West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

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Since Christmas we have conceded another ten goals in six league games thus our deplorable defending more or less continues. And judging by this window continues unaddressed. 

We remain the third most likely team to go down.

How costly might that home defeat to Forest turn out to be?

[Fortunes Hiding]

Well Billy, there’s me getting worried !

nothing to see here. 

[Billy Blagg]

I've never thought we would go down at any stage. I only half-jokingly said at New Year when we reached 14 points, that '10 wins and we'll stay up'. People laughed, but we've had two before the end of January. There's always an assumption when a team is doing well or badly that it will continue because, well, why shouldn't it? But it rarely works out that way. At the bottom, the bigger teams suddenly find a second wind, while at the top those overachieving fall away. I wouldn't put my non-existent mortagage on it, of course, but I've seen us do this so many times before that I think we're actually really good at avoiding relegation.

[Westham67]

Loaning JWP to another club fighting relegation is Sullivan's MO. He would not spend 1p to make a pound.

We are cut adrift by five points, between 18th and 12th, five points

The business done in this window will be decisive. Add a cup, run it's going to be a nail-biting four months

[Manuel]

FWIW

On the predictor I have us staying up on 38 Pts & Crystal Palace going down with 33 Pts

Chelsea L
Burnley W
Man U L
Bournemouth W
Liverpool L
Fulham D
Man C L
Villa L
Wolves w
Palace D
Everton D
Brentford D
Arsenal L
Newcastle D
Leeds W

That run of Wolves, Palace, Everton then Brentford could be what defines the season.

It does give you some hope and I do believe that for whatever reason we have turned a bit of a corner, but what worries me is that Leeds and Forest continue to pick up points, particularly Leeds.

[Mad Ferret]

FWIW

On the predictor I have us staying up on 38 Pts & Crystal Palace going down with 33 Pts

Chelsea L
Burnley W
Man U L
Bournemouth W
Liverpool L
Fulham D
Man C L
Villa L
Wolves w
Palace D
Everton D
Brentford D
Arsenal L
Newcastle D
Leeds W

You've miscalculated. Those results would take us to 37 points.

But looking at the fixtures, does make you realise how many winnable games are still to come.

That run of Wolves, Palace, Everton then Brentford could be what defines the season.

[Vexed]

FWIW

On the predictor I have us staying up on 38 Pts & Crystal Palace going down with 33 Pts

Chelsea L
Burnley W
Man U L
Bournemouth W
Liverpool L
Fulham D
Man C L
Villa L
Wolves w
Palace D
Everton D
Brentford D
Arsenal L
Newcastle D
Leeds W

Palace to get only five points from their next fifteen?! I bet three of them are against us. Can't see them being that bad.

Leeds are still the ones for me, we need to make up four points on them (maybe three if we sort our GD) in the next fourteen games and then do them on the last day of the season. This is probably our best chance. 

[anotherbrickinthewall]

FWIW

On the predictor I have us staying up on 38 Pts & Crystal Palace going down with 33 Pts

Chelsea L
Burnley W
Man U L
Bournemouth W
Liverpool L
Fulham D
Man C L
Villa L
Wolves w
Palace D
Everton D
Brentford D
Arsenal L
Newcastle D
Leeds W

[Westham67]

Forrest is trying to buy Wolves keeper Sa

[Sir Alf]

Wots rong wiv mi spelleng? 

As the site misery and curmudgeon, I see it as my duty to spread hopelessness and despair relating to West Ham. Im saving many from themselves especially those addicted to hope.

Im delighted when proved wrong ( last 2 weeks ) but really think the xmas period sealed our fate. The transfer window these last 3 weeks seems to equate to a “fat lady getting ready to sing”.  

[Chip Shop Charlie]

I predicted we'd beat Sunderland btw, before being accused of going all Sir Alf.

 

 

 

Not quite Sir Alf....your spelling is better

[Westham67]

Victor, the Forrest  Keeper, is out for the rest of the season with a knee injury

[Westham67]

I had us for Spurs and Sunderland wins, and by nothing other than a lucky guess, I got the Sunderland score right

Our last six-game form is the same as Chelsea's. The omens are all there for a West Ham win

 

[Mad Ferret]

It's annoying that others have found some form around the same time as us.

But ultimately, if we keep winning games, we'll stay up.

Think we'll get turned over at Chelsea though 

[Fortunes Hiding]

6-4 odds imply that we’re 40 % likely to stay up. 

at the moment I think we have less than a 40% chance, but this weekend could change everything if we get a point.  

Before our two wins, we would have been 9-1 to stay up. 

[95 North - Let Yourself Go]

Just stuck a tenner on us to stay up - we are 6/4 on Bet365! Crystal Palace to get sucked in and hopefully Spurs.

[Manuel]

I have a feeling we might just do that 67.
I do love the Chelsea away fixture, looking forward to it. 

If your predictions were always correct we'd win the league and cup double every season, Mex fella.

[Manuel]

It's probably fair comment that we appear to be catching them at a good time, but, and yes football fans are fickle, last month this board was predicting we'd lose to the likes of Fulham, Forest, Wolves etc, but now we're going to win at Chelsea? You never know, but let's keep it real, it's pretty unlikely.

I predicted we'd beat Sunderland btw, before being accused of going all Sir Alf.

[Dick Shaftsbury]

I mean, we usually get fuck all there. But factor in their fixtures, the new manager, and the unrest around Cole Palmer, we could get something. 

[Westham67]

We have a chance of winning their fixture list; we play them between Napoli away and Arsenal in the EFL semi-final, and their new manager is another Moyes

[Mex Martillo]

I have a feeling we might just do that 67.
I do love the Chelsea away fixture, looking forward to it. 

[Westham67]

Getting something at Chelsea this weekend  would strengthen our great escape campaign 

Leeds v Arsenal 

Wolves v Bournemouth

Forrest v Palace

Spurs v City

[Eerie Decent]

I don't necessarily disagree, Rossal. I'd love us to be a club who identifies these managers that pop out of nowhere, but if we sacked him, it'd be more of the same.

Funny enough, if we somehow manage to stay up, I reckon he'd turn us into a top half team.

[Rossal]

Love the positivity. Of course hope you're all right. 

Just not seeing it myself, and we've got to play all of the top 6 teams in the league. So many variables are different compared to in the past for me, and the teams we've overtaken in the past have been proper pony, I don't see anyone like that who are just above us. But let's hope I'm very wrong on that.

 

When we were shit you were optimistic and wanted to give Nuno more time etc...... now we've won 3 in a row and looking the best all season you've gone full circle! 

 

When he very first came in, I wasn't calling for him to be sacked after 3 games, no. And I'm not now, to be honest. I always at least try to be optimistic, especially when managers first come in, and back then there was time to pull it around. I thought as well, given the situation, he was probably the best bet in terms of who our owner would employ, or at least on paper.

However, to then go into the Fulham game at home, absolute pivotal game, and play 4 centre mids with no striker, it done for us. That was the moment I was convinced we are going down, and the next 3 games that followed sealed it. In my opinion.

For the record, none of the things we do/have done as a club would be what I would do, but I try to judge everything on it's merits. I don't try to score points just by being negative all the time, or positive all the time, like some do, just for the sake of it.

As I say, desperate to be wrong on this one, let's hope so.

The Brentford and Leeds experiment will be just as much to blame as the 1 point from 12 if we were to go down in my opinion. There was justification for us to bin him after Leeds, and who knows we may have more points now. 

But i hear you regarding the other points, and yes lets hope you are wrong and we somehow shithouse our way out it. It feel like as soon as we consign ourselves to the championship the next few games then give us the most hope of staying up. 

[Eerie Decent]

A team that had our best keeper for 20 years in goal, a strong defence, the current best midfielder in the Premier League protecting them. We currently have the brainless AWB, Mavro, Todibo who can't head the football, and 2 young left backs.

Then why were we so shit over the first 23 games?

You can't have it all ways

Europe?

I wanted Moyes sacked that season, btw, as I thought he was under performing with the players at his disposal. That squad was much better than the current one.