World War II Question

[zico]

Been watching quite a lot of stuff recently such as Nuremberg, The Rise and Fall of Hitler documentary on Netflix and several podcasts with various war historians and it becomes more apparent with everything I watch that there were so many twists of fate that led to Hitler's rise to power, not to mention the numerous opportunities to stop him.

One question nags me though and I can't really find an answer, probably because it's totally hypothetical, but if the USA had entered the war in 1939 would it have been all over and done with in a couple of years or could it have been more devastating considering in those early days the Soviet Union had a pact with Germany so if the Americans had entered earlier could the Allies have ended up fighting the Soviets as well if they had stayed as an ally of Germany?

[Westham67]

Every country has prisons for a reason because human beings break laws. The saying all is fair in love and war is true. You cannot apply laws to either because we are human beings. We all have different emotions at different times, different personalities, religious beliefs, political beliefs, nationalism and race ect

What war has gone without crimes throughout history? Recently, Afghanistan, the Taliban, and the Allied forces, Iraq and Syria, ISIS armed militia, and the Allied forces, Hamas attack on Isreal, the IDF killed 70,000 people in Gaza, and Russia's invasion of Ukraine

War is the polar opposite of civilised, 

 

[BRANDED]

In Vietnam

By the time the United States ended its Southeast Asian bombing campaigns, the total tonnage of ordnance dropped approximately tripled the totals for World War II. The Indochinese bombings amounted to 7,662,000 tons of explosives, compared to 2,150,000 tons in the world conflict.^[4]

[BRANDED]

“During the air campaign, conventional weapons including explosives, incendiary bombs, and napalm destroyed nearly all of North Korea’s villages, towns, and cities, including an estimated 85 percent of its buildings.^[2] The U.S. dropped 635,000 tons of bombs and 32,557 tons of napalm during the war, mostly on North Korea (compared to 503,000 tons in the entire Pacific theater in World War II).^[3]”

[Fauxstralian]

Not sure the relevance of the energy situation in Western Australia is to the legacy of Thatcher given the utter shitshow as regards UK electricity & water supply 
Luckily you have a proper government & in WA will never see a Conservative one again
Or are you a Basil Zempilas supporter? Ha ha ha 

[Mike Oxsaw]

U turn on chagos bill. Germany investing €1 trillion in defence. EU smelling the coffee.

thanks Trump. 

Germany also talking about repatriating the gold they have deposited in New York...if it still actually exists, that is.

[BerlingtonBertie]

But I live in WA Sven unlike you.
Still have my Synergy rebate…so free leccie for me.
Didn't you lose your Australian residency?

[Mr Anon]

 If Goring was a  war criminal then so  was  bomber Harris 

If those two were so was Truman. A grey area if indiscriminate bombing is intentionally targeting civilians, or just obscene collateral 

[BRANDED]

U turn on chagos bill. Germany investing €1 trillion in defence. EU smelling the coffee.

thanks Trump. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

More relevant is the UK currently giving away Diego Garcia to some jungle bunnies. Weak as piss. Thatcher turning in her grave with Lord Teb


 

 

 

Seems that the "Peace Dividend", so beloved of left/liberal-leaning politicians, academics and civil servants is nothing but a short-term loan from a conglomerate of War Sharks.

Payback date's approaching but we won't find out exactly when it is until after the due date and "recovery operations" have begun.

Appears that those claiming to be ITK on these things are nothing of the sort.

[Fauxstralian]

Thatcher gave away most social housing , utilities, manufacturing & the coal industry so she’d be right at home 
Mad bitch whose legacy is your power bills & shit filled rivers 

[BerlingtonBertie]

More relevant is the UK currently giving away Diego Garcia to some jungle bunnies. Weak as piss. Thatcher turning in her grave with Lord Teb
 

[Hammer I am]

To the victors lay the spoils.

 And the  narrative that follows.



 

Care to give us, what you believe, is the real narative about this, you complete cսnt?

Not sure what your point is?

And not sure why he is a complete cսnt?

The comment made was correct. The winners of a war control the narrative. For example, had Germany won the way its very unlikely that photo would've ever been developed and shown to the world. So it proves the comment correct. 

That's not been true for centuries, modern technology, journalism, and the speed at which things travel make it almost impossible to fully control a narrative, it's one of the most overused out of date cliches that comes up with stuff like this

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

 If Goring was a  war criminal then so  was  bomber Harris 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Martin made it out of Berlin ...
 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

 

 

Hmmm. I'm not sure that theory always applies. Let's take the bombing of Dresden, the annexation of Tibet and 'the Troubles' as our examples.

Dresden was a war crime if any was...but the German civvies had it coming ..right?
Nah not for me.
Same for German woman and kids being raped on mass by the reds...oh yea ..but they were our allies then...so that's okay.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Notagooner, just in case it has escaped your attention Chamberlain took us into WW2.

As for bringing in the politics of today I make no apologies for that because whatever went on in the past has a lesson for the now and the future.

Actually, Chamberlain tried everything to avoid entering WW2 until Hitler invaded Poland and triggered a treaty obligation that no country that wished to hold onto its Empire could ignore.

 Neville Chamberlain is an ALPHA compared to any of these modern day cowboys.
And that's not a compliment to Numpty Neville 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

 

 

Hmmm. I'm not sure that theory always applies. Let's take the bombing of Dresden, the annexation of Tibet and 'the Troubles' as our examples.

All pick an mix... innit
 regarding the troubles...crack on ?

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

 

The comment made was correct. The winners of a war control the narrative. For example, had Germany won the way its very unlikely that photo would've ever been developed and shown to the world. So it proves the comment correct. 
 

Hmmm. I'm not sure that theory always applies. Let's take the bombing of Dresden, the annexation of Tibet and 'the Troubles' as our examples.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Notagooner, just in case it has escaped your attention Chamberlain took us into WW2.

As for bringing in the politics of today I make no apologies for that because whatever went on in the past has a lesson for the now and the future.

Actually, Chamberlain tried everything to avoid entering WW2 until Hitler invaded Poland and triggered a treaty obligation that no country that wished to hold onto its Empire could ignore.

[Westham67]

The Japanese really screwed things up. The intent was that they attack Russia from the east. I don't believe Russia could have sustained a 2 front war. I guess with Pearl Harbour they underestimated the US. Remember Germany then declared war on the US and not the other way round. 

Japan were at war with China from 1937 to 1945. When they attacked Pearl Harbour, after the US declared war on Japan. Stalin took his troops from the East to fight the Germans in the West. As you posted, the Japs did underestimate the US

[Swiss.]

The Japanese really screwed things up. The intent was that they attack Russia from the east. I don't believe Russia could have sustained a 2 front war. I guess with Pearl Harbour they underestimated the US. Remember Germany then declared war on the US and not the other way round. 

[Westham67]

The Battle of Britain was won by the RAF. The Nazis required air supremacy to launch a seaborne invasion and an airborne invasion of Britain

Was won by the RAF thanks to the Poles. 

Who were part of the RAF. There were many pilots from subjugated countries who fought in the Battle of Britain

[Council Scum]

The Battle of Britain was won by the RAF. The Nazis required air supremacy to launch a seaborne invasion and an airborne invasion of Britain

Was won by the RAF thanks to the Poles. 

[Westham67]

The original SAS, the long-range desert was formed to knock out enemy aircraft, fuel and anything that got in their way behind enemy lines

[Russ of the BML]

To the victors lay the spoils.

 And the  narrative that follows.


 

Care to give us, what you believe, is the real narative about this, you complete cսnt?

Not sure what your point is?

And not sure why he is a complete cսnt?

The comment made was correct. The winners of a war control the narrative. For example, had Germany won the way its very unlikely that photo would've ever been developed and shown to the world. So it proves the comment correct.