all to offer.
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Fauxstralian wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 10:56 The rise of Nigel has been good as it’s outed all the Tories who thought their party didn’t goose step enough
A bit like how Trump has rallied the inner fascist of Republicans
A bit like how Trump has rallied the inner fascist wealth creators of Republicans .
There. Adjusted it to align more with the reality of the world we all live in, not your sixth-form debating forum ideal world,
There. Adjusted it to align more with the reality of the world we all live in, not your sixth-form debating forum ideal world,
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The rise of Nigel has been good as it’s outed all the Tories who thought their party didn’t goose step enough
A bit like how Trump has rallied the inner fascist of Republicans
A bit like how Trump has rallied the inner fascist of Republicans
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 00:36Hammer I am" wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 19:43SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 18:58He actually attacked the countries, not the troops. Here's the full quote. Only a Grade 1 TDS sufferer would claim he is attacking the actual soldiers.
"We’ve never needed them (Nato member countries). We have never really asked anything of them. They’ll say they sent some troops to Afghanistan, or this or that, and they did, they stayed a little back, a little off the front lines."Being Nutsin's little sidekick has rotted your brain, those are the points everyone has already countered. Ok perhaps you can counter in your own worlds in bold how US didn't ask for assistance by triggering article 5, and how NATO troops were hiding behind American soldiers by being posted in Helmand province etc. feel free to change the subject as usual thoughWhat the fuck are you talking about, you illiterate oaf. It's there in black and white. The actual words, not your interpretation of a TDS summary you read in the Mirror.
And NATO doesn't operate in Asia, you utter numb-nuts. The clue is in the name.
Afghanistan was literally a NATO operation under article 5 which is a fact.
Splitting hairs over names does not change that fact.
Might I suggest you look up "cognitive dissonance"?
You are not doing youself any favours here and you are either deluding yourself or are a total idiot if you actually believe what you have written.
Splitting hairs over names does not change that fact.
Might I suggest you look up "cognitive dissonance"?
You are not doing youself any favours here and you are either deluding yourself or are a total idiot if you actually believe what you have written.
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I see Andy Burnham has til 5pm to decide if he will put his name up for pre-selection for the Manchester seat that will have a by-election
Word is that Starmer will stack the board deciding the candidate to keep him out as he knows as an MP he’d rally support to overthrow the gibbering dismal PM when the May elections go pear shaped
Another step towards a Reform government under Nazi Nigel
Word is that Starmer will stack the board deciding the candidate to keep him out as he knows as an MP he’d rally support to overthrow the gibbering dismal PM when the May elections go pear shaped
Another step towards a Reform government under Nazi Nigel
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Hammer I am
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How Surface thinks NATO works.
"Curses, China has attacked France"
"Well shame we can't attack them back, they're not situated in the North Atlantic, the clue is in the name you see"
*Sits back and waits for the Canary Islands to make their move on the US
What a lemon
"Curses, China has attacked France"
"Well shame we can't attack them back, they're not situated in the North Atlantic, the clue is in the name you see"
*Sits back and waits for the Canary Islands to make their move on the US
What a lemon
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 00:36Hammer I am" wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 19:43SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 18:58He actually attacked the countries, not the troops. Here's the full quote. Only a Grade 1 TDS sufferer would claim he is attacking the actual soldiers.
"We’ve never needed them (Nato member countries). We have never really asked anything of them. They’ll say they sent some troops to Afghanistan, or this or that, and they did, they stayed a little back, a little off the front lines."Being Nutsin's little sidekick has rotted your brain, those are the points everyone has already countered. Ok perhaps you can counter in your own worlds in bold how US didn't ask for assistance by triggering article 5, and how NATO troops were hiding behind American soldiers by being posted in Helmand province etc. feel free to change the subject as usual thoughWhat the fuck are you talking about, you illiterate oaf. It's there in black and white. The actual words, not your interpretation of a TDS summary you read in the Mirror.
And NATO doesn't operate in Asia, you utter numb-nuts. The clue is in the name.
"And NATO doesn't operate in Asia, you utter numb-nuts. The clue is in the name."
Confidently wrong again surface, all would have gone to Afghanistan in solidarity anyway I imagine (like Aus did), but NATO members were triggered under article 5.
Confidently wrong again surface, all would have gone to Afghanistan in solidarity anyway I imagine (like Aus did), but NATO members were triggered under article 5.
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Fauxstralian wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 08:09 Donald Trump dodged the draft 5 times mostly by his father paying a doctor to say his ‘bone spurs’ made him unfit for service
Should have used early onset dementia as a more likely excuse
Where are those Epstein files by the way?
Impeach the paedo
He went on and on about those files for months, then when Trump said it's all a hoax he went a bit quiet on it all. Don't know if its true or not but there's talk of an unredacted document with talk of a 13 yead old, abortrion, and Trump. Sounds suspicially explosive but its exactly the type of thing Nutsin would believe if it came from his Q-Anon cult buddies about a dem, like pizzagate etc
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 00:36Hammer I am" wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 19:43SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 18:58He actually attacked the countries, not the troops. Here's the full quote. Only a Grade 1 TDS sufferer would claim he is attacking the actual soldiers.
"We’ve never needed them (Nato member countries). We have never really asked anything of them. They’ll say they sent some troops to Afghanistan, or this or that, and they did, they stayed a little back, a little off the front lines."Being Nutsin's little sidekick has rotted your brain, those are the points everyone has already countered. Ok perhaps you can counter in your own worlds in bold how US didn't ask for assistance by triggering article 5, and how NATO troops were hiding behind American soldiers by being posted in Helmand province etc. feel free to change the subject as usual thoughWhat the fuck are you talking about, you illiterate oaf. It's there in black and white. The actual words, not your interpretation of a TDS summary you read in the Mirror.
And NATO doesn't operate in Asia, you utter numb-nuts. The clue is in the name.
Not sure what's going on with you, but you're making Nutsin look like a genius at this point, yes its in black and white, we can all read, Trump stating US didn't ask anything of her allies and they stood a little off the front lines.
And NATO will operate anywhere in the world if that's where the country that attacked a NATO member is situated, like AFGHANISTAN. you're going senile mate, go and have a lie down
And NATO will operate anywhere in the world if that's where the country that attacked a NATO member is situated, like AFGHANISTAN. you're going senile mate, go and have a lie down
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Donald Trump dodged the draft 5 times mostly by his father paying a doctor to say his ‘bone spurs’ made him unfit for service
Should have used early onset dementia as a more likely excuse
Where are those Epstein files by the way?
Impeach the paedo
Should have used early onset dementia as a more likely excuse
Where are those Epstein files by the way?
Impeach the paedo
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Nutsin wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026, 22:58I think we all know it happened.
Amazing that you still have the Nads to come on here and talk economics when you obviously don’t understand what is happening. All you can do is read a report, without any basic understanding of what it means. A bit like a six year old.
But thanks for the laugh!
We? No just you.
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.
You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.
Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every day
You get presented with clear data & facts from your own government or renowned experts, your response is always ‘liberal myth’ or GCSE business studies. Although I’m reasonably certain you failed it.
You don’t have a point, you just post random links from Facebook.
Like I said, you’re 60 years old, still working and you have some desperate need for validation of your life from anonymous strangers. Your (late) midlife crisis brings me amusement every day
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Nutsin you actively support a proven sexual abuser of woman on here every day.
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the 'nut job in the white hoose' is just area cleaning .
Pocketing the odd b&h fag butt along the way
Pocketing the odd b&h fag butt along the way